Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

[tdogg2k]

It was goku black.....

 

[CJMcfly26]

Actually it was the Ginyu Force

 

[s-blaze]

Future Goten

 

[tr1ll]

*walks in late*

It's just bad writing man. They do the same thing over and over and over.

How b? You been watching this **** 20 years and still thought there was a little bit of a chance it might turn out differently...but the writing is bad?

Goku such a scum bag for not thinking of Chi-Chi at all to trigger UI

She bad and she deserve better

Petty.

I mean Vageta Vageta-ed. This what he does..talk **** and get his *** whooped. This is your idol. Yea, he’s badass but he’s not THAT badass.

We all knew it was coming. We just watch it because it looks cool.

 

[goldmember]

YOU DAMN RIGHT!!!

They are the ones who sit in a room and predestinate the fate of these characters...

I challenge you, give me one TANGIBLE reason Kakarot was not only able to obtain UI, but "master" it during this TOP, while Vegeta, who was an equal outside of being the main character didn't sniff it.

If all you've got is "Goku knows his body", and "Goku is more naturally gifted", then you're full of it.

They underwent the SAME TRAINING, and Vegeta took his SSB even further, Kakarot just had the writ... er, uh, Kaioken in his back pocket.


Look... this is the Goku show, and we all know it, but if you know that and still feel the need to slander Vegeta, you're wild LAME son, word up.

Ummm.. First of all Goku is a fighting genius and how do you dismissed the " natural born talent " when Vegeta himself said that about goku in Buu saga

The reason he won't "sniff " UI (YET) is because of who they are as a character. As Whis pointed out, Vegeta tends overthink stuff compared to goku. His attitude (at this time) when fighting isn't built for UI

More so, go back a few episodes ago when Jiren said to him " Your fists are arrogant, there isnt a speck of purity in self-righteous way you fight "

Vegeta replied with " I am arrogant and a prideful saiyan, i can never throw away who i am ", " Kakarot can have his UI ", " I'll beat you my own way "

and that's why he was able to unlock his own SSB form - (from his PRIDE and passing his OWN limits)

..I like Vegeta i really do, its stans that annoys me.

 

[MVP]

That was lame. Oh well. Ready for this arc to end.

 

[second2nonee]

I just want to know

1. What/Who murdered Jiren's family?
2. Is that thing still alive?

belmod

 

[antidope]

belmod

I thought this but he already said jiren could beat him. But it would make perfect sense

 

[llerraj]

Sums up the entire series

 

[s-blaze]

Probably why he dressed as a clown

 

[ihust1e]

18 and Frieza flashback motivated him

 

[AIR J XIII]

Ummm.. First of all Goku is a fighting genius and how do you dismissed the " natural born talent " when Vegeta himself said that about goku in Buu saga

That's a manufactured character trait, and the writers made Vegeta say that.

The reason he won't "sniff " UI (YET) is because of who they are as a character. As Whis pointed out, Vegeta tends overthink stuff compared to goku. His attitude (at this time) when fighting isn't built for UI

Why is Vegeta an overthinker? He's WRITTEN to be that way. Moreover, it's almost always used against him. The only time I can think of when it was portrayed as a positive was when he dropped sand in Zarbon's eyes

Vegeta replied with " I am arrogant and a prideful saiyan, i can never throw away who i am ", " Kakarot can have his UI ", " I'll beat you my own way "

and that's why he was able to unlock his own SSB form - (from his PRIDE and passing his OWN limits)

Once again, the writers made him say that. If Vegeta was the thinker they portray him as, he would've thought to have his own evolutionary path instead of following Kakarot's transformations a long time ago.

 

[HankHill]

Vegeta hasn't been beat to near-death like Goku bum *** has. Vegeta taking hits from everyone, get right back up and it's back to business. Only saving grace was 17s barrier.

 

[rfx45]

Super might be over but we'll get another series before too long if it's not called super when it comes back. We gotta see Goku wash Beerus. It feels like Dragon Ball as a whole is coming to an end. Goku and Vegeta are Gods. This man Goku mastered UI and Beerus couldn't. Where do they go from here? Maybe now we focus on other characters, goten and trunks gotta grow up

Hopefully they go explore the other universes that was too strong for the tourney to be included, I mean that's what Gokus all about, just fighting the strongest so after this that will probably be his next focus?

 

[parada45]

Probably why he dressed as a clown

 

[tr1ll]

Vegeta hasn't been beat to near-death like Goku bum *** has. Vegeta taking hits from everyone, get right back up and it's back to business. Only saving grace was 17s barrier.

So you just gonna forget about Vageta appearring on the bench layed out and swole up? The sensu bean?

Vageta got thoroughly washed, rinsed and hung to dry.

 

[HankHill]

So you just gonna forget about Vageta appearring on the bench layed out and swole up? The sensu bean?

Vageta got thoroughly washed, rinsed and hung to dry.

He wasn't near death. If he landed anywhere else on the stage he would've got back up and started fighting Jiren again. Dude had enough energy left to help Goku regain stamina and turn SSB.

 

[ihust1e]

lol nah

Vegeta my guy was but he got washed. No way around it

Gave his last bit of energy to goku.

And peristalsis got that sensu bean down

 

[Belgium]

Despite how powerful he is, Jiren is still a dumbass for not realizing the goat villain is still in the arena

 

[goldmember]

 

[abematic]

Jiren will find out about Kakarot

 

[s-blaze]

Despite how powerful he is, Jiren is still a dumbass for not realizing the goat villain is still in the arena

Doesn't see him as a threat. Even Toppo made quick work of him.

#17 posed a much tougher match up.

 

[Belgium]

Doesn't see him as a threat. Even Toppo made quick work of him.

#17 posed a much tougher match up.

Yeah Jiren could wash Frieza easily but him still being there means U7 has a numerical advantage. Whoever has the most fighters remaining in the arena wins when time runs out. If he can't beat Goku in time he loses as long as Frieza remains there. It's like they somehow forgot about his presence in the arena.

 

[goldmember]

That's a manufactured character trait, and the writers made Vegeta say that.


Why is Vegeta an overthinker? He's WRITTEN to be that way. Moreover, it's almost always used against him. The only time I can think of when it was portrayed as a positive was when he dropped sand in Zarbon's eyes


Once again, the writers made him say that. If Vegeta was the thinker they portray him as, he would've thought to have his own evolutionary path instead of following Kakarot's transformations a long time ago.

If you're gonna stay with the writer excuse then so be it.

Writers are just doing the norm. Writing him as the #2, the sidekick. That aint nothin new in this series. Its the stans hyping the **** outta him and gets triggered when he loses like we havent seen this **** before.

 

[AIR J XIII]

If you're gonna stay with the writer excuse then so be it.

Writers are just doing the norm. Writing him as the #2, the sidekick. That aint nothin new in this series. Its the stans hyping the **** outta him and gets triggered when he loses like we havent seen this **** before.

It’s not an excuse, it’s the reason. As you yourself state that it’s nothing new, so you acknowledge this fact.

What’s different about Kakarot Stan’s hyping him up whenever he gets a power-up or new transformation “like we haven’t seen this **** before”?