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anderson silva needs to fight forrest griffin!
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Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
sad to see, and im certain ill take some flak for this, but this guy wasnt a legend in mma and he never even defended that title successfully.
it's no disrespect to his life, it's just the truth.
always seemed to put in an admirable effort in the octagon tho. respected. RIP.
Co-sign.Originally Posted by 2pacalypsmNOW
Im finally back its been awhile guys..... R.I.P EVAN TANNER 1971-2008 you will be missed by your fans and the UFC/MMA community. My blessings go out to his family. Tanner a legend of the UFC and MMA. Evan one of the greatest UFC middleweight champions.
but this guy wasnt a legend in mma and he never even defended that title successfully.
That wasn't necessary
R.I.P.
i see nothing unclassy about what i said at all.Originally Posted by illphillip
Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
sad to see, and im certain ill take some flak for this, but this guy wasnt a legend in mma and he never even defended that title successfully.
it's no disrespect to his life, it's just the truth.
always seemed to put in an admirable effort in the octagon tho. respected. RIP.
Would it have killed you to be classy and just keep your opinions to yourself on this one? RIP Evan Tanner.
Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
Originally Posted by Chester McFloppy
I'm just happy I was alive and a fan during his beast days.
i think it's easily down to chuck, randy and wandy for greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
say what you want about the pioneers of the sport but none of them could hang with these 3.
and quite frankly i think chuck's hit list reads better than anyone else's in the sport.
couture x2
belfort
randleman
silva
horn
overeem
tito x2
sobral x2
a shame he's done.
and im not just writing him off, im being realistic based on what ive seen from him over his last bunch of fights.
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BAYWATCHIN!!!!
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I can't help but appreciate someone who does not have any formal training on any combat sports and is still able to fight on a high level.
nah, i understand that, i never made any disparaging remarks about the guy i just thought some of the statements being made were a littleoutlandish.
that was my .02.
ive read on a couple other boards that liddell just got caught and it had nothing to do with him slowing down.
this guy LITERALLY BROKE VERNAN WHITES'S FACE. and now he cant ko keith jardine? id say that's a lost step.
While it's difficult to track the origin of most sports back to the nineteenth century, one sport we can track the origins of reasonably well as a modern entity is MMA. While vale tudo fights have been going on in Brazil since the 1950s, and Pancrase brought back the ancient art of pankration in the early nineties, the easiest place to start when it comes to marking the starting point of modern MMA would be UFC 1 and its first fight, when savate fighter Gerard Gordeau knocked massive hosebeast Teila Tuli's teeth out with a kick in 26 seconds.
Best in the world?
From there, by analyzing who beat Gordeau, and then who beat him, and on and on, we can track the linear champion of MMA and analyze, in a somewhat serious way, who the world champion of MMA truly is. [table][tr][td]Champion[/td] [td]Method[/td] [td]Rd[/td] [td]Date[/td] [td]Defenses[/td] [td]Days[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Gerard Gordeau[/td] [td]TKO (Kicks)[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]11/12/1993[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Royce Gracie[/td] [td]Submission (Rear Naked Choke)[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]11/12/1993[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]301[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Harold Howard[/td] [td]Towel Thrown In[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]9/9/1994[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Steve Jennum[/td] [td]Submission (Strikes)[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]9/9/1994[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]463[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Tank Abbott[/td] [td]Submission (Neck Crank)[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]12/16/1995[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Dan Severn[/td] [td]UD[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]12/16/1995[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]419[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Mark Coleman[/td] [td]Submission (Choke)[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]2/7/1997[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]170[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Maurice Smith[/td] [td]Decision[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]7/27/1997[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]147[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Randy Couture[/td] [td]Decision[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]12/21/1997[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]308[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Enson Inoue[/td] [td]Submission (Armbar)[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]10/25/1998[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]462[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Mark Kerr[/td] [td]Decision[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]1/30/2000[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]92[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Kazuyuki Fujita[/td] [td]Decision[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]5/1/2000[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]974[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Mirko Crocop[/td] [td]UD[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]12/31/2002[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]313[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira[/td] [td]Submission (Armbar)[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]11/9/2003[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]418[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Fedor Emelianenko[/td] [td]UD[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]12/31/2004[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]1329[/td] [/tr][/table]What this sort of analysis shows is how incredible Fedor Emelianenko truly is. He's the only fighter with more than six defenses and 1000 days of holding the belt, and while he doesn't have to contend with the one-night tournaments that Royce Gracie and his ilk did, the man is simply a beast.
Harold Howard, on the other hand? Not so much.
Of course, you'll be able to determine your own linear champion in UFC 2009 Unleashed; you'll just need to create Fedor Emelianenko to do so.