Official N.Y. Yankees 2012 SEASON THREAD (45-28) Vol. 6/25-27 vs CLE .. CC to the DL, & now Andy too

Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks

Great News!!!!

Meredith Marakovits replaces Kim Jones on YES Network.
http://espn.go.com/blog/n...eplaces-kim-jones-on-yes

shes hot!! 

way better than that aj hawk lookin kim jones
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Kim jones was annoying
 
Originally Posted by Cels The YoungGod

Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks

Great News!!!!

Meredith Marakovits replaces Kim Jones on YES Network.
http://espn.go.com/blog/n...eplaces-kim-jones-on-yes

shes hot!! 

way better than that aj hawk lookin kim jones
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Kim jones was annoying
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LOL at the AJ Hawk comparison.

She seemed better when she was commenting about football or doing one of the 7295 investigative pieces about Penn State for Mike Francesa's show.  But she never seemed to ask the hard-hitting questions in the clubhouse...
 
Good article on what the Yanks should do with Pineda.

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There probably hasn’t been a bigger story in any camp this spring than Michael Pineda‘s missing velocity. After throwing 94-97 in Seattle last year, he’s been 89-93 so far this spring, though he did pump a few 94 MPH fastballs in his most recent start on Tuesday. While it’s still important to realize that this reduced velocity isn’t entirely new, you also would have expected Pineda to throw harder by now if he was physically able to do it at this point.

Once his velocity became such a big story, it would have been fairly simple for Pineda to calm everyone’s nerves by tossing out a 96 or 97 MPH fastball if he was just holding back and not throwing at full effort. That he’s only been up to 94 suggests that, whether due to conditioning or some other factor, he’s probably not able to throw as hard at the moment as he did last year. That doesn’t mean he won’t be able to again, but it does create some questions about what the Yankees should do with Pineda now that the season is just a couple of weeks away.

My suggestion – follow the Madison Bumgarner model and have him begin the season in Triple-A.

The situations aren’t exactly analogous, since Bumgarner only had 10 Major League innings under his belt when he showed up for spring training in 2010. However, like Pineda, Bumgarner was experiencing a dramatic shift down in velocity, sitting in the high-80s when he’d previously been clocked in the 92-95 range in the minors. Bumgarner’s 2010 spring was a total disaster, as he walked seven guys and failed to strike out a single batter in seven innings of work. The Giants optioned him out to the minors, and even for his first four starts down there, he was a wreck – 17.1 IP, 16 R, 10 BB, 9 K.

But, with some adjustments, the velocity and the performance started to come back. He started missing bats in Triple-A, getting minor league hitters out, and by mid-summer, the Giants called him back to the big league club. He still wasn’t throwing quite as hard as he had previously, but he had learned to be effective without his top fastball. And then, as the season went on, his previous fastball came back.



By the end of the year, Bumgarner was throwing in the 91-95 range again, and by September, he was dominating, running a 32/4 K/BB ratio in 32 innings. He hasn’t stopped pitching well since.

The Yankees should look at Bumgarner and be encouraged. Not every pitcher who has mysteriously lost their top end fastball has had to live without it forever. If Pineda is not compensating for an injury (and at this point, there haven’t been any indications that he is), there is a real chance that his velocity could return. However, it may behoove the Yankees to let him get his fastball back in the minors, at least to begin the season.

For most teams, they wouldn’t have the luxury of sending Pineda down, but the Yankees have six starting pitchers for five spots. No, Freddy Garcia is not a world beater, but he mixes his pitches well enough to be a serviceable back-end starter. Having him make three starts in April isn’t going to inflict significant damages on the Yankees chances of winning the AL East, and because of the off days in the early season schedule, the Yankees can shift his starts around to give him the most favorable match-ups possible.

The gap in expected runs allowed between Garcia and Pineda is around 0.35 runs per start, so over three starts in April, the Yankees should expect Garcia to give up approximately one more run than Pineda would in those same three starts. And, honestly, that’s with a fairly rosy projection for Pineda given the uncertainty around his performance due to his current diminished velocity. The reality is that, over three starts, there’s really not going to be much of a gain or loss either way.

However, giving Pineda the chance to begin the season in the minors could benefit the Yankees in two real ways:

1. He gets a chance to build his arm strength back up outside of the fishbowl that is New York, where every pitch he throws will be highly scrutinized.

2. The Yankees will convert Pineda’s free agent eligibility in 2016 into a year of team control through arbitration instead.

While I wouldn’t argue in favor of a team sending down a pitcher solely for the purpose of gaming the service time system, Pineda has lost his ability to argue that he has nothing further to gain from a short stint in the minor leagues. The Yankees can easily justify the decision to send him down as a baseball related decision, and reap the rewards of the extra year of team control without needing to do anything underhanded in order to get it.

If Pineda was throwing 95-97 and looking strong, it wouldn’t be a consideration. At 90-94, and taking 20+ pitches to get through an inning against spring training competition, it should be. Especially with Andy Pettitte on the comeback trail, the Yankees do not need Michael Pineda to begin the season. The goal should be to get him throwing well by the end of the year so that he can prepared to be a real weapon for the team in the playoffs. Sacrificing a few early-season Major League starts may just be the best way to get Pineda in the best shape possible for October, and could get the Yankees an extra year of service from him in the process.
 
SET BACK ALERT

Jack Curry - Joba Chamberlain dislocated right ankle yesterday and had surgery last night. Cashman called it a significant injury. Cashman said Joba injured himself while playing with his son. They were jumping around on a "trampoline" of sorts
 
Originally Posted by venom lyrix

SET BACK ALERT

Jack Curry - Joba Chamberlain dislocated right ankle yesterday and had surgery last night. Cashman called it a significant injury. Cashman said Joba injured himself while playing with his son. They were jumping around on a "trampoline" of sorts
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Wonder if that violates a clause in his contract?

Joba came up guns blazing, now dude probably can't even fill a water gun without getting hurt.
 
I was at old Yankee stadium for Joba's first major league start. Was arguing with the guy sitting in front of me, who tried to tell me that Joba was the best young pitching prospect in the Major Leagues.

Which one of you clowns was that?
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07-08 it wasn't so farfetched. He was behind a very late pick because of the tricep injury and the class was deep and some of em weren't living up to the hype. Andrew Miller, Adam Miller, Morales, Elbert etc. Not the best but he was up there. Especially not having the pedigree of being a first rounder.
 
I was at Yankee Stadium for Joba's first ever relief appearance at home vs Seattle. My friends and I were chanting from the 300's starting in the 4th inning for him. I know that's crazy but it was right after his road stint electrifying everyone.

This sucks, he lost a ton of blood and the bone pierced the skin, saying it's really serious and he won't be able to put weight on that ankle for 3 months.

I think he's finished as a Yankee
 
Yeah he's out, they said life threatening, limb threatening and career threatening. He's definitely done as a Yankee but probably baseball period
 
well i drove TWELVE HOURS to cleveland to see Joba blow his first game against the indians in game 2 of the playoffs. worst drive home ever, and hes never been the same since
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I can't fault Joba for playing with his son on that trampoline. If he didn't have that freak injury, his choice to be with his son would be a total non-issue.

His injury was pretty gross...hope he recovers fully.

Otherwise, yeah, I think he's done as a Yankee.
 
Originally Posted by Proshares

How many of Team Yankees are down for a Fantasy Baseball league again this year?

Anywhere between 10-12 regulars, I already have two in Briannnnnnnnnn and my dude Rob (Chicagokid on here) who helped us out and was in it last season.
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Giving this a much-needed bump...
 
Originally Posted by CarolinaPack04

well i drove TWELVE HOURS to cleveland to see Joba blow his first game against the indians in game 2 of the playoffs. worst drive home ever, and hes never been the same since
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THOSE #@%!+*% GNATS!
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