Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

[antidope]

LeBron and Durant. Thats it, that is where the line ends.

IF YOU ARE WHAT YOU SAY YOU AREEEE A SUPERSTARRRRRRRRR HAVE NO FEARRR.....

LMAO Your HILARIOUS. The fact that you left out SO MANY NAMES, is just funny.

The fact that you think that I left out "So many names" furthers my point that the term superstar is used too loosely. People are out there throwing out 8+ names. Really? Come one lets be serious, thats overuse of the term. You're including too many people and all that does is open up the door for one more person to get in who replicates that persons production. CP3s production can be replicated by Deron Williams, TPs production can be replicated by Stephs, Monta Ellis replicates what Melo does, and so on. Superstars are the two players in the league who produce at such a high level that no one else can replicate it right now. That is LeBron and Durant.

Those are all stars. Those aren't all superstars

I'm looking at the entire picture. If guys like Dirk/Duncan aren't considered superstars in the league after ALL that they've accomplished (and are still contributing at a high level), then I dunno what to tell you.

What's the difference between a "superstar" moniker and "all-star" in looking at the players that I named?

They arent superstars currently, and thats not a knock on them. I feel like people are taking the fact that people arent being labeled superstars as a knock on them. Its not, all the players you named are fantastic players and are good for great performances every night. But theres a difference between going out there and putting up an 8 game, than the two guys who are out there putting up 10 games every single night.

LeBron and Durant. Thats it, that is where the line ends.



So kobe is not a superstar? Hahaahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahaha I'm done

Kobe is no longer a superstar. Was he? Yes. 

 

[dirtybuhbuhnew]

all those guys could take a lottery bound team to a playoffs . (may be with exception to rondo ) i would put dwight on thier as honorable mention due to his last few seasons in orlando 

Thats what I'm saying.

Put Kobe on the bobcats and they could make the playoffs. Put Melo in detroit and they could mk the playoffs. Put DWADE in DC and they become title contenders

 

[dirtybuhbuhnew]

The fact that you think that I left out "So many names" furthers my point that the term superstar is used too loosely. People are out there throwing out 8+ names. Really? Come one lets be serious, thats overuse of the term. You're including too many people and all that does is open up the door for one more person to get in who replicates that persons production. CP3s production can be replicated by Deron Williams, TPs production can be replicated by Stephs, Monta Ellis replicates what Melo does, and so on. Superstars are the two players in the league who produce at such a high level that no one else can replicate it right now. That is LeBron and Durant.

They arent superstars currently, and thats not a knock on them. I feel like people are taking the fact that people arent being labeled superstars as a knock on them. Its not, all the players you named are fantastic players and are good for great performances every night. But theres a difference between going out there and putting up an 8 game, than the two guys who are out there putting up 10 games every single night.

Kobe is no longer a superstar. Was he? Yes. 

You trippin bro

 

[tyonenine]

Thats what I'm saying.


Put Kobe on the bobcats and they could make the playoffs. Put Melo in detroit and they could mk the playoffs. Put DWADE in DC and they become title contenders

I don't really think kobe would make the bobcats a playoff team

 

[jjs07]

The fact that you think that I left out "So many names" furthers my point that the term superstar is used too loosely. People are out there throwing out 8+ names. Really? Come one lets be serious, thats overuse of the term. You're including too many people and all that does is open up the door for one more person to get in who replicates that persons production. CP3s production can be replicated by Deron Williams, TPs production can be replicated by Stephs, Monta Ellis replicates what Melo does, and so on. Superstars are the two players in the league who produce at such a high level that no one else can replicate it right now. That is LeBron and Durant.
They arent superstars currently, and thats not a knock on them. I feel like people are taking the fact that people arent being labeled superstars as a knock on them. Its not, all the players you named are fantastic players and are good for great performances every night. But theres a difference between going out there and putting up an 8 game, than the two guys who are out there putting up 10 games every single night.



Kobe is no longer a superstar. Was he? Yes. 

I got no rebuttal...I get your POV. However, I think guys like Kobe, Dirk, Duncan will always have the superstar label due to their whole careers and that they are still playing at an elite level.

 

[JD617]

Put Kobe on the bobcats and they could make the playoffs.

No.

Put Melo in detroit and they could mk the playoffs.

No.

Put DWADE in DC and they become title contenders

And no.

 

[sosmoney23]

I can understand why most ppl dont consider melo a superstar, he doesnt impact the game in multiple areas as bron or KD. In there eyes he's just a scorer/chucker.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

 

[black migo]

Being a superstar is having your own sneakers(not pe's), selling out arenas when your on the visiting team, having highest selling jerseys etc. just because melo doesnt play up to your circumstances doesnt mean hes not a superstar

 

[Figured it out]

No.


No.



And no.

You got to remember all those teams are in the eastern conference. It's very possible they would make the playoffs. Washington title contenders with D wade? No ,Washington making the playoffs?yes

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Oh Anti....

You don't like eggs??? Fine I'll give you a pass


New Jersey is the goat state??? Kinda weird but whatever....

Melo isn't a superstar?!?!?! STOP IT

 

[T0INE]

I love Magic as an old nba legend but how much is he getting paid to continuously stutter on tv (when kids are in school grinding in broadcasting/communication/speech classes to get a job like his)?

No worries all those kids can work at one of Magic's Starbucks or movie theatres

Magic on ESPN = Shaq on TNT

Negative.

Shaq's schtick can get annoying, but he can provide some good analysis from time to time.

His oncourt demonstrations about various aspects of the Center position he's done from time to time on TNT/NBATV are insightful, and show he has a real knowledge of the position.

With Magic on the other hand you get such gems as "(insert random NBA team) isn't likely to win the game if (insert random NBA superstar) doesn't play well." or that Russell Westbrook is the worst finals PG in NBA history.

He adds absolutely nothing to the show. The fact that ESPN execs decided to relocate their NBA show to accommodate Magic is laughable to me.

 

[sosmoney23]

Thats what I'm saying.


Put Kobe on the bobcats and they could make the playoffs. Put Melo in detroit and they could mk the playoffs. Put DWADE in DC and they become title contenders

I don't really think kobe would make the bobcats a playoff team

Lol Is he smoking dust?? the only player taking those sorry *** bobcats to the playoffs is bron

 

[tyonenine]

I got no rebuttal...I get your POV. However, I think guys like Kobe, Dirk, Duncan will always have the superstar label due to their whole careers and that they are still playing at an elite level.

No man. Doesn't work like that. Dirk has left his prime and Duncan and Kobe are both leaving theirs. If Kobe was a superstar, the lakers would've been a top seed.

 

[antidope]

Being a superstar is having your own sneakers(not pe's), selling out arenas when your on the visiting team, having highest selling jerseys etc. just because melo doesnt play up to your circumstances doesnt mean hes not a superstar

Non basketball factors............ Guess Jeremy Lin is a superstar now cause out Asian attendance and viewership are through the roof. Stop it

Oh Anti....

You don't like eggs??? Fine I'll give you a pass


New Jersey is the goat state??? Kinda weird but whatever....

Melo isn't a superstar?!?!?! STOP IT

Eggs are freaking disgusting. The Jersey doubters I will ignore, they just dont know

 

[rrlegend]

No.

No.

And no.

that was a bit much but i think melo could take detroit to the playoffs. a superstar to me is an allstar for one, at least top 3 for his position, popular enough that non fans know how he is , and a franchise player. 

 

[black migo]

No man. Doesn't work like that. Dirk has left his prime and Duncan and Kobe are both leaving theirs. If Kobe was a superstar, the lakers would've been a top seed.

Lmao so back in 05-07 kobe wasnt a superstar

 

[tyonenine]

What has melo accomplished in his career? I'll wait....

 

[antidope]

What has melo accomplished in his career? I'll wait....

He sells jerseys and has his own shoe B

 

[dirtybuhbuhnew]

Negative.

Shaq's schtick can get annoying, but he can provide some good analysis from time to time.

His oncourt demonstrations about various aspects of the Center position he's done from time to time on TNT/NBATV are insightful, and show he has a real knowledge of the position.

With Magic on the other hand you get such gems as "(insert random NBA team) isn't likely to win the game if (insert random NBA superstar) doesn't play well." or that Russell Westbrook is the worst finals PG in NBA history.

He adds absolutely nothing to the show. The fact that ESPN execs decided to relocate their NBA show to accommodate Magic is laughable to me.

EVERY single Shaq Analysis begins with comparisons to himself. That mess is a annoying.

 

[rrlegend]

What has melo accomplished in his career? I'll wait....

he won a scoring title 

 

[jjs07]

Being a superstar is having your own sneakers(not pe's), selling out arenas when your on the visiting team, having highest selling jerseys etc. just because melo doesnt play up to your circumstances doesnt mean hes not a superstar

They're selling out arenas because they're the Knicks. That team has one of the most loyal/best fanbases around. Even before Melo got there, they'd have no problem filling up opposing arenas with fans. It's not because of Melo that people are coming out to watch them play.

 

[tyonenine]

Lmao so back in 05-07 kobe wasnt a superstar

Back in 05-07 Kobe didn't have dwight and gasol......

 

[shatterkneesinc]

imo you need all 4 elements to be considered a superstar.
success + fame + respect + impact on the game = superstar

kobe duncan dirk and KG may be on the decline but they still very highly regarded

 

[T0INE]

Y'all really going through this who is and is not a "superstar" nonsense again?

That my cue to not check in here until the Chicago/Miami game starts tomorrow.