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^ it isnt just like the definition you posted it explains it perfectly
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Moving forward, I think Indiana has set the blueprint for how to beat the heat. Heat had an amazing effort to come back and win it, but for the majority of the game they were outplayed. I'd like to see the spurs play them cause that's my team, but i think either them or Memphis has what it takes. Dominant bigs, solid perimeter defense, and if such a thing exists contain lebron to the point that you're forcing the role players to step up and beat you.
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If you gave Melo, Wade & Bosh they'd win. A gold medal in something FIBA related.
NBA - jury is STILL out on Melo in the post season. He's got one of the worst track records of current players. This obviously started before his time in NY.
As it's been said over and over...he's not Lebron.
I honestly don't know the type of player, or players that would thrive playing with Melo.
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Complete disaster...talk about hyperbole. Chandler was clearly hurt combined with playing basketball pretty much non-stop since the 2010 season. A disaster is the Raptors, the Knicks are an average to above-average team now for the next couple year. Prolly max out at ECSF. Is that what I want? No, of course not. But that is hardly a disaster. You were calling the Knicks a 7-seed at the beginning of the season, so I tend to disregard your opinion on us. You just love railing against the Knicks anytime they are brought up.
They were a flawed team, everyone knew that but Melo was really good this year and they hit their shots for a large part of the year. Their best this year was as good as any other teams. Their worst was pretty damn bad. That's what happens when you rely on 3 point shooting.
They were a flawed team, everyone knew that but Melo was really good this year and they hit their shots for a large part of the year. Their best this year was as good as any other teams. Their worst was pretty damn bad. That's what happens when you rely on 3 point shooting.
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So Duncan/Garnett wouldn't thrive around him...Chris Paul wouldn't thrive around him or D.Will or Westbrook. Get the **** out of here with that clownishness. Anyone who can shoot as well as Melo can when he has someone to penetrate and kick to him will play well with other elite talent ie see Chauncy Billups, the only other really good player that Melo has really played with at an elite level.
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who is actually out there?
byron scott
sam mitchell
terry porter
paul silas
alvin gentry
byron scott
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terry porter
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If you can't rely on your second option to atleast have a decent game......... I would chalk that up as needing other options. This team won 54 games because they gave a good team around him, in order to win championships you need a great team around.
How many of those games were with a completely healthy Amare stoudemire.... 80% of the time they have gotten a chance to play together amare's coming off of a major surgery. Melo forced a trade here Banking on amare's health and obviously that hasn't happened yet. So essentially he's in NY playing with the same amount of talent he played with on the Nuggets..
Their is no other championship team that needs its top 4 players to play GREAT in order to win a series... Add that to the fact that the star player (Who is primarily a jump shooter) had a Torn Labrum and was still BY FAR the best player on the floor... The Jury isn't out on him in the playoffs he just averaged 28 and 7 for his squad simply put his team isn't good enough as constructed.
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You don't think the roster is a mess, but yet you admit that you're a flawed team? OK, chief.
There is little-to-no flexibility and we're probably looking at their ceiling. Things in NY are a mess. Whether you can admit that or not, that's beyond me.
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I hope CP3 isn't serious.
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He'd win just like LeBron is doing now man stop it. LeBron had the same exact track record as Melo before he ran to south beach. That's a fact that can't be disputed. Melo has never played with talent the likes of Wade and Bosh. Another indisputable fact. He doesn't have to be LeBron or be better than LeBron in order to win with talent like Wade and Bosh. Before he got to NY, he played in the best conference in the NBA against the best. It's no shame in him being the sole star on his team, losing to the likes of the CHAMPIONSHIP Lakers and Spurs.
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@ 70 games over three years being time to develop chemistry. It took the HEAT THREE YEARS OF BEING TOGETHER TO DEVELOP CHEMISTRY!!!! THREE YEARS!!! Amar'e doesn't practice he doesn't play, and when he does its for like twenty minutes. He hasn't been on the court. That isn't a real judge of time at all man. That's is just so asinine beyond belief. Maybe it wouldn't have ever worked but it never happened because Amar'e has been MIA. He has played 70 of 246 games. That's a joke if you think you can make a fair assessment with that. Chemistry is built by playing with each other every day over the course of a long time, see the Heat, see early Shaq/Kobe, see Michael Bulls.Your definition of a mess is different than mine. Is this team ever going to win a championship/ECF finals? No. But only one team does every year. The suns/raptors/Minnesota, those teams qualify as a mess to me. The Knicks are flawed and in a ****** position but going to the playoffs I don't think you can call that a mess when you go to the ECF.
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You always talk out your ***?
It's this what we do everytime a black person speaks on their preference? Automatically bring up "well what if a white man did it".
Most coaches in the leagues of every major sport are white...so realistically when the hell would that scenario even happen?
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Way to answer the question. And NT does that same thing the other way. CP3 should worry about getting his fat *** in shape and not the color of skin his coach is
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I think its a little weird CP3 said that and I'm black
I mean, how would it look if back in the day Larry Bird said "I prefer a white coach"?
If those were CP3's exact words (prejudice or not), he should not have said it.
I mean, how would it look if back in the day Larry Bird said "I prefer a white coach"?
If those were CP3's exact words (prejudice or not), he should not have said it.
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You don't think the roster is a mess, but yet you admit that you're a flawed team? OK, chief.
There is little-to-no flexibility and we're probably looking at their ceiling. Things in NY are a mess. Whether you can admit that or not, that's beyond me.
Aren'y you a Washington wizards fan you KNOW first hand what a disaster of a roster is. The knicks are a team that aren't going to be able to win a ring for the next two years they will be top 3 in their conference how is that a mess?
On top of that they will have shumps Bird Rights, J.R signed for pretty cheap, and a HUGE amount of Cap space open in 2015 for them to sign whichever other star they want and to get melo back. So although they aren't a championship contender they are in a much better space than 80% of the teams in the L
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I'll ask you again.because your preference to black women is summed up by them being black. and your preference against other women is that they aren't black. how is this not prejudicial
Would what be my "unfavorable" opinion about non black women?
that...they...aren't...black...
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Chuck was posting 27 & 7 with Melo. Thats elite. People forget allen was still elite in denver.
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So, what's the reason for his ineptitude with Amar'e? Who else you gonna name? Bill Russell? Charles Barkley? Lebron? C'mon man, be realistic. It's everyone BUT Melo, right? He's a 10th year pro and at this point he is what he is. Can't change a Zebra's stripes and there's a reason why his playoff #'s are so poor.
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Amare not fitting with the Knicks has nothing to do with chemistry.
1. He's a terrible defender and playing him next to Melo, another pretty bad defender, leads to a lot of bad things. You can't afford those mistakes from your PF - it puts too much pressure on Tyson.
2. He's at his best when he plays the PnR but Tyson Chandler is a better PnR option than 95% of the league when healthy - Amare included.
3. So you have a liability on defense who can't do what he does best on offense + isn't a good enough shooter to space the floor.
Even when healthy and scoring well, Woodson has been hesitant to use Amare.
1. He's a terrible defender and playing him next to Melo, another pretty bad defender, leads to a lot of bad things. You can't afford those mistakes from your PF - it puts too much pressure on Tyson.
2. He's at his best when he plays the PnR but Tyson Chandler is a better PnR option than 95% of the league when healthy - Amare included.
3. So you have a liability on defense who can't do what he does best on offense + isn't a good enough shooter to space the floor.
Even when healthy and scoring well, Woodson has been hesitant to use Amare.
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Heat went to the finals the first year the big 3 were together breh
Your definition of a mess is different than mine. Is this team ever going to win a championship/ECF finals? No. But only one team does every year. The suns/raptors/Minnesota, those teams qualify as a mess to me. The Knicks are flawed and in a ****** position but going to the playoffs I don't think you can call that a mess when you go to the ECF.
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Bruh, just because someone prefers something, doesn't mean he thins what he prefers is superior
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Who u telling?
As a Wizards fan, OF COURSE I know what a disaster of a roster looks like. So, eventhough this team was built for the ECF, we're now targeting 2015 for when they'll really make a splash? Seriously?
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AI could still score twenty in his sleep, he was not elite in Denver. And that was the worst chemistry pairing ever. Two chucks together will never work well, plus one who was a horrible role model like AI was for Melo.
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Yea, but that was based on talent alone. They had three healthy superstars that first year, that carried them until they met a team with elite chemistry and a red-hot Dirk/Terry.
The Heat only really became what everyone though they would be this year. They won the other years just because they had someone named LeBron James who just happens to being playing the best basketball in 20 years. They could get by with not having great sets, chemistry, feel cause Wade and LeBron and Bosh could overcome that. This year offensives they developed a repertoire and system that wasn't their previous years.
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Bruh, just because someone prefers something, doesn't mean he thins what he prefers is superior
no one is arguing superiority. we're arguing prejudicial or not. preferring one race in general to another race is prejudicial. how does no one see this?
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