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@MarkGMedina Kobe's last message to Smush: "I wish him the best of luck. He's in China, right?
Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread
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Why is he ******** on smush like that tho
runningfishy
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Why is he ******** on smush like that tho
This is the immature Kobe and the reason why Kobe has a gap.
I mean, it's very easy for Kobe to talk crap about guys in the past, but Kobe has not been able to do it alone himself. He has not proved to anyone that he could put a team on his back and get it done.
Kobe is making a dumb PR move by constantly attacking his previous team mates and gloating about how good his team is on paper. LA still has a very weak bench and this is a long season. You can tell how Kobe is actually losing it mentally by talking about retirement and upselling how good his team is w/o regards to his accomplished success.
I'm was a Kobe, then LA guy, but once he inked himself as a testament of crime, I'm now a LA, then Kobe guy. I would very much like to see Dwight turn into the next corner stone and cheer for him! In essence, Dwight is doing all the great PR moves.
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This dude Smush is gonna have to smash Kobe's knees with a hammer or something. His existence gets dragged through the dirt every pre-season for the past few years.
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Derozan might be the most frequent Euro-Step user of anyone above 6'5 in the league.
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Drummond looks like he has the goods
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Lol it's not that serious bruh.
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Smush needs to stop because he keeps looking like a joke every time he says what Kobe has said to him 
solarius49
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Pacers showin out tonight 
solarius49
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http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/50145/the-nbas-flopping-strategy
The NBA's flopping strategy
“Flopping” will be defined as any physical act that appears to have been intended to cause the referees to call a foul on another player. The primary factor in determining whether a player committed a flop is whether his physical reaction to contact with another player is inconsistent with what would reasonably be expected given the force or direction of the contact.
-- NBA news release
The NBA is getting in the business of busting floppers, and it has its sights set on reactions that are "inconsistent with what would reasonably be expected."
Tricky territory, indeed.
Of course, the vast majority of NBA flops are subtle. Good floppers are artists, masters of disguise. A player driving with the ball, for instance, might scream "Hey!" in the manner of someone who has been mugged, when in fact there has not yet been contact. Or two players go for a loose ball and one takes aggressively to the floor after only an inkling of contact.
Not to mention everyone's favorite tough basketball call, the block/charge, where a player driving at the hoop meets a stationary defender who flies backward to his backside in a theatrical bit of referee begging that may or may not have been inspired by real contact.
With anti-flopping rules, based on postgame video review, now in the rulebooks, the worry is that the NBA has entered the tricky business of parsing a wide array of marginal plays every game. What genius can figure all that out by watching postgame video?
A prediction: That worry is misplaced. This video-review program won't do much and will certainly leave every one of those tough-to-call plays alone.
Not a huge change: The worst thing about these rule changes is that they are unlikely to change much. It's a very timid step, which is welcome news for those nervous about the rules existing at all. These rules aren't designed to change much.
To understand, consider the league's position. The problem the NBA needs to solve is not how to eliminate every flop from the game. The problem it's trying to solve is how to keep the league from looking foolish in the media and online day in and day out. It acted on this issue once that became a daily reality, through Jeff Van Gundy's routine rants on game broadcasts, #FlopoftheNight and a growing class of "wow, that was a whopper of a flop" chatter.
The flop talk didn't just get people talking about something embarrassing. It got people talking, and showing video of, something where the league was both blatantly in the wrong and entirely impotent to do anything about it.
Sometimes, on a few plays a season, an artless flopper is caught perfectly on video. On those days, it's exceedingly obvious that the referees have been played. With every view of that video, the league lost a valuable ounce of the public's respect.
This rule is about getting that respect back.
Job one: Keeping the league from looking clueless
The new policy doesn't do much about those marginal calls. But those horribly embarrassing plays where referees were blatantly duped, and that got people talking on studio shows, sports radio and the like were damaging.
From now on, that video will come with an important sidebar: news that the play is being reviewed and is subject to a fine.
Impotence: over. The NBA is back in charge of the NBA.
All those tough-to-call plays? They'll remain tough to call.
The NBA's news release says: "Physical acts that constitute legitimate basketball plays (such as moving to a spot in order to draw an offensive foul) and minor physical reactions to contact will not be treated as flops."
I read that part in parentheses as a clear endorsement of the age-old technique of drawing a charge, even if -- even as coached by referees -- it does involve theater. I also read it as the league taking a pass on plays where it's hard to say whether the player should have gone sprawling.
The open question is whether these fines are enough to keep so many players from putting so much effort into deluding referees. Many insiders insist players go to great lengths to avoid those kinds of fines -- indeed, a fifth offense would cost a whopping $30,000, a sixth offense some mysterious additional amount too grave to announce at this time.
The fixed-dollar fines are a huge deal for a player making the minimum. But are they any concern at all to someone making $15 million?
And that's the heart of the matter. In the NBA now, some of the most brilliant and competitive players are also some of the most brilliant and competitive floppers. I'm talking about LeBron James throwing his head back violently while driving the lane, Chris Paul falling down in the open court after a little bump from a defender or Dirk Nowitzki jumping out of bounds, as if shoved from behind, while rebounding. The qualities that make a great athlete (anticipation, balance, vision, abhorrence of losing) are helpful in making floppers, too.
Those best players, however, are too good at it to get caught in really obvious offenses. And they make far too much money to really sweat the fine.
It says here that the NBA's new program will go a long way toward reducing the embarrassment flopping causes the league but won't do much to stop the best floppers from plying their complicated trade.
The NBA's flopping strategy
“Flopping” will be defined as any physical act that appears to have been intended to cause the referees to call a foul on another player. The primary factor in determining whether a player committed a flop is whether his physical reaction to contact with another player is inconsistent with what would reasonably be expected given the force or direction of the contact.
-- NBA news release
The NBA is getting in the business of busting floppers, and it has its sights set on reactions that are "inconsistent with what would reasonably be expected."
Tricky territory, indeed.
Of course, the vast majority of NBA flops are subtle. Good floppers are artists, masters of disguise. A player driving with the ball, for instance, might scream "Hey!" in the manner of someone who has been mugged, when in fact there has not yet been contact. Or two players go for a loose ball and one takes aggressively to the floor after only an inkling of contact.
Not to mention everyone's favorite tough basketball call, the block/charge, where a player driving at the hoop meets a stationary defender who flies backward to his backside in a theatrical bit of referee begging that may or may not have been inspired by real contact.
With anti-flopping rules, based on postgame video review, now in the rulebooks, the worry is that the NBA has entered the tricky business of parsing a wide array of marginal plays every game. What genius can figure all that out by watching postgame video?
A prediction: That worry is misplaced. This video-review program won't do much and will certainly leave every one of those tough-to-call plays alone.
Not a huge change: The worst thing about these rule changes is that they are unlikely to change much. It's a very timid step, which is welcome news for those nervous about the rules existing at all. These rules aren't designed to change much.
To understand, consider the league's position. The problem the NBA needs to solve is not how to eliminate every flop from the game. The problem it's trying to solve is how to keep the league from looking foolish in the media and online day in and day out. It acted on this issue once that became a daily reality, through Jeff Van Gundy's routine rants on game broadcasts, #FlopoftheNight and a growing class of "wow, that was a whopper of a flop" chatter.
The flop talk didn't just get people talking about something embarrassing. It got people talking, and showing video of, something where the league was both blatantly in the wrong and entirely impotent to do anything about it.
Sometimes, on a few plays a season, an artless flopper is caught perfectly on video. On those days, it's exceedingly obvious that the referees have been played. With every view of that video, the league lost a valuable ounce of the public's respect.
This rule is about getting that respect back.
Job one: Keeping the league from looking clueless
The new policy doesn't do much about those marginal calls. But those horribly embarrassing plays where referees were blatantly duped, and that got people talking on studio shows, sports radio and the like were damaging.
From now on, that video will come with an important sidebar: news that the play is being reviewed and is subject to a fine.
Impotence: over. The NBA is back in charge of the NBA.
All those tough-to-call plays? They'll remain tough to call.
The NBA's news release says: "Physical acts that constitute legitimate basketball plays (such as moving to a spot in order to draw an offensive foul) and minor physical reactions to contact will not be treated as flops."
I read that part in parentheses as a clear endorsement of the age-old technique of drawing a charge, even if -- even as coached by referees -- it does involve theater. I also read it as the league taking a pass on plays where it's hard to say whether the player should have gone sprawling.
The open question is whether these fines are enough to keep so many players from putting so much effort into deluding referees. Many insiders insist players go to great lengths to avoid those kinds of fines -- indeed, a fifth offense would cost a whopping $30,000, a sixth offense some mysterious additional amount too grave to announce at this time.
The fixed-dollar fines are a huge deal for a player making the minimum. But are they any concern at all to someone making $15 million?
And that's the heart of the matter. In the NBA now, some of the most brilliant and competitive players are also some of the most brilliant and competitive floppers. I'm talking about LeBron James throwing his head back violently while driving the lane, Chris Paul falling down in the open court after a little bump from a defender or Dirk Nowitzki jumping out of bounds, as if shoved from behind, while rebounding. The qualities that make a great athlete (anticipation, balance, vision, abhorrence of losing) are helpful in making floppers, too.
Those best players, however, are too good at it to get caught in really obvious offenses. And they make far too much money to really sweat the fine.
It says here that the NBA's new program will go a long way toward reducing the embarrassment flopping causes the league but won't do much to stop the best floppers from plying their complicated trade.
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not with their current coach
he loves playing scrubs during crucial moments
mike brown level
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Biedrins 
Son was the sole reason why I never played as the Warriors in 2K11.
Looking forward to seeing JET in the Garden
Son was the sole reason why I never played as the Warriors in 2K11.
Looking forward to seeing JET in the Garden
solarius49
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Lou Amundson and Hansbrough smh.
To his defense, Hibbert cant play the entire game, and we didnt have any quality backup bigs....
Hibbert still should have been in the game during the clutch, he really needs to improve his conditioning
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shoeking2101
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Hot Dog Vendor: "He's handling that sausage like a pro...nine inches of pleasure."
Jason Terry:
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This guy Tony Douglas trying to cook during preseason
This guy Tony Douglas trying to cook during preseason
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Warrior fans used to be on Biedrin's NUTS HARD. Damn.
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while what kobe said may have been humorous cause it was so typical kobe, on a human level i can't help but feel bad for anyone who gets slandered like that. it's just unnecessary and kind of cruel
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The Jazz should have gone after LeGoran Dragic more agressively.
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No wonder when Smush got interviewed on the court right after Kobe's 81 point game he kept trying to downplay the performance and telling the announcer that it was a team win
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Just came across the Suns vs. Blazers game and peeped the new Suns court. The "Suns" on center court reminds me of the OSU font. 
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The Hornets are 3-0 with Anthony Davis; 0-1 without him.
#winner
#winner
datznasty
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Cole Aldrich is so terrible. I can't stand this dude. Thabeet is better sans for the fouling out in 15 minutes 2 games in a row and behind him, we have Orton. Sucks
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The Hornets are 3-0 with Anthony Davis; 0-1 without him.
#winner
not sure if...
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