OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Which Kobe was better

  • No. 8

    Votes: 29 49.2%
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    Votes: 30 50.8%

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This ***** had a layup....and passed it back to the perimeter for Steven Adams for a THREE

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At the 57 second mark when the foreign commentator laughs at his stat padding.

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Did Russ triple double hunt last night? I didn't catch the game.
 
Anyone hear Kevin O'Connor's rant about Thibs from yesterday's podcast?:

"I would fire him today. The dude played an 8-man rotation on a back to back. An 8-man rotation on 3 games in 4 nights for that team. The amount of minutes is a joke. Every study about health and recovery and minutes has just been utterly ignored. It's like denying climate change, that's what it's like, playing these guys for that minutes.

And not only that, it's more than that...yes, you're playing these guys for a ridiculous amount of minutes, but you know what else you're also doing? You're really disrupting the locker room. A lot of the guys in that bench who probably deserve to play, or thought that they have may have been getting opportunity and minutes, especially when there have been injuries?

I've heard rumblings that there's some chemistry issues in that locker room, maybe a little bit with guys against Towns a little bit because of his effort, maybe a little bit with some of the guys on that bench unhappy with playing time and opportunity. There's issues there and it all, in my opinion, from what I can tell, derives from Thibs with the usage, with the system, with the opportunity.

[recap of Minnesota's minutes distribution in this game]

I just think it's insane....and as long as that continues, you are putting your players at risk health-wise, but you are also I think harming your locker room and team chemistry. I just think it's an utter mess."

Goes on to talk about Deng, Rose, Noah, all the guys who should still have careers now but are totally wasted.

Been saying this for years. People went rabid on me a couple years back when I said Thibs is not a highest-tier NBA head coach.
 
MDA rocks with an 8 man rotation all the time and no one complains.

Thibbs is wilding a lot though

Mike D does get deserved criticism for that, but his rotations are not nearly as bad as Thibs. He works in much more reasonable minutes among the 8 guys he plays. And yeah Mike really needs to give more players run IMO.
 
Anyone hear Kevin O'Connor's rant about Thibs from yesterday's podcast?:

"I would fire him today. The dude played an 8-man rotation on a back to back. An 8-man rotation on 3 games in 4 nights for that team. The amount of minutes is a joke. Every study about health and recovery and minutes has just been utterly ignored. It's like denying climate change, that's what it's like, playing these guys for that minutes.

And not only that, it's more than that...yes, you're playing these guys for a ridiculous amount of minutes, but you know what else you're also doing? You're really disrupting the locker room. A lot of the guys in that bench who probably deserve to play, or thought that they have may have been getting opportunity and minutes, especially when there have been injuries?

I've heard rumblings that there's some chemistry issues in that locker room, maybe a little bit with guys against Towns a little bit because of his effort, maybe a little bit with some of the guys on that bench unhappy with playing time and opportunity. There's issues there and it all, in my opinion, from what I can tell, derives from Thibs with the usage, with the system, with the opportunity.

[recap of Minnesota's minutes distribution in this game]

I just think it's insane....and as long as that continues, you are putting your players at risk health-wise, but you are also I think harming your locker room and team chemistry. I just think it's an utter mess."

Goes on to talk about Deng, Rose, Noah, all the guys who should still have careers now but are totally wasted.

Been saying this for years. People went rabid on me a couple years back when I said Thibs is not a highest-tier NBA head coach.
Just listened to this and was about to post. Completely agree with him.
 
Tyus Jones was playing 38+ minutes a game when Teague was out.

Now that Teague is back, it's down to 12 a game.

No reason for him not to be playing 25 a night.
 
Mike D does get deserved criticism for that, but his rotations are not nearly as bad as Thibs. He works in much more reasonable minutes among the 8 guys he plays. And yeah Mike really needs to give more players run IMO.


Pringles been going damn near 10 deep with this 7 game winning streak.

It won't last though :smh:
 
Pringles been going damn near 10 deep with this 7 game winning streak.

It won't last though :smh:

The thing is, I just feel it's short sighted because Mike has always had talented players who he just can't find a way to work into the rotation. And those are guys who could step up and contribute after an untimely injury or something that aren't getting comfortable in the system and chemistry with other guys even while you are blowing the doors off teams right now.

With that said I am a big fan of Mike D as a coach, much more than Thibs. And it's a different issue because like nickmaz said the minutes for Mike are much for balanced.
 
Dantoni is from the same school of dumbass as thibs... Dude was playing Kobe 40 minutes a night in his fifteenth season. Exploded the remains of amare's career in NYC too smh.

Based off everything i've seen in response to my earlier post people are talking about numbers falling because of roles. that was never my argument, look at how Love plays now compared to when he was in Minnesota, Bosh when he was in Toronto, Wade Prior to him playing with Bron

Any player willing to play with Lebron doesn't just lose touches or shots, they literally have to change their entire game and where they like to get the ball in order for Lebron to be comfortable. If your best skill is breaking down the defense & getting to the line, guess what you better learn how to slash or your gonna be heavily underused. You got a pretty efficient post game & could create that way, sorry learn how to knock down that corner three or lose your minutes to spot up shooters.

People love to point out the type of players Lebron doesn't have at his disposal, w/o factoring in that his inability to play in different systems and adjust his game to others, forces teams to get rid of players who may have that skill.
 
Pringles doesnt need to play his guys for 40 min a night since 90% of Rocket games are blowouts anyway.
 
I guess Pringles has learned from the Kobe incident, Harden is playing the fewest minutes since he's been a Rocket

He still hasn't adjusted enough for my liking with the way he plays the young guys tho.
 
Anyone hear Kevin O'Connor's rant about Thibs from yesterday's podcast?:

"I would fire him today. The dude played an 8-man rotation on a back to back. An 8-man rotation on 3 games in 4 nights for that team. The amount of minutes is a joke. Every study about health and recovery and minutes has just been utterly ignored. It's like denying climate change, that's what it's like, playing these guys for that minutes.

And not only that, it's more than that...yes, you're playing these guys for a ridiculous amount of minutes, but you know what else you're also doing? You're really disrupting the locker room. A lot of the guys in that bench who probably deserve to play, or thought that they have may have been getting opportunity and minutes, especially when there have been injuries?

I've heard rumblings that there's some chemistry issues in that locker room, maybe a little bit with guys against Towns a little bit because of his effort, maybe a little bit with some of the guys on that bench unhappy with playing time and opportunity. There's issues there and it all, in my opinion, from what I can tell, derives from Thibs with the usage, with the system, with the opportunity.

[recap of Minnesota's minutes distribution in this game]

I just think it's insane....and as long as that continues, you are putting your players at risk health-wise, but you are also I think harming your locker room and team chemistry. I just think it's an utter mess."

Goes on to talk about Deng, Rose, Noah, all the guys who should still have careers now but are totally wasted.

Been saying this for years. People went rabid on me a couple years back when I said Thibs is not a highest-tier NBA head coach.
Doc and Thibs need to bring the band back together. Both haven't done jack since they broke up. Perfect complement to each other.
 
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