OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Which Kobe was better

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    Votes: 29 49.2%
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    Votes: 30 50.8%

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Famb if you keep up with this thread you would know that I thought Kawhi should've been MVP because of his combination of counting stats, all world defense and winning 60 games without an Allstar.


Westbrook should've finished no higher than 3rd.

Lebron carrying that team to 50 wins while maintaining elite efficiency was out this world.

LBJ eFG% & TS - .515 & .568
RW eFG & TS - .476 & 554

LBJ Per 28.1
RW Per 30.6

Yet one had out of this world efficiency & the other is a stat chasing chucker :lol:
 
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Durant was really hiding from Boogie :lol:



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Dude holding on to that door for dear life
 
How can the best player on a 62 WIN TEAM be the worst MVP ever :lol: :lol:

other people had valid cases but he surely deserved it.
i would've had dwight/bron over him. rose wasn't better than them individually as a player nor advanced stats wise (WS/RPM/VORP). all good tho, cause i think that year bron ****ed him in the playoffs.

i ain't say he didn't deserve it (best player on team with best record, i get it), i just think he's the worst one to win it. player-quality wise, he's below all the other recent MVPs and maybe in history. had a special season. but defense was the main reason for their 62 win season, and we all know his defense was and still is trash.

i agree with everything @100027 said. i guess you can look at it two ways though. worst MVP as in worst player or worst MVP as in least deserving. i think rose is probably a lock in the first category, though i'd have to check the full list of MVPs. less so the second category.
 
Lol boogie picking on Durant is like someone picking on their lil cousin b. What are you really trying to prove? Lose lose situation IMO.

Why boogie silent af when he's around zbo? no heart having mf.
 
boogie all talk. dude is so polite when zbo talking ish to him but want to act like a bad *** when soft or smaller dudes be in his grill.
 
The MVP don't go like that my man. Last years westbrook didn't compete against 2006 Lebron.

You just gonna sidestep you saying Bron had an out of this world efficiency that year & ignore that Russ (who people claim was inefficient last year) was 1% off in TS% ?

Or that your claiming Lebron deserved the MVP despite Nash carried his team to an elite offense, put up elite numbers on elite shooting percentages & way lower usage? Yet these are the same metrics people use to say Harden deseved it more than Westbrook last year?

I'm just confused in the lack of consistency.
 
No way in hell did LeBron deserve an MVP over Nash back then. You my dude hardens Beard but nah that's wild.
Nash deserved those mvps... Stats don't tell the whole story and never have, there's more to ball then stats.
 
You just gonna sidestep you saying Bron had an out of this world efficiency that year & ignore that Russ (who people claim was inefficient last year) was 1% off in TS% ?

Or that your claiming Lebron deserved the MVP despite Nash carried his team to an elite offense, put up elite numbers on elite shooting percentages & way lower usage? Yet these are the same metrics people use to say Harden deseved it more than Westbrook last year?

I'm just confused in the lack of consistency.




First of all I'm in favor of using TS. Second of of all you need to figure out what his TS in relation to the league averages at the time.

No way you can compare an eras when Pringles suns would've been near the bottom in pace.

Westbrook beat out harden for MVP due to 1.9 rebounds. In which Westbrook clearly was stat padding to achieve a triple double.

Harden had him beat on efficiency and record. But was marginally behind in counting stats.

Nash had Lebron beat in efficiency and winning record but Lebron's counting stats were much bigger.
 
Lol at the amount of vitriol still present for Bestbrook winning MVP last year. Really messed y'all up huh?
 
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