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I swear to God if we draft Joe Alexander I will burn down the Garden.
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I swear to God if we draft Joe Alexander I will burn down the Garden.
I'll bring the gasoline.
6. Knicks - This is one that nobody can figure out...But things I do know: Westbrook will not be the pick, Gallinari isnt looking like it either. To me its looking like Eric Gordon, Joel Alexander or they will trade down.
1) Thank God.
2) Thank God.
3 or 4)
5) Hope So.
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Im with you....they need to trade the pick (Either up or down)
The Knicks should package that pick with Randolph and try to move his contract.
They also have said that if Love somehow slips to them they would pick him...I know you guys probably hate to hear that
The Knicks should package that pick with Randolph and try to move his contract.
They also have said that if Love somehow slips to them they would pick him...I know you guys probably hate to hear that
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Earl Barron better be ready to give up that #30, if he is even on the team next year
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SOMEBODY IS GOING TO MAKE A BAD PICK...it happens every year..who could it be this year???? i'm looking at Minny or New York!!
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They also have said that if Love somehow slips to them they would pick him...I know you guys probably hate to hear that
Not so much..
If the choices are him or..
Westbrook, Alexander, Gordon and the Italian.
I'd prefer Love. I'm not a fan of the hype he got or still gets and the whole outlet pass thing is ridiculous, but I do like his game. He's solid.
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Love wouldn't be a bad fit in D'antoni's system since he can start the fast break with his outlet passes off of rebounds
. And he does have range. Only thing that worries me about him is his size.
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The size thing is going too far in the NBA...
People...6-8/6-9 is not small. One inch or two inches @ 6-10/6-11 does not make a guy a better basketball player at the end of the day
People...6-8/6-9 is not small. One inch or two inches @ 6-10/6-11 does not make a guy a better basketball player at the end of the day
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Can someone fill me in as to why Minny would pick Love?? Big Al can't play center
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If this goes down Thursday night...
I'll be providing some good entertainment.
I hate that %+%#%***%$+%. More than Hansbrough, more than Harangody. I hate that piece of #%*@.
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He pretty much is right now...and managing.
tmukg21
Banned
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Mayo shoots and defends better than rose right now, i watched every tv game of both and every home game of rose. at msg game last november, Mayo played muchbetter. Mayo is always in attack mode whereas rose knows his athleticism will get him by. No way Rose wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than Mayo. some peoplerose's potential rather than admitting Mayo is better right now.
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Rose is a better basketball player right now. Come the end of the year, I don't see how that was debatable.
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Rumors have begun swirling that the Heat would consider trading Chicago native Dwyane Wade to the Bulls for the first pick in the draft, plus Tyrus Thomas andLarry Hughes. Miami has the second selection, so such a trade could land the Heat the two top prospects in Memphis guard Derrick Rose and Kansas State forwardMichael Beasley. Look for the Timberwolves to select UCLA forward Kevin Love with the third pick. Boston Globe
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One GM cautions that Texas A&M center DeAndre Jordan (7-0, 260) is so lacking in skills, he could drop out of the first round. That probably won'thappen, though, because he is very athletic.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19793355&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46370&rfi=6
not looking good for jordan...
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19793355&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46370&rfi=6
not looking good for jordan...
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I was kinda hoping the Celtics would look in this, just because I really like the dude's game, not because I feel like they need him or anythinglol
But as someone else noted, he probably has a deal with some team, otherwise he might not consider coming out.
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Why everybody keep bringing up that MSG game? Dude shot 6-20. That is NOT a good thing.
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Rose was on a top 5 team all year long where as mayo was the man on a decant at best team and you saw every game that mayo played explain when he playedwashington state
and the last two games against ucla
and the last two games against ucla
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because he is very athletic.
He really isn't athletic as once perceived. Best thing he has goin right now is his age and size.
I've never liked Bill Walker, and wouldn't touch him with a first round pick with injury concerns.
Arizona point guard Jerryd Bayless reportedly made 30 consecutive 3-pointers during a recent workout.
...If the Knicks can't get him, I'd like Seattle totake him.
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DEERFIELD, Ill. -- Derrick Rose has cried afterlosing an AAU game. Not just once, but multiple times.
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Derrick Rose's winning mentality and work ethic make him a special prospect in the NBA draft.
An AAU game? Are you serious? There's usually another game in a few hours, and no one pays much attention to an AAU team's win-loss record.
But once John Calipari saw Rose tear up after an AAU loss, the Memphis coach knew right then that Rose was a player he wanted.
"What turned it for me was when I saw him cry after an AAU loss and the other dudes were racing to get to McDonald's," Calipari said."This kid was crushed by losing."
Rose wasn't being immature. He cared. Maybe too much, but Calipari would take that passion in a second.
"I just hate losing, and I know on the next level I'll have to get used to it [and] hopefully I won't tear up more at the next level,"Rose said after his workout for his hometown Chicago Bulls Thursday morning. "I'mreally competitive. If people say I can't shoot, then in a drill I'll try to outshoot them. I just hate losing. No matter what it is, I'll do it towin. Winning is the goal for me."
Rose's brother, Reggie, said Calipari has already warned the point guard that he may lose more games in the first few weeks of the NBA season than hedid in his four years in high school and his two-loss season at Memphis.
"It's all true," Reggie Rose said of Derrick's crying. "He hates to lose. Cal was clear that he can't lock himself in his roomwhen they lose."
Calipari doesn't mince words about how much of a difference Rose's winning mentality changed the culture of the Tigers' program. Memphis went totwo straight Elite Eights prior to Rose's arrival. Memphis went to the national title game with him, and the Tigers were potentially 17 feet -- a missedtwo-footer against Tennessee and a missed 15-foot free throw against Kansas in the title game -- from a perfect 40-0 season.
"What I like most about Derrick Rose is that when the lights are on, he takes his game to a different level," said UCLA coach Ben Howland."The significance of the game raises his game to a higher level. He's a big-game, big-time, lights-on guy. That's when he shines best. Those guysare few and far between. Every big game he played, our game, Texas, he was phenomenal."
It's easy to look at Rose as the next Chris Paul or Deron Williams, two point guards who changed their franchises in New Orleans and Utah,respectively. But Calipari compared Rose to Sam Cassell, saying that Rose is the typeof winner Cassell has become at the age of 38, still contributing to a championship with Boston years after winning two titles in Houston.
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Rose raised his game to another level in the NCAA tournament, averaging 20.8 points, 6.0 assists and 6.5 rebounds.
That winning mentality makes Rose a special prospect, Calipari said.
"Barring injury, he's your point guard the next 15 years," Calipari said. "If you can get one like him, you do it."
Calipari said Rose came to an established team, but after a month or two, he didn't just run the Tigers, he dragged them along.
"He's a guy who chases greatness," Calipari said. "You have to have the habits and the work ethic to truly chase it. Hedoes."
Rose proved his maturity and leadership abilities after Memphis' regular-season loss to Tennessee, the team's only regular-season lossof the season. The freshman was one of only a few Tigers who talked to the media after the game. While veterans Chris Douglas-Roberts and Joey Dorsey hid their faces in the locker room, Rose faced thedefeat head-on. From that point on, Rose decided to dominate his position.
And his game wasn't the same after that.
Rose had his scoring moments, like putting up 23 points in 25 minutes in a win at Southern Miss. But he also played the true point with 11 assists and justtwo turnovers in a win over UAB.
He also averaged 20.8 points, 6.0 assists and 6.5 rebounds in six NCAA tournament games. He dominated head-to-head matchups against top point guards likeTexas' .J. Augustin and UCLA's Darren Collison.
"It was win, win, win, win, and when the [NCAA] tournament came, Derrick was going to be the best player at his position," Reggie Rose said."It just so happens that the other young players lost earlier in the tournament [like Michael Beasley of Kansas State, Eric Gordon of Indiana, Jerryd Bayless of Arizona, O.J. Mayo of USC] and that's why the spotlight was onhim."
The wow factor for Rose was endless.
"I just knew that I had to put the team on my shoulders," Rose said. "I had to run the team."
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Rose admits he wants to play for the Bulls, but will he get his wish?
The one blemish that Rose can't forget came against Kansas in the title game. He missed a free throw with 10 seconds left in regulation. If he madethe free throw, Memphis would have had a four-point lead. Instead, with a three-point lead, Kansas' Mario Chalmers hit a game-tying 3-pointer with 2.1 secondsleft.
Following the title game, Rose was crying, hugging Reggie and spiritual advisor Jesse Jackson outside the Memphis locker room.
"He's his ownworst critic and he internalizes his game, and if he makes a mistake, it takes a while for him to get over it," Calipari said.
Despite the one miss, Rose and Reggie say he must be blessed.
The Bulls were slated to get the ninth pick in the NBA draft and had a 1.7 percent chance of landing at No. 1. Rose said he was signing with his agents, ArnTellem and B.J. Armstrong in Los Angeles on May 20, the day of the draft lottery. He said Tellem asked him who he wanted to play for.
"Of course I said the Bulls, and everyone was laughing because they said it's not going to happen," Rose said. "Then it was just crazy.It was like one in a thousand, and they got the pick. God must have had something to do with it."
The Bulls have a tough choice to make between Rose and Beasley. But the one thing they won't have to worry about if they choose Rose is his commitmentto the game.
"He's not doing this so he can be on MTV to show his crib," Calipari said. "That's not this kid. He doesn't need someone to say,'Hey, look what's in my refrigerator.' He's driven like Tiger Woods. He's got it. He's unique like that."
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It's the same reason I prefer Bayless over OJ too...I saw leaders and great competitors in Rose and Bayless, didn't see it in OJ, as of yet.
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Derrick Rose's winning mentality and work ethic make him a special prospect in the NBA draft.
An AAU game? Are you serious? There's usually another game in a few hours, and no one pays much attention to an AAU team's win-loss record.
But once John Calipari saw Rose tear up after an AAU loss, the Memphis coach knew right then that Rose was a player he wanted.
"What turned it for me was when I saw him cry after an AAU loss and the other dudes were racing to get to McDonald's," Calipari said."This kid was crushed by losing."
Rose wasn't being immature. He cared. Maybe too much, but Calipari would take that passion in a second.
"I just hate losing, and I know on the next level I'll have to get used to it [and] hopefully I won't tear up more at the next level,"Rose said after his workout for his hometown Chicago Bulls Thursday morning. "I'mreally competitive. If people say I can't shoot, then in a drill I'll try to outshoot them. I just hate losing. No matter what it is, I'll do it towin. Winning is the goal for me."
Rose's brother, Reggie, said Calipari has already warned the point guard that he may lose more games in the first few weeks of the NBA season than hedid in his four years in high school and his two-loss season at Memphis.
"It's all true," Reggie Rose said of Derrick's crying. "He hates to lose. Cal was clear that he can't lock himself in his roomwhen they lose."
Calipari doesn't mince words about how much of a difference Rose's winning mentality changed the culture of the Tigers' program. Memphis went totwo straight Elite Eights prior to Rose's arrival. Memphis went to the national title game with him, and the Tigers were potentially 17 feet -- a missedtwo-footer against Tennessee and a missed 15-foot free throw against Kansas in the title game -- from a perfect 40-0 season.
"What I like most about Derrick Rose is that when the lights are on, he takes his game to a different level," said UCLA coach Ben Howland."The significance of the game raises his game to a higher level. He's a big-game, big-time, lights-on guy. That's when he shines best. Those guysare few and far between. Every big game he played, our game, Texas, he was phenomenal."
It's easy to look at Rose as the next Chris Paul or Deron Williams, two point guards who changed their franchises in New Orleans and Utah,respectively. But Calipari compared Rose to Sam Cassell, saying that Rose is the typeof winner Cassell has become at the age of 38, still contributing to a championship with Boston years after winning two titles in Houston.
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Ronald Martinez/Getty Images
Rose raised his game to another level in the NCAA tournament, averaging 20.8 points, 6.0 assists and 6.5 rebounds.
That winning mentality makes Rose a special prospect, Calipari said.
"Barring injury, he's your point guard the next 15 years," Calipari said. "If you can get one like him, you do it."
Calipari said Rose came to an established team, but after a month or two, he didn't just run the Tigers, he dragged them along.
"He's a guy who chases greatness," Calipari said. "You have to have the habits and the work ethic to truly chase it. Hedoes."
Rose proved his maturity and leadership abilities after Memphis' regular-season loss to Tennessee, the team's only regular-season lossof the season. The freshman was one of only a few Tigers who talked to the media after the game. While veterans Chris Douglas-Roberts and Joey Dorsey hid their faces in the locker room, Rose faced thedefeat head-on. From that point on, Rose decided to dominate his position.
And his game wasn't the same after that.
Rose had his scoring moments, like putting up 23 points in 25 minutes in a win at Southern Miss. But he also played the true point with 11 assists and justtwo turnovers in a win over UAB.
He also averaged 20.8 points, 6.0 assists and 6.5 rebounds in six NCAA tournament games. He dominated head-to-head matchups against top point guards likeTexas' .J. Augustin and UCLA's Darren Collison.
"It was win, win, win, win, and when the [NCAA] tournament came, Derrick was going to be the best player at his position," Reggie Rose said."It just so happens that the other young players lost earlier in the tournament [like Michael Beasley of Kansas State, Eric Gordon of Indiana, Jerryd Bayless of Arizona, O.J. Mayo of USC] and that's why the spotlight was onhim."
The wow factor for Rose was endless.
"I just knew that I had to put the team on my shoulders," Rose said. "I had to run the team."
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Bob Donnan/US Presswire
Rose admits he wants to play for the Bulls, but will he get his wish?
The one blemish that Rose can't forget came against Kansas in the title game. He missed a free throw with 10 seconds left in regulation. If he madethe free throw, Memphis would have had a four-point lead. Instead, with a three-point lead, Kansas' Mario Chalmers hit a game-tying 3-pointer with 2.1 secondsleft.
Following the title game, Rose was crying, hugging Reggie and spiritual advisor Jesse Jackson outside the Memphis locker room.
"He's his ownworst critic and he internalizes his game, and if he makes a mistake, it takes a while for him to get over it," Calipari said.
Despite the one miss, Rose and Reggie say he must be blessed.
The Bulls were slated to get the ninth pick in the NBA draft and had a 1.7 percent chance of landing at No. 1. Rose said he was signing with his agents, ArnTellem and B.J. Armstrong in Los Angeles on May 20, the day of the draft lottery. He said Tellem asked him who he wanted to play for.
"Of course I said the Bulls, and everyone was laughing because they said it's not going to happen," Rose said. "Then it was just crazy.It was like one in a thousand, and they got the pick. God must have had something to do with it."
The Bulls have a tough choice to make between Rose and Beasley. But the one thing they won't have to worry about if they choose Rose is his commitmentto the game.
"He's not doing this so he can be on MTV to show his crib," Calipari said. "That's not this kid. He doesn't need someone to say,'Hey, look what's in my refrigerator.' He's driven like Tiger Woods. He's got it. He's unique like that."
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It's the same reason I prefer Bayless over OJ too...I saw leaders and great competitors in Rose and Bayless, didn't see it in OJ, as of yet.
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Rose proved his maturity and leadership abilities after Memphis' regular-season loss to Tennessee, the team's only regular-season loss of the season. The freshman was one of only a few Tigers who talked to the media after the game. While veterans Chris Douglas-Roberts and Joey Dorsey hid their faces in the locker room, Rose faced the defeat head-on. From that point on, Rose decided to dominate his position.
I lost a lot of respect for Joey and CDR after that....
