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All I was saying was, because Kobe dominates the ball and is the main cog/facciliator in the offesnse, sure, good numbers, but it's nothing to really 'wow' at.
For a guy who is relied on to take over when needed, and normally doesn't rack up 8 assists a game, it should be praised at least.
A guy like Lebron dominates the ball from tip off the the last buzzer, he SHOULD be racking up those assist numbers. He is an excellent passer though.
Not sure what we are arguing about though, Kobe one game away from getting that ring, all I care about.
Long Beach Vincey:
Crazy good.
Originally Posted by franchise3
Also I'm not complaining about anything.
I was just pointing out stuff.
Complaining is crying for a Kobe offensive foul, or overlooking how many FT's the Magic shot in the 4th.
I didn't do that.
Well franchise his passing IS being overlooked. I mean he's had 25 and 8 the last what 5 or 6 games? And we are here talking about the shotshe missed and that he doesn't trust his teammates. Yet when Bron has the EXACT same game...it's somehow an indicator of him being a better team player.Basically Kobe can't do anything right to get the proper respect. Obviously he dominated the ball he's Kobe friggin Bryant, what team in their rightmind doesn't want the best player having the ball in his hands. It was ok when Jordan did it...it's ok when Bron does it...but Kobe...naw nothing towow at. Well I can say the same of Bron...but then I'm a hater and/or a Kobe "stan". Ridiculous. We focus on him missing 3 shots inovertime...yet completely overlook the fact that he made 2, the last of which gave them the lead, and had an assist. Essentially accounting for half of theirOT points...yet he almost lost them the game? Sure he took some dumb shots but he also made pivotal plays, as he had in EVERY single game this series. The wayI see it is he's doing the exact thing that most haters say he can't on the biggest stage of the season, yet if Bron was doing the exact same thing inthe exact same position it would be ok. So if you are gonna call it like that call it both ways. Plus it's not like anyone is consistently showing up likehim in the first place. Especially not Gasol. So now my question is why is it so hard to admit...hey Kobe is a team playerOriginally Posted by franchise3
I was responding to the guy who posted above me saying that Kobe's passing was getting overlooked.
All I was saying was, because Kobe dominates the ball and is the main cog/facciliator in the offesnse, sure, good numbers, but it's nothing to really 'wow' at.
Considering the type of games he had, and IMO was playing too much one on five bball last night that almost cost them the game.
Today we're talking about his 'overlooked' passing abilities, when we really could be talking about all the missed FG's, where his 8 assists wouldn't matter, had they lost.
A win is a win for sure, and Kobe is putting up numbers.
Originally Posted by franchise3
No doubt up 3-1 is all that matters, and Kobe, no matter what he says is gonna get that 'never won one without Shaq' monkey off his back.
Kobe's numbers should be praised, at the very core, basically, all I'm saying is a win clouds over a lot of stuff we could be talking about had they lost. Just like nobody cares about the numbers Dwight put up. Missed FT's are gonna be the talk. Of course a win should do that though.
The real question is, do the Lakers coast and come back to LA, or put the hammer down and win in Orlando? It's the only thing to really talk about now.smh
beautiful pass...definitely was expecting itOriginally Posted by pdoggy85
Originally Posted by dreClark
Has anyone made a .gif of Kobe's spin and dish?
That was such a sick play.
This guy... i have never seen you in any ANY other basketball thread until the finals **** you thought pau name was paul and didnt know the finalsformat.Originally Posted by Guerrilla Warfare
Kobe elbowed nelson rite in front of the ref's & they didn't call an offensive foul...
The nba is %$#@! rigged...
Originally Posted by CP1708
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Lebron has the ball in his hands every single possesion 1st thru 4th quarters. He gets 8 assists and it's the be all end all, Kobe gets 8 and they're overblown?
Can I get a ruling on that?
Sweet, just what I needed, a Bron groupie to play with.Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
Originally Posted by CP1708
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Lebron has the ball in his hands every single possesion 1st thru 4th quarters. He gets 8 assists and it's the be all end all, Kobe gets 8 and they're overblown?
Can I get a ruling on that?
Can I get a ruling on how when someone calls LeBron a better passer because he consistently averaged more assists than Kobe throughout his career (even as a 19 year-old rookie and even when they played on Team USA on the same team) he gets a lecture on how stats don't tell everything, but now when Kobe averages 8 assists, stats suddenly matter?
And the reason why LeBron gets extra credit for his assists is because he's what, 6'8-6'9. Noone in the NBA who is LeBron's heighs is even remotely close to his assists numbers. Hedo Turkoglu who is 6'10 and averages 4.9 assists comes closest and he's still 2.4 assists behind LeBron.
And Kobe doesn't hold the ball all the time? I'll just say that if Kobe is able to average 28 shots per game like he is these finals without holding the ball all the time, it would look worse than if he averaged 28 shots while he was holding the ball all the time.
Originally Posted by Bigmike23
the same idiot always hating on kobe and bringing up Bron and throwing out dumb +!@%
Originally Posted by CP1708
Xtapolapacetl wrote:
CP1708 wrote:
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Lebron has the ball in his hands every single possesion 1st thru 4th quarters. He gets 8 assists and it's the be all end all, Kobe gets 8 and they're overblown?
Can I get a ruling on that?
Originally Posted by Bigmike23
the same idiot always hating on kobe and bringing up Bron and throwing out dumb $+%%
DAYTONA 5000 wrote:
Man y'all like to argue about the dumbest things.
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
CP1708 wrote:
Xtapolapacetl wrote:
CP1708 wrote:
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Lebron has the ball in his hands every single possesion 1st thru 4th quarters. He gets 8 assists and it's the be all end all, Kobe gets 8 and they're overblown?
Can I get a ruling on that?
He's right Mike, it was my bad.Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
Originally Posted by Bigmike23
the same idiot always hating on kobe and bringing up Bron and throwing out dumb $+%%
Check the facts my non-idiotic friend. Go and see who "brought up" LeBron.@ the hate for LeBron on this forum. Apparently, to not be regarded as an idiot, you're not allowed to post a response on the subject of LeBron even if someone else brought him up.
Originally Posted by JsindaA
uh....how does three inches play into this???? I'm genuinely confused