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gon end up playing scrabble for draft position.
Official NBA OFF-SEASON Thread - 2011: Free Agency Dec. 9th
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[h1]Kobe undergoes extreme knee makeover[/h1]
Lakers guard Kobe Bryant has taken an unusual step to try to strengthen his ailing right knee, undergoing an innovative procedure in Germany about a month ago, according to four people familiar with the situation who were not authorized to speak publicly.
The treatment is called platelet-rich plasma therapy. PRP procedures are less invasive than many surgeries involving the knee and are genreviewed as either an emerging solution to knee problems or a financial gamble on unproven science.
Bryant, who turns 33 next month, has been bothered in recent seasons by an arthritic joint in his right knee. He has undergone three other knee procedures since 2003, including surgery last July to remove unspecified loose bodies.
He sat out an overwhelming majority of the Lakers' practices this past season and saw his scoring, shooting percentage and minutes decrease in his 15th NBA season. He has three years and $83.5 million left on his contract with the Lakers.
Bryant declined through a representative to comment for this story, but after the Lakers were eliminated by Dallas in the playoffs, he spoke of the need to "train and get strong" during the off-season.
"Last year I had [knee] surgery," Bryant said in May. "The year before that, we played deep into June so I didn't have a chance to grind like I would like to, but this summer I have that chance."
Regarding his knee, he added that "there's another level that I feel like I can get to." He did not specifically mention PRP.
The PRP procedure is fairly simple and takes about an hour. A small amount of blood is drawn from the patient's arm and spun in a centrifuge for about 20 minutes to isolate platelets. With guidance from ultrasound, the platelets are then injected into the injured area to try to stimulate tissue repair.
Athletes often begin rehabilitation about a week after the procedure, and it sometimes takes six to eight weeks to fully determine the benefit, said Steven Sampson, a clinical instructor of medicine at UCLA and the founder of the Orthohealing Center in Los Angeles.
"It's definitely not a prolonged recovery," Sampson said. "The beauty of the PRP is we don't restrict activity. We want blood flow."
If patients feel pain in the area, they are told to reduce their rehabilitation workload or rest for an established time.
But do PRP procedures really work? The consensus is that more long-term research needs to be done.
"Right now, the data is immature," said Allan Mishra, an orthopedic surgeon who administers PRP treatments and is an adjunct professor of orthopedic surgery at Stanford University Medical Center. "There is a lot of cool stuff going on, but I temper that by saying we have a lot more work to do before it is definitive."
The procedure isn't close to mainstream but is becoming more common and might take another two to four years to fully validate, Mishra said.
"The interesting part is that it's not super complicated," he said. "It's really only your own blood taken out of a vein and prepared right in front of you and then put back in an area of your condition. So the concept is to try and use within your own body to help heal yourself. This is an opportunity to really take advantage of the body's own natural ability."
In addition to Bryant, tennis star Rafael Nadal, golfer Tiger Woods and Pittsburgh Steelers receiver Hines Ward reportedly have undergone PRP treatments for their knees.
Other NBA players also experimented with PRP last season, including reserve Golden State guard Acie Law on his wrist and Portland guard Brandon Roy on his hamstring.
The World Anti-Doping Agency and US Anti-Doping Agency debated in recent years whether PRP led to unfair athletic enhancement, but both entities determined last year it was fair for Olympic competition if it wasn't mixed with human-growth hormone (HGH) or insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1).
"What we're hearing from our athletes is that it's not demonstrated that it enhances performance at all," said Travis Tygart, chief executive of USADA. "If you get PRP with HGH added to it, yeah, no question, but that is prohibited. As the [PRP] technique started gaining some traction over the last two or three years in athlete circles and among doctors that treat athletes, those doing it without HGH and IGF-1 weren't seeing the same benefits. There wasn't enough evidence that PRP by itself was proving enough enhancement to make it unfair."
After the Lakers were eliminated in the playoffs, Bryant, who'd heard plenty about his supposedly declining skills, said there was something that would motivate him in the off-season.
"What I think about is shutting up those [people] saying that I'm done," he said.
http://www.foxsportswest....D=536159&feedID=3707
I'm no medical expert, but this procedure doesn't seem to involve much risk. Having said that, you gotta admire a guy for leaving no stone unturned.@ managing to keep this under wraps for a month in this day and age.
- Nov 18, 2010
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[h1]Kobe undergoes extreme knee makeover[/h1]
Lakers guard Kobe Bryant has taken an unusual step to try to strengthen his ailing right knee, undergoing an innovative procedure in Germany about a month ago, according to four people familiar with the situation who were not authorized to speak publicly.
The treatment is called platelet-rich plasma therapy. PRP procedures are less invasive than many surgeries involving the knee and are genreviewed as either an emerging solution to knee problems or a financial gamble on unproven science.
Bryant, who turns 33 next month, has been bothered in recent seasons by an arthritic joint in his right knee. He has undergone three other knee procedures since 2003, including surgery last July to remove unspecified loose bodies.
He sat out an overwhelming majority of the Lakers' practices this past season and saw his scoring, shooting percentage and minutes decrease in his 15th NBA season. He has three years and $83.5 million left on his contract with the Lakers.
Bryant declined through a representative to comment for this story, but after the Lakers were eliminated by Dallas in the playoffs, he spoke of the need to "train and get strong" during the off-season.
"Last year I had [knee] surgery," Bryant said in May. "The year before that, we played deep into June so I didn't have a chance to grind like I would like to, but this summer I have that chance."
Regarding his knee, he added that "there's another level that I feel like I can get to." He did not specifically mention PRP.
The PRP procedure is fairly simple and takes about an hour. A small amount of blood is drawn from the patient's arm and spun in a centrifuge for about 20 minutes to isolate platelets. With guidance from ultrasound, the platelets are then injected into the injured area to try to stimulate tissue repair.
Athletes often begin rehabilitation about a week after the procedure, and it sometimes takes six to eight weeks to fully determine the benefit, said Steven Sampson, a clinical instructor of medicine at UCLA and the founder of the Orthohealing Center in Los Angeles.
"It's definitely not a prolonged recovery," Sampson said. "The beauty of the PRP is we don't restrict activity. We want blood flow."
If patients feel pain in the area, they are told to reduce their rehabilitation workload or rest for an established time.
But do PRP procedures really work? The consensus is that more long-term research needs to be done.
"Right now, the data is immature," said Allan Mishra, an orthopedic surgeon who administers PRP treatments and is an adjunct professor of orthopedic surgery at Stanford University Medical Center. "There is a lot of cool stuff going on, but I temper that by saying we have a lot more work to do before it is definitive."
The procedure isn't close to mainstream but is becoming more common and might take another two to four years to fully validate, Mishra said.
"The interesting part is that it's not super complicated," he said. "It's really only your own blood taken out of a vein and prepared right in front of you and then put back in an area of your condition. So the concept is to try and use within your own body to help heal yourself. This is an opportunity to really take advantage of the body's own natural ability."
In addition to Bryant, tennis star Rafael Nadal, golfer Tiger Woods and Pittsburgh Steelers receiver Hines Ward reportedly have undergone PRP treatments for their knees.
Other NBA players also experimented with PRP last season, including reserve Golden State guard Acie Law on his wrist and Portland guard Brandon Roy on his hamstring.
The World Anti-Doping Agency and US Anti-Doping Agency debated in recent years whether PRP led to unfair athletic enhancement, but both entities determined last year it was fair for Olympic competition if it wasn't mixed with human-growth hormone (HGH) or insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1).
"What we're hearing from our athletes is that it's not demonstrated that it enhances performance at all," said Travis Tygart, chief executive of USADA. "If you get PRP with HGH added to it, yeah, no question, but that is prohibited. As the [PRP] technique started gaining some traction over the last two or three years in athlete circles and among doctors that treat athletes, those doing it without HGH and IGF-1 weren't seeing the same benefits. There wasn't enough evidence that PRP by itself was proving enough enhancement to make it unfair."
After the Lakers were eliminated in the playoffs, Bryant, who'd heard plenty about his supposedly declining skills, said there was something that would motivate him in the off-season.
"What I think about is shutting up those [people] saying that I'm done," he said.
http://www.foxsportswest....D=536159&feedID=3707
I'm no medical expert, but this procedure doesn't seem to involve much risk. Having said that, you gotta admire a guy for leaving no stone unturned.@ managing to keep this under wraps for a month in this day and age.
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There was an article about Kobe doing some new type of freezing therapy in Germany about 3 weeks ago or so.
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There was an article about Kobe doing some new type of freezing therapy in Germany about 3 weeks ago or so.
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May as well get creative with trying to fix his knee during this stinking lock out
Hope he recovers well tho! I miss his explosiveness
Hope he recovers well tho! I miss his explosiveness
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May as well get creative with trying to fix his knee during this stinking lock out
Hope he recovers well tho! I miss his explosiveness
Hope he recovers well tho! I miss his explosiveness
- Jul 5, 2002
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This is pretty much how I feel as well. Funny but this past season was the first time that I really felt like the regular season was meaningless...which is why part of me doesn't really care if this lockout results in missed games. I do feel bad for those people who work at the stadiums like the vendors, etc who might possibly lose wages. I wish there was someway for those innocent people to be compensated. The players and owners knew for 2 years that this day was coming and they definitely had the means to prepare, no way these regular folks could do the same.
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This is pretty much how I feel as well. Funny but this past season was the first time that I really felt like the regular season was meaningless...which is why part of me doesn't really care if this lockout results in missed games. I do feel bad for those people who work at the stadiums like the vendors, etc who might possibly lose wages. I wish there was someway for those innocent people to be compensated. The players and owners knew for 2 years that this day was coming and they definitely had the means to prepare, no way these regular folks could do the same.
- Mar 3, 2006
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These WNBA commercials are disgusting.
Sick to my stomach.
And then they had the Gatorade commercial, I never thought I'd miss Durant so much,
Sick to my stomach.
And then they had the Gatorade commercial, I never thought I'd miss Durant so much,
- Mar 3, 2006
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These WNBA commercials are disgusting.
Sick to my stomach.
And then they had the Gatorade commercial, I never thought I'd miss Durant so much,
Sick to my stomach.
And then they had the Gatorade commercial, I never thought I'd miss Durant so much,
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Originally Posted by VABigPoppa
just a heads up, nba.com will be getting a refresh tonight since they arent allowed to show content with current players during the lockout. same goes for NBATV, i heard today they were trying to get the greenlight to show basketball movies like teen wolf to fill the time
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Originally Posted by VABigPoppa
just a heads up, nba.com will be getting a refresh tonight since they arent allowed to show content with current players during the lockout. same goes for NBATV, i heard today they were trying to get the greenlight to show basketball movies like teen wolf to fill the time
- Sep 1, 2007
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This greed is disgusting...I enjoy basketball, so the regular season means plenty to me. Although Reisendorf won't care, if they miss games, I refuse to pay for a ticket next season (if there is one). If I get free tickets, I will not buy anything there.
We as fans need to lockout these leagues and boycott some games. I know it won't happen, but a message needs to be sent from the people that really makeall this work.
We as fans need to lockout these leagues and boycott some games. I know it won't happen, but a message needs to be sent from the people that really makeall this work.
- Sep 1, 2007
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This greed is disgusting...I enjoy basketball, so the regular season means plenty to me. Although Reisendorf won't care, if they miss games, I refuse to pay for a ticket next season (if there is one). If I get free tickets, I will not buy anything there.
We as fans need to lockout these leagues and boycott some games. I know it won't happen, but a message needs to be sent from the people that really makeall this work.
We as fans need to lockout these leagues and boycott some games. I know it won't happen, but a message needs to be sent from the people that really makeall this work.
So lemme see if I got this straight, since there is a lockout, and nothin goin on, the best I could possibly hope for would be for NBATV to show old classic games daily, and instead they will show none of that?
And now youtube vids are disapearing as well?
They doin this @#$% WRONG. You gonna screw over your fans with new games and upcoming season, fine, whatever, argue over your billions, but God damn it, play classic games on your own channel TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY, fill my damn DVR up hoping and praying that I forget what you're doing to me.
@#$%^& stupid idiots these people are. And I don't even care if you can't show games with players of today, fine, so show me games from 92 back. Play entire Finals series for all I care. Jordan rookie year stuff, anything, @#$% you and your Teen Wolf and Hoosiers type mess. The @#$% you think you're kidding with that @#$%?
They doin this @#$% WRONG. You gonna screw over your fans with new games and upcoming season, fine, whatever, argue over your billions, but God damn it, play classic games on your own channel TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY, fill my damn DVR up hoping and praying that I forget what you're doing to me.
@#$%^& stupid idiots these people are. And I don't even care if you can't show games with players of today, fine, so show me games from 92 back. Play entire Finals series for all I care. Jordan rookie year stuff, anything, @#$% you and your Teen Wolf and Hoosiers type mess. The @#$% you think you're kidding with that @#$%?
So lemme see if I got this straight, since there is a lockout, and nothin goin on, the best I could possibly hope for would be for NBATV to show old classic games daily, and instead they will show none of that?
And now youtube vids are disapearing as well?
They doin this @#$% WRONG. You gonna screw over your fans with new games and upcoming season, fine, whatever, argue over your billions, but God damn it, play classic games on your own channel TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY, fill my damn DVR up hoping and praying that I forget what you're doing to me.
@#$%^& stupid idiots these people are. And I don't even care if you can't show games with players of today, fine, so show me games from 92 back. Play entire Finals series for all I care. Jordan rookie year stuff, anything, @#$% you and your Teen Wolf and Hoosiers type mess. The @#$% you think you're kidding with that @#$%?
They doin this @#$% WRONG. You gonna screw over your fans with new games and upcoming season, fine, whatever, argue over your billions, but God damn it, play classic games on your own channel TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY, fill my damn DVR up hoping and praying that I forget what you're doing to me.
@#$%^& stupid idiots these people are. And I don't even care if you can't show games with players of today, fine, so show me games from 92 back. Play entire Finals series for all I care. Jordan rookie year stuff, anything, @#$% you and your Teen Wolf and Hoosiers type mess. The @#$% you think you're kidding with that @#$%?
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Originally Posted by CP1708
@#$% you and your Teen Wolf and Hoosiers type mess. The @#$% you think you're kidding with that @#$%?
- Jan 20, 2006
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Originally Posted by CP1708
@#$% you and your Teen Wolf and Hoosiers type mess. The @#$% you think you're kidding with that @#$%?
- Jul 16, 2002
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I'm still laughing at teen wolf
oh man
oh man
- Jul 16, 2002
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I'm still laughing at teen wolf
oh man
oh man
- Nov 4, 2003
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it's shocking how bad they are going to alienate their own fans. Seriously they should at least show old games all day every day. instead they wanna ban their own fans from watching youtube videos
good plan
good plan
- Nov 4, 2003
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it's shocking how bad they are going to alienate their own fans. Seriously they should at least show old games all day every day. instead they wanna ban their own fans from watching youtube videos
good plan
good plan
