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Hump is underrated as #!%#.
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Meh, what's Chandler going to put up if he were to get huge minutes? Maybe ~18 PPG & 6 RPG? I think you can find that at #7; not immediately, but in the future. And do you really want to pay Chandler $31.5 Million/4-years, especially when you're trying to rebuild?
Wilson is one of my favourite players in the league, but he was absolute buns in the 2011 Playoffs (5 PPG, 4 RPG, .28 FG%), did not play well this past season when he returned to the NBA, and is coming off of hip surgery.
I don't think a Chandler/20th for Wright's expiring $4.1 mill/7th is a smart move for GSW.
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The dude who gets paid like $40 million to play defense down low, Collison, maybe Mohammed (no idea if he is a free agent or whatever), someone they draft with the pick they would get for Ibaka, any random free agent signed for that specific purpose...
So OKC's main objective will be to outscore everyone with all their high-powered weapons? Let's see how that works out for a championship contender.
Still waiting on another name comparable to Serge with all the intangibles I listed...
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Shocked this is coming from you. But I completely agree. Hump is the new Jayson Williams for the Nets. No shotguns please.
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I agree, but you draft talent and trade for need. At #7 there really isnt much instant talent/huge potential available (drummond will be gone).
I also think the Nuggets are a team that turn potential stars (Mcgee, Chandler, Gallo) into mere role players only because that team is so damn deep. Not necessarily a bad thing. But Chandler makes the GSW a playoff team.
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And he will continue to be one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA, so imagine Thabo Sefolosha if he could actually score the ball. Plus he fills a need at the SF spot and brings the defense that the GSW SORELY need
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Humphries is very underrated. But I think the team is done dealing with the Bull%&%& that he brings now.
I like Humphries the Basketball Player. Had my support. But this Celebrity Status crap got the best of him. He reminds me though of David Lee. I think someone will give him 9 mil a year (He got 8 this year) and when he contributes the same, people will cry that they overpaid yet the man is doing what he has done his whole career.
The only knock I have on Hump is he does not play man defense. He gets stunning blocks, yes, but watch the tapes of him playing defense, he lets the offensive player role by him in an attempt to get that block. Only thing about him that I can knock. If he shoots that 15ft jumper more consistently as well, he will be what he always has been. I think too it is to get a fire under Brook to rebound. He got extremely lazy with Hump rebounding 15 a game.
I like Humphries the Basketball Player. Had my support. But this Celebrity Status crap got the best of him. He reminds me though of David Lee. I think someone will give him 9 mil a year (He got 8 this year) and when he contributes the same, people will cry that they overpaid yet the man is doing what he has done his whole career.
The only knock I have on Hump is he does not play man defense. He gets stunning blocks, yes, but watch the tapes of him playing defense, he lets the offensive player role by him in an attempt to get that block. Only thing about him that I can knock. If he shoots that 15ft jumper more consistently as well, he will be what he always has been. I think too it is to get a fire under Brook to rebound. He got extremely lazy with Hump rebounding 15 a game.
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So OKC's main objective will be to outscore everyone with all their high-powered weapons?
That was always their main objective
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I don't remember chandler ever being on thabos defensive level. Ever ever.
He's a good solid role player though. good at everything not amazing at anything.
He's a good solid role player though. good at everything not amazing at anything.
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So, imagine Arron Afflalo?
I think Chandler is a solid defender, but I wouldn't rank him up there with the best. And I definitely don't see the addition of Chandler pushing the Warriors into the West Playoffs. But, that's just my opinion--only time will tell, and that's if a trade even goes down.
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He hustles his #!@ off out there. But I think he pads his stats just a little. He will blow an easy layup for the chance to get the offensive rebound and the putback more than 2 or 3 times a game. Which messed up Deron's assist total last year. He could have prolly lead the league in assists if the big men for the Nets didnt blow gimmies like it was their job.
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AllenIverson - bingo. Right on the mark with that.
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I see the Warriors gave up on the draft; trying to trade that #7 for anyone with tattoos or long hair and high socks.
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I hope Warriors gets Barnes
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Anyone post this yet?
RT @DeronWilliams: Just finished playing East Hampton Golf Club w/ @RealJasonKidd let the speculation begin?????
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why isnt this thread stickied? im getting lost every hour trying to find it
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mad im gonna miss the draft tonight
i hope some big trades happen
mad im gonna miss the draft tonight
i hope some big trades happen
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MOCK DRAFT 10.0
NBA Draft 2012
Commentary
Mock Draft, Version 10.0
Updated: June 28, 2012, 12:10 PM ET
By Chad Ford | ESPN.com
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Happy Draft Day. This year, I think the NBA has something really crazy in store for all of us.
Like every year, as of midnight ET a number of teams reported that they were still debating between three or four prospects on their boards. Agents and players are wringing their hands right now. No one knows who's going where.
So, this year's NBA draft should be fun. And the mock draft? It's hard to predict which players teams will select when they haven't decided themselves, but we're going to try. And then try again a little later in the day. And then try again right before the draft.
In other words, check back often for versions 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 as we continue to collect information on who will go where.
After talking to numerous NBA team sources, here's our best stab at how the draft will play out Thursday night.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
New Orleans
Anthony Davis
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 222 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Rejoice, Hornets fans. Players like Davis come along about once or twice a decade. You'll have to be patient with both him and the franchise, but the upside is there for some sort of Tim Duncan/Kevin Garnett hybrid. With plenty of cap room to sign Eric Gordon and another significant free agent, plus the No. 10 pick, the Hornets are building a rock-solid foundation.
Trade Scenarios: Are you kidding me?
Hornets' Big Board (team priorities, according to sources):
1. Anthony Davis
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Charlotte
Thomas Robinson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: The Bobcats need help everywhere. They don't have a starting-caliber player on their roster right now. Robinson will be the first. He's tough, physical and a winner. Remember, he led a very mediocre Kansas team to the national championship game.
Trade Scenarios: There are plenty. The Bobcats' asking price is high. They would love to get their hands on multiple young assets or a young veteran who could be a star. There are two scenarios in particular to watch: (1) The Cavs could offer their two first-round picks -- Nos. 4 and 24 -- for the No. 2 pick; (2) the Thunder could offer James Harden to move into the second spot. In either case, the Cavs or Thunder would select Bradley Beal at No. 2.
Bobcats' Big Board:
1. Trade
2. Thomas Robinson
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Harrison Barnes
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Washington
Bradley Beal
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 202 pounds
Age: 19
School: Florida
Analysis: The Wizards made the first big trade of the offseason, sending Rashard Lewis and the 46th pick to New Orleans for Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza. With the deal, the Wizards essentially upgraded their front court -- Okafor likely will be their starting 5, Nene their starting 4 and Ariza their starting 3.
With John Wall running the point, that leaves them with one big hole at the 2. I think this makes Beal a no-brainer for the Wizards, who are lacking a lights-out perimeter shooter. He's a perfect fit for this new roster.
Trade Scenarios: If the Wizards believe they are in danger of losing Beal to a team moving up in the draft, don't be surprised if they offer the Bobcats the No. 32 pick to move up one spot. The Wizards might also entertain a James Harden offer from the Thunder for Beal. Finally, if Beal is off the board, the Wizards have talked to teams about moving down to Nos. 5, 7, 8 or 9.
Wizards' Big Board:
1. Bradley Beal
2. Harrison Barnes
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Thomas Robinson
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Cleveland
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 233 pounds
Age: 18
School: Kentucky
Analysis: The Cavs need both a starting 2 and a starting 3. This is a toss-up between Kidd-Gilchrist and Barnes. If they choose MKG they get a hard-working winner who can grow with Kyrie Irving. They were teammates in high school and won a state championship together. While Kidd-Gilchrist still needs a lot of polish on his offensive game, his motor, toughness, defensive pedigree and willingness to work on his game make him a great pick for the Cavs.
Trade Scenarios: Ideally, the Cavs would like to move up to the No. 2 spot to grab Beal. If they did that trade, the Bobcats would take Thomas Robinson here. But the price is high and the Cavs might not want to give up the 24th pick. The Cavs have also explored adding a second pick in the 8-to-12 range, according to sources. Dion Waiters and Terrence Ross are both candidates in that range.
Cavs' Big Board:
1. Bradley Beal
2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. Harrison Barnes
4. Dion Waiters
5. Terrence Ross
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Sacramento
Andre Drummond
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 279 pounds
Age: 18
School: UConn
Analysis: The Kings aren't in love with anyone here if this scenario plays out this way. Sources say that the Kings are still confident they'll make a deal with the Rockets (who covet Drummond). If they don't, sources say GM Geoff Petrie is now leaning toward taking Drummond over Barnes. He feels it's a more tradable chip down the road and the team needs a shot-blocker (the one thing Drummond does well now) next to DeMarcus Cousins.
Trade Scenarios: By now the whole world knows the Rockets are aggressively trying to move up and get this pick. Houston's latest offer (Kyle Lowry and the No. 16 pick) was rejected. But you can expect the Rockets to keep plugging away until they get something done. The Rockets aren't the only team trying to get here. The Lakers and Hawks have also tried to convince Sacramento to part with its pick.
Kings' Big Board:
1. Thomas Robinson
2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. Andre Drummond
4. Harrison Barnes
5. John Henson
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Portland (via Nets)
Damian Lillard
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 189 pounds
Age: 21
School: Weber State
Analysis: The Blazers need a point guard and a big man. They'll have an easy choice here if Drummond goes at No. 5. Lillard is a steady, athletic guard who can shoot the lights out and get to the rim. He had a stellar workout in Portland in front of Paul Allen that really sealed the deal.
Trade Scenarios: GM Neil Olshey told Portland reporters on Wednesday night that it's unlikely the team will trade either of its picks at Nos. 6 or 11.
Blazers' Big Board:
1. Damian Lillard
2. Dion Waiters
3. Andre Drummond
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Golden State
Dion Waiters
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 221 pounds
Age: 20
School: Syracuse
Analysis: Still not sure which way this goes, folks. Jerry West is a big fan of Dion Waiters. Owner Joe Lacob isn't sure if they can pass on the size and potential of Andre Drummond, if he doesn't go at No. 5. GM Bob Meyers thinks Harrison Barnes would be a steal here. I usually pick the owner in these types of fights. … Then again, this is Jerry West you're talking about.
If it's Waiters, I think it's a great fit for the Warriors. Both Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson are primarily jump shooters. Adding Waiters to their backcourt gives them a guy who can get to the basket at will. Sort of a Monta Ellis player at a fraction of the price.
Trade Scenarios: The Warriors have discussed moving both up and down in the draft. Here's the most compelling scenario: If Andre Drummond or Lillard falls to No. 7, don't be surprised if the Warriors trade No. 7 to the Rockets for pick Nos. 12 and 18. The Warriors believe there's still a lot of value down there, and the Rockets covet both Drummond and Lillard.
Warriors' Big Board:
1. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
2. Trade
3. Dion Waiters
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Andre Drummond
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Toronto
Harrison Barnes
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 228 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina
Analysis: This is actually Plan B for the Raptors and it's a great one for them. They need shooting and looked at a number of veteran small forwards at this spot. They really like Barnes, and he's a very easy fit for them. This is a home-run scenario for Toronto.
Trade Scenarios: The Raptors have discussed getting a veteran small forward or point guard here. There has been talk that they would like the Rockets' Kyle Lowry, but they want to keep their salary flexibility going into the summer. They've also explored moving up to No. 5 to get their hands on Waiters or Barnes.
Raptors' Big Board:
1. Dion Waiters
2. Harrison Barnes
3. Damian Lillard
4. Austin Rivers
5. Jeremy Lamb
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Detroit
John Henson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 216 pounds
Age: 21
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Pistons, who desperately need size in the middle, are holding their breath that Drummond slides this far. If the Kings don't take him at No. 5, he just might. They like John Henson, too. They need length, athleticism and shot-blocking -- Henson provides all three.
Trade Scenarios: The Pistons have flirted with the idea of moving up to secure Drummond, but it's more likely they stay at No. 9.
Pistons' Big Board:
1. Thomas Robinson
2. Andre Drummond
3. John Henson
4. Tyler Zeller
5. Perry Jones
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
New Orleans
(via Wolves)
Austin Rivers
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke
Analysis: Hornets coach Monty Williams is a fan of Rivers, and Rivers really wants to be in New Orleans. The question is whether he can play alongside Eric Gordon. The Hornets think Rivers can be a point guard at the next level and are willing to try it.
Trade Scenarios: The Hornets tried to move down a few spots and get multiple mid-first-round picks, but so far they've been shut down.
Hornets' Big Board:
1. Damian Lillard
2. Andre Drummond
3. Austin Rivers
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. Kendall Marshall
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Portland
Tyler Zeller
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 247 pounds
Age: 22
School: North Carolina
Analysis: If the Blazers go with a guard at No. 6, don't be surprised if they go big with their other selection. Zeller isn't a sexy pick, but he is capable of playing right now, has solid size for his position and runs the floor well.
Trade Scenarios: See Blazers comment at No. 6.
Blazers' Big Board:
1. Dion Waiters
2. Austin Rivers
3. Tyler Zeller
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. Terrence Ross
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Houston (via Bucks)
Meyers Leonard
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-1
Weight: 250 pounds
Age: 20
School: Illinois
Analysis: The Rockets agreed to trade Samuel Dalembert and the 14th pick to the Milwaukee Bucks for Shaun Livingston, Jon Leuer, Jon Brockman and the 12th pick, a league source told ESPN.com.
I seriously doubt the Rockets will actually be selecting here on draft night. However, if they do, I think they'll take the best big man available. Leonard may be a project, but there's upside here and the team really doesn't have anything in the middle.
Trade Scenarios: The Rockets are trying to package picks 12, 16 and 18 and Kyle Lowry to get multiple top-10 picks to offer to the Magic for Dwight Howard. The Warriors, at No. 7, could be a serious target with this pick.
Rockets' Big Board:
1. Tyler Zeller
2. Meyers Leonard
3. Perry Jones
4. Moe Harkless
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Phoenix
Jeremy Lamb
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 179 pounds
Age: 20
School: UConn
Analysis: The Suns need just about everything, so they can afford to take the best player available. But Lamb hits a sweet spot for them at the 2-guard position. They didn't think he'd be available here and he gives them length and shooting.
Trade Scenarios: It's been pretty quiet in Phoenix.
Suns' Big Board:
1. Dion Waiters
2. Austin Rivers
3. Jeremy Lamb
4. Kendall Marshall
5. Arnett Moultrie
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Milwaukee (via Rockets)
Terrence Ross
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 197 pounds
Age: 21
School: Washington
Analysis: The Bucks have moved down two spots in the draft, but it shouldn't dramatically affect which player they take. In fact, now that they've added Samuel Dalembert, they have more freedom to draft a shooter at the wing positions. Ross worked out for the Bucks on Tuesday, and while I don't think it was a game-changer, they might opt to take him if Tyler Zeller and Lamb are gone.
Trade Scenarios: The Bucks just pulled off a trade to get Dalembert and move down two spots in the draft. Think they're probably done.
Bucks' Big Board:
1. Tyler Zeller
2. Jeremy Lamb
3. Terrence Ross
4. Terrence Jones
5. Meyers Leonard
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Philadelphia
Arnett Moultrie
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 223 pounds
Age: 21
School: Mississippi State
Analysis: The Sixers really need size and rebounding in their front court. Moultrie led the SEC in rebounding and is super bouncy. He also has a solid face-the-basket game. He should be a good fit in Philly.
Trade Scenarios: They've been looking for a spot higher in the first round to nab Terrence Ross.
Sixers' Big Board:
1. Terrence Ross
2. Jeremy Lamb
3. Arnett Moultrie
4. Perry Jones
5. Terrence Jones
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Houston (via Knicks)
Perry Jones III
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 20
School: Baylor
Analysis: Jones might be the toughest player in the draft to project right now. Everyone is both scared to take him and scared not to take him. (I've heard the same assessment from a number of NBA GMs the past few weeks.)
Whichever GM first overcomes his fear gets a super-athletic, 6-foot-11 forward who lacks the motor or toughness teams usually look for in a big man. But at some point, the reward outweighs the risk, and that calculation probably starts here.
Trade Scenarios: See comment in Pick 12.
Rockets' Big Board:
1. Perry Jones
2. Moe Harkless
3. Kendall Marshall
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Dallas
Terrence Jones
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 252 pounds
Age: 20
School: Kentucky
Analysis: It would be tough to pass on Jones here. His versatility, rebounding and shot-blocking would all be welcome in Big D.
Trade Scenarios: Dallas is another team that has been actively exploring moving up in the draft the past few days.
Mavs' Big Board:
1. John Henson
2. Terrence Jones
3. Kendall Marshall
4. Royce White
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Rockets (from Wolves via Jazz)
Moe Harkless
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 207 pounds
Age: 19
School: St. John's
Analysis: Adding Harkless to their stock of young players could be a smart move. Lots of teams have shown interest in Harkless. He's young, athletic, has great upside and can defend multiple positions. He's sort of a young Trevor Ariza.
Trade Scenarios: See comment at No. 12.
Rockets' Big Board:
1. Perry Jones
2. Moe Harkless
3. Kendall Marshall
4. Jared Sullinger
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Orlando
Marquis Teague
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 180 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Lead point guard Jameer Nelson is expected to opt out of his contract this summer, and given the rebuilding direction the Magic are going in, the team may not want to pay him.
Teague, had he stayed in school another year, would've been a likely top-10 pick in 2013. A team such as the Magic can't afford to pass on his talent here.
Trade Scenarios: Waiting on the Rockets to make their best offer for Superman.
Magic Big Board:
1. Marquis Teague
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Terrence Jones
4. Perry Jones
5. Andrew Nicholson
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Denver
Kendall Marshall
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 198 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina
Analysis: Andre Miller's contract is up with the Nuggets this summer. In most every way, Marshall is the perfect replacement. They have similar builds and games. Although Ty Lawson is the clear starter in Denver, the Nuggets could really use depth at the position.
Trade Scenarios: Chris Broussard has reported that the Nuggets have talked about a swap of Wilson Chandler for the No. 7 pick and Dorell Wright.
Nuggets' Big Board:
1. Kendall Marshall
2. Royce White
3. Andrew Nicholson
4. Marquis Teague
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Boston
Royce White
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 261 pounds
Age: 21
School: Iowa State
Analysis: I think White is a good fit in Boston. As long as coach Doc Rivers can buy into what White is (a ball handling power forward) and figure out how to play him, he could be a steal at this point in the draft.
Trade Scenarios: It's Danny Ainge. He's talking to everyone. But I think the most likely scenario has them standing pat here.
Celtics' Big Board:
1. Royce White
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Andrew Nicholson
4. Quincy Miller
5. Draymond Green
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Boston (via Clippers)
Jared Sullinger
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 268 pounds
Age: 20
School: Ohio State
Analysis: I'm not sure when the bleeding will end for Sullinger, whose stock is falling now that concerns about his back have every GM in the league a bit skittish.
But since the Celtics have two picks, they can afford to take the risk here. It will be a good one. Sullinger can play and he may be the best low-post scorer in the game.
Trade Scenarios: See No. 21.
Celtics' Big Board:
See No. 21.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Atlanta
Andrew Nicholson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 22
School: St. Bonaventure
Analysis: Nicholson's ability to score inside and outside combined with his defensive abilities should be a nice fit in Atlanta -- especially with Josh Smith now on the trading block.
Trade Scenarios: The Hawks are shopping Smith around the league, trying to move up in the lottery. They also have some interest in Pau Gasol, according to sources. The Rockets have also shown interest in Smith.
Hawks' Big Board:
1. Royce White
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Andrew Nicholson
4. Evan Fournier
5. Tony Wroten
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Cavs (via Lakers)
Fab Melo
Position: C
Height: 7-foot
Weight: 255 pounds
Age: 22
School: Syracuse
Analysis: If the Cavs go with a small forward with their first pick, Melo could be a nice get with No. 24. He's big, athletic and could end up being a terrific shot-blocker. The fact that they have fellow Brazilian Anderson Varejao to mentor him is a bonus.
Trade Scenarios: This pick could be in play if the Cavs trade up to No. 4.
Cavs' Big Board:
1. Jared Sullinger
2. Andrew Nicholson
3. Quincy Miller
4. Jeff Taylor
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Memphis
Tony Wroten Jr.
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 18
School: Washington
Analysis: The Grizzlies lack great depth at the point guard position behind Mike Conley (unless you're the guy who somehow voted Josh Selby to the all-rookie third team).
Wroten has top-five talent, but he's wild and can't shoot. It might be worth rolling the dice on him. For a team like the Grizzlies, they can't afford to pass on the talent there.
Trade Scenarios: Grizzlies have talked with a number of teams about trading out of the first round.
Grizzlies' Big Board:
1. Marquis Teague
2. Tony Wroten
3. Evan Fournier
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Indiana
Draymond Green
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 236 pounds
Age: 22
School: Michigan State
Analysis: I'm increasingly hearing that the Pacers are very high on Green. He's a smart, tough player who can come in and fill a need immediately for Indiana. Larry Bird has made similar picks in years past and done OK with them. I don't think Green slides past here.
Trade Scenarios: The Pacers have looked to try to get into the top 10. They have a pretty good chip, in Darren Collison, if they want to use it. Tyler Hansbrough is also in play.
Pacers' Big Board:
1. Fab Melo
2. Draymond Green
3. Marquis Teague
4. Will Barton
5. Kim English
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Miami
Jeff Taylor
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 212 pounds
Age: 23
School: Vanderbilt
Analysis: The Heat could use Taylor's elite athletic ability, lock-down defense and spot-up shooting. He can't create his own shot, but no one will ask him to in Miami, making this the perfect spot for him to land.
Trade Scenarios: Heat could be another team that trades out of the first round.
Heat Big Board:
1. Draymond Green
2. Fab Melo
3. Festus Ezeli
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Oklahoma City
Evan Fournier
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 206 pounds
Age: 19
Country: France
Analysis: Fournier is the type of player the Thunder easily could stash for a year or two in Europe. Or, given the high level he has played at in France, he might be able to come in and get minutes for them right away -- especially if the Thunder decide they can't afford to re-sign James Harden this summer.
Trade Scenarios: Thunder are exploring getting to the No. 2 or 3 pick to select Bradley Beal. They are also open to moving out of the draft altogether.
Thunder Big Board:
1. Evan Fournier
2. Kostas Papanikolaou
3. Furkan Aldemir
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Chicago
Will Barton
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 174 pounds
Age: 21
School: Memphis
Analysis: The Bulls are looking at a number of 2-guard options here, but Barton has separated himself from the pack in the past few weeks. He's a terrific scorer and can shoot with range. He just needs to add strength.
Trade Scenarios: The Bulls have been actively trying to move up, but have had no luck so far.
Bulls' Big Board:
1. Will Barton
2. Doron Lamb
3. Tyshawn Taylor
4. John Jenkins
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Golden State
(via Spurs)
Quincy Miller
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 219 pounds
Age: 19
School: Baylor
Analysis: There are a lot of concerns about his knee and what position he'll play in the NBA. But his upside is so high that it might be worth taking a gamble this low in the first round. There's very little risk and a lot of potential reward here.
Trade Scenarios: Warriors have been busy with lots of stuff.
Warriors' Big Board:
1. Quincy Miller
2. Kyle O'Quinn
3. Festus Ezeli
NBA Draft 2012
Commentary
Mock Draft, Version 10.0
Updated: June 28, 2012, 12:10 PM ET
By Chad Ford | ESPN.com
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Happy Draft Day. This year, I think the NBA has something really crazy in store for all of us.
Like every year, as of midnight ET a number of teams reported that they were still debating between three or four prospects on their boards. Agents and players are wringing their hands right now. No one knows who's going where.
So, this year's NBA draft should be fun. And the mock draft? It's hard to predict which players teams will select when they haven't decided themselves, but we're going to try. And then try again a little later in the day. And then try again right before the draft.
In other words, check back often for versions 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 as we continue to collect information on who will go where.
After talking to numerous NBA team sources, here's our best stab at how the draft will play out Thursday night.
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New Orleans
Anthony Davis
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 222 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Rejoice, Hornets fans. Players like Davis come along about once or twice a decade. You'll have to be patient with both him and the franchise, but the upside is there for some sort of Tim Duncan/Kevin Garnett hybrid. With plenty of cap room to sign Eric Gordon and another significant free agent, plus the No. 10 pick, the Hornets are building a rock-solid foundation.
Trade Scenarios: Are you kidding me?
Hornets' Big Board (team priorities, according to sources):
1. Anthony Davis
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Charlotte
Thomas Robinson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: The Bobcats need help everywhere. They don't have a starting-caliber player on their roster right now. Robinson will be the first. He's tough, physical and a winner. Remember, he led a very mediocre Kansas team to the national championship game.
Trade Scenarios: There are plenty. The Bobcats' asking price is high. They would love to get their hands on multiple young assets or a young veteran who could be a star. There are two scenarios in particular to watch: (1) The Cavs could offer their two first-round picks -- Nos. 4 and 24 -- for the No. 2 pick; (2) the Thunder could offer James Harden to move into the second spot. In either case, the Cavs or Thunder would select Bradley Beal at No. 2.
Bobcats' Big Board:
1. Trade
2. Thomas Robinson
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Harrison Barnes
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Washington
Bradley Beal
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 202 pounds
Age: 19
School: Florida
Analysis: The Wizards made the first big trade of the offseason, sending Rashard Lewis and the 46th pick to New Orleans for Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza. With the deal, the Wizards essentially upgraded their front court -- Okafor likely will be their starting 5, Nene their starting 4 and Ariza their starting 3.
With John Wall running the point, that leaves them with one big hole at the 2. I think this makes Beal a no-brainer for the Wizards, who are lacking a lights-out perimeter shooter. He's a perfect fit for this new roster.
Trade Scenarios: If the Wizards believe they are in danger of losing Beal to a team moving up in the draft, don't be surprised if they offer the Bobcats the No. 32 pick to move up one spot. The Wizards might also entertain a James Harden offer from the Thunder for Beal. Finally, if Beal is off the board, the Wizards have talked to teams about moving down to Nos. 5, 7, 8 or 9.
Wizards' Big Board:
1. Bradley Beal
2. Harrison Barnes
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Thomas Robinson
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Cleveland
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 233 pounds
Age: 18
School: Kentucky
Analysis: The Cavs need both a starting 2 and a starting 3. This is a toss-up between Kidd-Gilchrist and Barnes. If they choose MKG they get a hard-working winner who can grow with Kyrie Irving. They were teammates in high school and won a state championship together. While Kidd-Gilchrist still needs a lot of polish on his offensive game, his motor, toughness, defensive pedigree and willingness to work on his game make him a great pick for the Cavs.
Trade Scenarios: Ideally, the Cavs would like to move up to the No. 2 spot to grab Beal. If they did that trade, the Bobcats would take Thomas Robinson here. But the price is high and the Cavs might not want to give up the 24th pick. The Cavs have also explored adding a second pick in the 8-to-12 range, according to sources. Dion Waiters and Terrence Ross are both candidates in that range.
Cavs' Big Board:
1. Bradley Beal
2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. Harrison Barnes
4. Dion Waiters
5. Terrence Ross
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Sacramento
Andre Drummond
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 279 pounds
Age: 18
School: UConn
Analysis: The Kings aren't in love with anyone here if this scenario plays out this way. Sources say that the Kings are still confident they'll make a deal with the Rockets (who covet Drummond). If they don't, sources say GM Geoff Petrie is now leaning toward taking Drummond over Barnes. He feels it's a more tradable chip down the road and the team needs a shot-blocker (the one thing Drummond does well now) next to DeMarcus Cousins.
Trade Scenarios: By now the whole world knows the Rockets are aggressively trying to move up and get this pick. Houston's latest offer (Kyle Lowry and the No. 16 pick) was rejected. But you can expect the Rockets to keep plugging away until they get something done. The Rockets aren't the only team trying to get here. The Lakers and Hawks have also tried to convince Sacramento to part with its pick.
Kings' Big Board:
1. Thomas Robinson
2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. Andre Drummond
4. Harrison Barnes
5. John Henson
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Portland (via Nets)
Damian Lillard
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 189 pounds
Age: 21
School: Weber State
Analysis: The Blazers need a point guard and a big man. They'll have an easy choice here if Drummond goes at No. 5. Lillard is a steady, athletic guard who can shoot the lights out and get to the rim. He had a stellar workout in Portland in front of Paul Allen that really sealed the deal.
Trade Scenarios: GM Neil Olshey told Portland reporters on Wednesday night that it's unlikely the team will trade either of its picks at Nos. 6 or 11.
Blazers' Big Board:
1. Damian Lillard
2. Dion Waiters
3. Andre Drummond
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Golden State
Dion Waiters
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 221 pounds
Age: 20
School: Syracuse
Analysis: Still not sure which way this goes, folks. Jerry West is a big fan of Dion Waiters. Owner Joe Lacob isn't sure if they can pass on the size and potential of Andre Drummond, if he doesn't go at No. 5. GM Bob Meyers thinks Harrison Barnes would be a steal here. I usually pick the owner in these types of fights. … Then again, this is Jerry West you're talking about.
If it's Waiters, I think it's a great fit for the Warriors. Both Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson are primarily jump shooters. Adding Waiters to their backcourt gives them a guy who can get to the basket at will. Sort of a Monta Ellis player at a fraction of the price.
Trade Scenarios: The Warriors have discussed moving both up and down in the draft. Here's the most compelling scenario: If Andre Drummond or Lillard falls to No. 7, don't be surprised if the Warriors trade No. 7 to the Rockets for pick Nos. 12 and 18. The Warriors believe there's still a lot of value down there, and the Rockets covet both Drummond and Lillard.
Warriors' Big Board:
1. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
2. Trade
3. Dion Waiters
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Andre Drummond
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Toronto
Harrison Barnes
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 228 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina
Analysis: This is actually Plan B for the Raptors and it's a great one for them. They need shooting and looked at a number of veteran small forwards at this spot. They really like Barnes, and he's a very easy fit for them. This is a home-run scenario for Toronto.
Trade Scenarios: The Raptors have discussed getting a veteran small forward or point guard here. There has been talk that they would like the Rockets' Kyle Lowry, but they want to keep their salary flexibility going into the summer. They've also explored moving up to No. 5 to get their hands on Waiters or Barnes.
Raptors' Big Board:
1. Dion Waiters
2. Harrison Barnes
3. Damian Lillard
4. Austin Rivers
5. Jeremy Lamb
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Detroit
John Henson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 216 pounds
Age: 21
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Pistons, who desperately need size in the middle, are holding their breath that Drummond slides this far. If the Kings don't take him at No. 5, he just might. They like John Henson, too. They need length, athleticism and shot-blocking -- Henson provides all three.
Trade Scenarios: The Pistons have flirted with the idea of moving up to secure Drummond, but it's more likely they stay at No. 9.
Pistons' Big Board:
1. Thomas Robinson
2. Andre Drummond
3. John Henson
4. Tyler Zeller
5. Perry Jones
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New Orleans
(via Wolves)
Austin Rivers
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke
Analysis: Hornets coach Monty Williams is a fan of Rivers, and Rivers really wants to be in New Orleans. The question is whether he can play alongside Eric Gordon. The Hornets think Rivers can be a point guard at the next level and are willing to try it.
Trade Scenarios: The Hornets tried to move down a few spots and get multiple mid-first-round picks, but so far they've been shut down.
Hornets' Big Board:
1. Damian Lillard
2. Andre Drummond
3. Austin Rivers
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. Kendall Marshall
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Portland
Tyler Zeller
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 247 pounds
Age: 22
School: North Carolina
Analysis: If the Blazers go with a guard at No. 6, don't be surprised if they go big with their other selection. Zeller isn't a sexy pick, but he is capable of playing right now, has solid size for his position and runs the floor well.
Trade Scenarios: See Blazers comment at No. 6.
Blazers' Big Board:
1. Dion Waiters
2. Austin Rivers
3. Tyler Zeller
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. Terrence Ross
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Houston (via Bucks)
Meyers Leonard
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-1
Weight: 250 pounds
Age: 20
School: Illinois
Analysis: The Rockets agreed to trade Samuel Dalembert and the 14th pick to the Milwaukee Bucks for Shaun Livingston, Jon Leuer, Jon Brockman and the 12th pick, a league source told ESPN.com.
I seriously doubt the Rockets will actually be selecting here on draft night. However, if they do, I think they'll take the best big man available. Leonard may be a project, but there's upside here and the team really doesn't have anything in the middle.
Trade Scenarios: The Rockets are trying to package picks 12, 16 and 18 and Kyle Lowry to get multiple top-10 picks to offer to the Magic for Dwight Howard. The Warriors, at No. 7, could be a serious target with this pick.
Rockets' Big Board:
1. Tyler Zeller
2. Meyers Leonard
3. Perry Jones
4. Moe Harkless
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Phoenix
Jeremy Lamb
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 179 pounds
Age: 20
School: UConn
Analysis: The Suns need just about everything, so they can afford to take the best player available. But Lamb hits a sweet spot for them at the 2-guard position. They didn't think he'd be available here and he gives them length and shooting.
Trade Scenarios: It's been pretty quiet in Phoenix.
Suns' Big Board:
1. Dion Waiters
2. Austin Rivers
3. Jeremy Lamb
4. Kendall Marshall
5. Arnett Moultrie
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Milwaukee (via Rockets)
Terrence Ross
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 197 pounds
Age: 21
School: Washington
Analysis: The Bucks have moved down two spots in the draft, but it shouldn't dramatically affect which player they take. In fact, now that they've added Samuel Dalembert, they have more freedom to draft a shooter at the wing positions. Ross worked out for the Bucks on Tuesday, and while I don't think it was a game-changer, they might opt to take him if Tyler Zeller and Lamb are gone.
Trade Scenarios: The Bucks just pulled off a trade to get Dalembert and move down two spots in the draft. Think they're probably done.
Bucks' Big Board:
1. Tyler Zeller
2. Jeremy Lamb
3. Terrence Ross
4. Terrence Jones
5. Meyers Leonard
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Philadelphia
Arnett Moultrie
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 223 pounds
Age: 21
School: Mississippi State
Analysis: The Sixers really need size and rebounding in their front court. Moultrie led the SEC in rebounding and is super bouncy. He also has a solid face-the-basket game. He should be a good fit in Philly.
Trade Scenarios: They've been looking for a spot higher in the first round to nab Terrence Ross.
Sixers' Big Board:
1. Terrence Ross
2. Jeremy Lamb
3. Arnett Moultrie
4. Perry Jones
5. Terrence Jones
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Houston (via Knicks)
Perry Jones III
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 20
School: Baylor
Analysis: Jones might be the toughest player in the draft to project right now. Everyone is both scared to take him and scared not to take him. (I've heard the same assessment from a number of NBA GMs the past few weeks.)
Whichever GM first overcomes his fear gets a super-athletic, 6-foot-11 forward who lacks the motor or toughness teams usually look for in a big man. But at some point, the reward outweighs the risk, and that calculation probably starts here.
Trade Scenarios: See comment in Pick 12.
Rockets' Big Board:
1. Perry Jones
2. Moe Harkless
3. Kendall Marshall
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Dallas
Terrence Jones
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 252 pounds
Age: 20
School: Kentucky
Analysis: It would be tough to pass on Jones here. His versatility, rebounding and shot-blocking would all be welcome in Big D.
Trade Scenarios: Dallas is another team that has been actively exploring moving up in the draft the past few days.
Mavs' Big Board:
1. John Henson
2. Terrence Jones
3. Kendall Marshall
4. Royce White
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Rockets (from Wolves via Jazz)
Moe Harkless
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 207 pounds
Age: 19
School: St. John's
Analysis: Adding Harkless to their stock of young players could be a smart move. Lots of teams have shown interest in Harkless. He's young, athletic, has great upside and can defend multiple positions. He's sort of a young Trevor Ariza.
Trade Scenarios: See comment at No. 12.
Rockets' Big Board:
1. Perry Jones
2. Moe Harkless
3. Kendall Marshall
4. Jared Sullinger
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Orlando
Marquis Teague
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 180 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Lead point guard Jameer Nelson is expected to opt out of his contract this summer, and given the rebuilding direction the Magic are going in, the team may not want to pay him.
Teague, had he stayed in school another year, would've been a likely top-10 pick in 2013. A team such as the Magic can't afford to pass on his talent here.
Trade Scenarios: Waiting on the Rockets to make their best offer for Superman.
Magic Big Board:
1. Marquis Teague
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Terrence Jones
4. Perry Jones
5. Andrew Nicholson
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Denver
Kendall Marshall
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 198 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina
Analysis: Andre Miller's contract is up with the Nuggets this summer. In most every way, Marshall is the perfect replacement. They have similar builds and games. Although Ty Lawson is the clear starter in Denver, the Nuggets could really use depth at the position.
Trade Scenarios: Chris Broussard has reported that the Nuggets have talked about a swap of Wilson Chandler for the No. 7 pick and Dorell Wright.
Nuggets' Big Board:
1. Kendall Marshall
2. Royce White
3. Andrew Nicholson
4. Marquis Teague
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Boston
Royce White
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 261 pounds
Age: 21
School: Iowa State
Analysis: I think White is a good fit in Boston. As long as coach Doc Rivers can buy into what White is (a ball handling power forward) and figure out how to play him, he could be a steal at this point in the draft.
Trade Scenarios: It's Danny Ainge. He's talking to everyone. But I think the most likely scenario has them standing pat here.
Celtics' Big Board:
1. Royce White
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Andrew Nicholson
4. Quincy Miller
5. Draymond Green
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS
Boston (via Clippers)
Jared Sullinger
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 268 pounds
Age: 20
School: Ohio State
Analysis: I'm not sure when the bleeding will end for Sullinger, whose stock is falling now that concerns about his back have every GM in the league a bit skittish.
But since the Celtics have two picks, they can afford to take the risk here. It will be a good one. Sullinger can play and he may be the best low-post scorer in the game.
Trade Scenarios: See No. 21.
Celtics' Big Board:
See No. 21.
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Atlanta
Andrew Nicholson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 22
School: St. Bonaventure
Analysis: Nicholson's ability to score inside and outside combined with his defensive abilities should be a nice fit in Atlanta -- especially with Josh Smith now on the trading block.
Trade Scenarios: The Hawks are shopping Smith around the league, trying to move up in the lottery. They also have some interest in Pau Gasol, according to sources. The Rockets have also shown interest in Smith.
Hawks' Big Board:
1. Royce White
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Andrew Nicholson
4. Evan Fournier
5. Tony Wroten
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Cavs (via Lakers)
Fab Melo
Position: C
Height: 7-foot
Weight: 255 pounds
Age: 22
School: Syracuse
Analysis: If the Cavs go with a small forward with their first pick, Melo could be a nice get with No. 24. He's big, athletic and could end up being a terrific shot-blocker. The fact that they have fellow Brazilian Anderson Varejao to mentor him is a bonus.
Trade Scenarios: This pick could be in play if the Cavs trade up to No. 4.
Cavs' Big Board:
1. Jared Sullinger
2. Andrew Nicholson
3. Quincy Miller
4. Jeff Taylor
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Memphis
Tony Wroten Jr.
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 18
School: Washington
Analysis: The Grizzlies lack great depth at the point guard position behind Mike Conley (unless you're the guy who somehow voted Josh Selby to the all-rookie third team).
Wroten has top-five talent, but he's wild and can't shoot. It might be worth rolling the dice on him. For a team like the Grizzlies, they can't afford to pass on the talent there.
Trade Scenarios: Grizzlies have talked with a number of teams about trading out of the first round.
Grizzlies' Big Board:
1. Marquis Teague
2. Tony Wroten
3. Evan Fournier
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Indiana
Draymond Green
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 236 pounds
Age: 22
School: Michigan State
Analysis: I'm increasingly hearing that the Pacers are very high on Green. He's a smart, tough player who can come in and fill a need immediately for Indiana. Larry Bird has made similar picks in years past and done OK with them. I don't think Green slides past here.
Trade Scenarios: The Pacers have looked to try to get into the top 10. They have a pretty good chip, in Darren Collison, if they want to use it. Tyler Hansbrough is also in play.
Pacers' Big Board:
1. Fab Melo
2. Draymond Green
3. Marquis Teague
4. Will Barton
5. Kim English
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Miami
Jeff Taylor
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 212 pounds
Age: 23
School: Vanderbilt
Analysis: The Heat could use Taylor's elite athletic ability, lock-down defense and spot-up shooting. He can't create his own shot, but no one will ask him to in Miami, making this the perfect spot for him to land.
Trade Scenarios: Heat could be another team that trades out of the first round.
Heat Big Board:
1. Draymond Green
2. Fab Melo
3. Festus Ezeli
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Oklahoma City
Evan Fournier
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 206 pounds
Age: 19
Country: France
Analysis: Fournier is the type of player the Thunder easily could stash for a year or two in Europe. Or, given the high level he has played at in France, he might be able to come in and get minutes for them right away -- especially if the Thunder decide they can't afford to re-sign James Harden this summer.
Trade Scenarios: Thunder are exploring getting to the No. 2 or 3 pick to select Bradley Beal. They are also open to moving out of the draft altogether.
Thunder Big Board:
1. Evan Fournier
2. Kostas Papanikolaou
3. Furkan Aldemir
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Chicago
Will Barton
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 174 pounds
Age: 21
School: Memphis
Analysis: The Bulls are looking at a number of 2-guard options here, but Barton has separated himself from the pack in the past few weeks. He's a terrific scorer and can shoot with range. He just needs to add strength.
Trade Scenarios: The Bulls have been actively trying to move up, but have had no luck so far.
Bulls' Big Board:
1. Will Barton
2. Doron Lamb
3. Tyshawn Taylor
4. John Jenkins
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Golden State
(via Spurs)
Quincy Miller
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 219 pounds
Age: 19
School: Baylor
Analysis: There are a lot of concerns about his knee and what position he'll play in the NBA. But his upside is so high that it might be worth taking a gamble this low in the first round. There's very little risk and a lot of potential reward here.
Trade Scenarios: Warriors have been busy with lots of stuff.
Warriors' Big Board:
1. Quincy Miller
2. Kyle O'Quinn
3. Festus Ezeli
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Lol my bad i keep changing it, just tryna keep it updated as much as i can, But yeah can we get this stickiedOriginally Posted by Zyzz
why isnt this thread stickied? im getting lost every hour trying to find itplus someone keeps changing the title
mad im gonna miss the draft tonight
i hope some big trades happen
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[h1]James Harden to Bobcats?[/h1]
June 28, 2012 01:45 PM EDT
Rumors are swirling that the Thunder might be looking to shop James Harden this offseason? Speculation has Harden going to the Bobcats in exchange for their pick in this year's draft. James Harden had a breakout season and led the Thunder to the Finals against the Heat this past season. He was the 6th Man of the Year and was key to the Thunder's success.
The Bobcats had one of the poorest seasons of all-time this past season with a 7-59 record. The Bobcats have the 2nd pick in the draft and analysts have predicted them picking Bradley Beal with this pick. The Thunder have expressed interest in Bradley Beal, according to Bradley himself. The speculated deal would have Beal going to the Thunder in exchange for Harden. This looks like a perfect scenario for the Bobcats. By getting Ben Gordon from the Pistons just a few days ago, the addition of Harden could give them a very good 1-2 punch.
People may think the Thunder are crazy for trading an established player in Harden for a player that could end up being a playoff bust. But, this off-season finance is going to have a big effect on the Thunder's decision. If the Thunder decide to keep Harden, they will have to extend his contract before the July 1st deadline. If OKC were to extend this deal, they would likely end up passing the luxury tax threshold. Being a small market team, this would make it tough for the Thunder to survive. Even with such a great fan base in Oklahoma City, the team might not be able to be successful as a 'business' if they end up the luxury threshold.
Beal definitely has the potential to be as good if not better than Harden if everything falls into place. But for now no one can know for certain. Who do you think this deal benefits most?
June 28, 2012 01:45 PM EDT
Rumors are swirling that the Thunder might be looking to shop James Harden this offseason? Speculation has Harden going to the Bobcats in exchange for their pick in this year's draft. James Harden had a breakout season and led the Thunder to the Finals against the Heat this past season. He was the 6th Man of the Year and was key to the Thunder's success.
The Bobcats had one of the poorest seasons of all-time this past season with a 7-59 record. The Bobcats have the 2nd pick in the draft and analysts have predicted them picking Bradley Beal with this pick. The Thunder have expressed interest in Bradley Beal, according to Bradley himself. The speculated deal would have Beal going to the Thunder in exchange for Harden. This looks like a perfect scenario for the Bobcats. By getting Ben Gordon from the Pistons just a few days ago, the addition of Harden could give them a very good 1-2 punch.
People may think the Thunder are crazy for trading an established player in Harden for a player that could end up being a playoff bust. But, this off-season finance is going to have a big effect on the Thunder's decision. If the Thunder decide to keep Harden, they will have to extend his contract before the July 1st deadline. If OKC were to extend this deal, they would likely end up passing the luxury tax threshold. Being a small market team, this would make it tough for the Thunder to survive. Even with such a great fan base in Oklahoma City, the team might not be able to be successful as a 'business' if they end up the luxury threshold.
Beal definitely has the potential to be as good if not better than Harden if everything falls into place. But for now no one can know for certain. Who do you think this deal benefits most?
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Some mocks are already adjusted to the Bobcats picking Beal..... Throb dropping to #5 LEGOOOOO
I swear if we don't take MKG, Barnes, Throb, or do a stupid %+# trade I might punt a child at work.
I swear if we don't take MKG, Barnes, Throb, or do a stupid %+# trade I might punt a child at work.
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joe dumars will be busy tonight. make it happen
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in lacob we trust. haha. lets go W's.
so how long does david stern get booed to start off the night?
so how long does david stern get booed to start off the night?
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