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Eddie George is the most overrated RB in the history of the NFL IMO
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Eddie George is the most overrated RB in the history of the NFL IMO
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Trent Green? Huh? Do you know the time frame we are looking at?
Serviceable?
This isn't Matt Cassell
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Sidetrack... But yeah, one of the greatest figures in sports. Challenged the NFL and it's "company man" approach (which the others mentioned represent) in all the right ways. Including racism, sexism, etc.
But it's the "kiss-the-ring, don't rock the boat" types who will always be built up and supported behind the scenes by the NFL.
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I don't remember him being rated as 5 he always seemed to get the QB manager stamp and rated higher by flash in the pans like Vick
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Id said Aikman and Martin were closer to being the best at their positions and contributing to their teams success than Bettis was
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favre on the tail end of his career maybe. warner for sure. rivers, romo i'm not so sure about. i know romo is RARELY thought of as a top QB in the league. i tend to give him more credit than others, but most people don't have him ahead of ben most of the time (year to year). similar with rivers.
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Yes.
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Recency effect.
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Ben is Hall worthy IMO, last season alone showed how far he has come
Ben's biggest fault to many is that he had a great team around him when he was a rookie, if Russell stays on track he will the next Ben
Ben's biggest fault to many is that he had a great team around him when he was a rookie, if Russell stays on track he will the next Ben
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'yes'
Solid counter point.
Lot of unchecked aggression towards Pitt tonight. confused on why
Solid counter point.
Lot of unchecked aggression towards Pitt tonight. confused on why
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Had to look it up, but Green was just before Bens time. He had a great stretch though so nothing laughable there at all.
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Green pre Miami was solid as hell
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This is gunna be bridge waters year to shine
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That's what I was laughing about, your time frames are off. Well that and 'serviceable'
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Pick..
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Ben has long been a very, very good quarterback from a skill-level perspective. I think maybe ya'll are being too harsh on him. And he's maintained that through different eras of his team as players came and went which definitely deserves praise.
It's interesting that his best has seemingly come as his team is at its worst—because they're throwing all the time with their weak defense he's getting more credit even as they've been struggling (relatively). I think that says something about the way we evaluate QB play.
But not hof level good. Floated around the borderline top-5 for a few years now.
Also a scumbag, obviously.
It's interesting that his best has seemingly come as his team is at its worst—because they're throwing all the time with their weak defense he's getting more credit even as they've been struggling (relatively). I think that says something about the way we evaluate QB play.
But not hof level good. Floated around the borderline top-5 for a few years now.
Also a scumbag, obviously.
Basically that KC team was dynamite offensively. They had that incredible playoff game vs. Indy, with the Dante Hall runback, where the defense could not get a single stop.
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Ben was a top 5 QB for like a 3 game stretch last season
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What's to counter?
Ben was never top 5. You said it yourself. Not until recently has he started lighting it up. I answered a question and back when Ben was still considered what we say Russell Wilson is now, there were plenty guys you could group ahead of and around Roethlisberger.
And don't flatter yourself. I don't hate Pittsburgh.
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Ben was a top 5 QB for like a 3 game stretch last season
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Another pick.. Thanks Jesse James.. 
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Jesse James should just battle Trae 1v1 with auto QB for the rest of the game.
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Is Edgerrin James a HOFer?
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Should be imo. Sure fire if he was on that '06 squad over Addai
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What's to counter?
Ben was never top 5. You said it yourself. Not until recently has he started lighting it up. I answered a question and back when Ben was still considered what we say Russell Wilson is now, there were plenty guys you could group ahead of and around Roethlisberger.
And don't flatter yourself. I don't hate Pittsburgh.
My wanting a counterpoint was to the Trent Green comment and serviceable/Cassel comment. Not the top five discussion. And my aggression towards Pitt wasn't just about you. I think some lines are being crossed
As I said, you guys can be upset about it but chances are Ben is getting on. Just how it is
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I don't think Bettis is a HOFer. I'm not sure if I would put Ben in either. I would put Ben in before Bettis though.
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