OFFICIAL NFL OFFSZN THREAD 2023-24: R.I.P Jacoby Jones

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Are you saying all the guys you listed didn’t have elite athleticism? I’d argue all of those guys are the peak when it comes to athleticism. It’s about more than 40 times

but most of those guys had great combines

gronk only dropped because of his back concerns coming out.. also the programs these guys were at played a role too

but kelce at his size ran 4.6 flat.. gronk at his size ran sub 4.7.. Tony was playing basketball at cal on top of football.. even witten ran 4.65

the iowa guys are a great example where those guys are coming in the league and doing work after being held back in college because of iowa ‘iowa-ing’ with that offense, Laporta being the latest example
 
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the NHL is doing some crazy **** tonight with staggered starts and a "redzone" type of show...but the NFL could stagger kickoffs like this a bit on the Sunday day games. would be cool to see:

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no fun league, they would rather stagger games across the whole week and **** everyone's rest period :lol:
 
Garrett, Tyreek, CMC and AJ definitely belong on the list imo but we all know it's a QB award nowadays :lol:

#15 should be the main candidate out of the QB's and I'd probably have Lamar creeping up to round out my top 5 with the way he's been elevating his play the last few weeks
 
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