OFFICIAL: Nike Zoom FLYKNIT Collection - Racers + Trainers ONLY - (SIZE POLL ON FIRST PAGE. CHECK TH

[comacoma33]

So, did these already come out?

 

[daantimpire]

the trainers bulge because they have less lace holes than the racers

 

[based614]

My trainers dont bulge, it could be because people might have gotten a size too big or something? I went TTS

 

[grandin]

Are these joints slated to release? or did I miss the boat? No way I'm payin reseller prices for these
edit: nvm seems like i missed major

Been and gone back in Feb. They were the first release along with the black trainer and the USA blue racer. 

 

[chrisbone123]

Just got my trainers.
Nice looking shoe, very light weight.
But soon as I started walking around in them I notice the lack of cushioning, and realized these are not for me.
I hope they release them with the Lunar midsole..

 

[illustrayt]

Nice reviews! I'd like to run in a pair, but I just can't do it if I'll be spending +$150. I haven't run in any Zoom since the Vomero4 and Victory+, and I've been sticking with Lunars and FRs for the past two years. I've been running for about six years now, and I'm pretty new to the "racing" scene (2 Fulls and 1 Half).

Lunar has come a LONG LONG way since the original set of the LunarTrainer and Lunaracer. Yes, those bottomed out. I've had two LunarTrainers bottom out on me, which lasted for ~350mi each pair. HOWEVER, Nike has made significant improvements and progress to their Lunar tech. Currently, I just surpassed the 900mi milestone in the original LunarEclipse, which is the MOST mileage I've ever put on a single pair of running shoes. They're still going strong, but I'm planning to retire them after 1,000mi. Nike must be doing something right with Lunar if they can last for THAT long. Then again, it's all about preference, running form, footstrike, etc...

 

[vozz]

i took my slowpoke dog along and only went 2 miles but i like the sock-like fit and its got good support, better than the streak 3s. Probably put this number one favorite running shoe above my lunaracers. Look forward to getting a couple more pairs

 

[pogiwun]

just got my pairs today

 

[based614]

volts are completely sold out, footlockers will be getting these right?

 

[penpen]

Nice reviews! I'd like to run in a pair, but I just can't do it if I'll be spending +$150. I haven't run in any Zoom since the Vomero4 and Victory+, and I've been sticking with Lunars and FRs for the past two years. I've been running for about six years now, and I'm pretty new to the "racing" scene (2 Fulls and 1 Half).
Lunar has come a LONG LONG way since the original set of the LunarTrainer and Lunaracer. Yes, those bottomed out. I've had two LunarTrainers bottom out on me, which lasted for ~350mi each pair. HOWEVER, Nike has made significant improvements and progress to their Lunar tech. Currently, I just surpassed the 900mi milestone in the original LunarEclipse, which is the MOST mileage I've ever put on a single pair of running shoes. They're still going strong, but I'm planning to retire them after 1,000mi. Nike must be doing something right with Lunar if they can last for THAT long. Then again, it's all about preference, running form, footstrike, etc...

IYE2-
Very interesting insight but it makes a lot of sense regarding the Lunar material. I actually ran in my Lunarglide 3s today and it felt exactly as you described: like running in sand. The lack of spring/bounce almost felt like energy just dies as you take each stride. My time was significantly worse than in the Racers despite running a more favorable course today. The only concern I do have with running without that added cushioning is what kind of wear it might put on joints vs a more cushioned Lunar shoe.

IllustRAYt -
I'm noticing that my initial review is worded in a way that might have a negative connotation. Quite the opposite, it feels like Lunar has reached a point where it is a definite and preferred cushioning platform in the Nike lineup. I'm pretty shocked about the mileage you have put on those Eclipses tho as I've found that the Lunarglides I'm running with now are pretty much shot in terms of overall performance at about 400 miles compared to when I first got them. The cushioning properties still seem to work decently enough, but there is definitely less spring in shoes. My buddy just got the latest Eclipses so I'm interested in what he thinks of them vs his 600 mile Lunarglides.

There is a part of me that feels that maybe that is what the Lunar platform is supposed to do: give fantastic cushioning at the cost of responsiveness/overall performance. In the end, I'm still doing the rotation thing between different shoes but I found myself missing the Racer's responsiveness today. If the only difference in cushioning for the Racers vs the Trainers is the heel zoom, then I'm with IYE2 as I'm also a midfoot striker: No reason to go with the trainers unless there is a durability issue with the shoe be it with the outsole or the upper. As a platform, the Flyknit Racer may be my flat out favorite so far. My only concern is long term wear and tear on joints etc. due to the firmness of the ride. Then again, that might just be my paranoia. =P

 

[illustrayt]

IYE2-
Very interesting insight but it makes a lot of sense regarding the Lunar material. I actually ran in my Lunarglide 3s today and it felt exactly as you described: like running in sand. The lack of spring/bounce almost felt like energy just dies as you take each stride. My time was significantly worse than in the Racers despite running a more favorable course today. The only concern I do have with running without that added cushioning is what kind of wear it might put on joints vs a more cushioned Lunar shoe.
IllustRAYt -
I'm noticing that my initial review is worded in a way that might have a negative connotation. Quite the opposite, it feels like Lunar has reached a point where it is a definite and preferred cushioning platform in the Nike lineup. I'm pretty shocked about the mileage you have put on those Eclipses tho as I've found that the Lunarglides I'm running with now are pretty much shot in terms of overall performance at about 400 miles compared to when I first got them. The cushioning properties still seem to work decently enough, but there is definitely less spring in shoes. My buddy just got the latest Eclipses so I'm interested in what he thinks of them vs his 600 mile Lunarglides.

There is a part of me that feels that maybe that is what the Lunar platform is supposed to do: give fantastic cushioning at the cost of responsiveness/overall performance. In the end, I'm still doing the rotation thing between different shoes but I found myself missing the Racer's responsiveness today. If the only difference in cushioning for the Racers vs the Trainers is the heel zoom, then I'm with IYE2 as I'm also a midfoot striker: No reason to go with the trainers unless there is a durability issue with the shoe be it with the outsole or the upper. As a platform, the Flyknit Racer may be my flat out favorite so far. My only concern is long term wear and tear on joints etc. due to the firmness of the ride. Then again, that might just be my paranoia. =P

I'm shocked as well! Eclipses were godsent!

For the most part, I'd agree with the compromise of responsiveness for cushioning with the lastest Lunars. IMO, the most responsive/most springy Lunar was the original LunarTrainers. It was a sad day when I could no longer feel that bounce in my stride in the LTs . Overall, Lunars just work well for me. I'm a supinator with a forefoot strike and pretty high arches if that matters.

My concerns with running in Flyknits are how long they'll last with the Zoom tooling and the strength of the FlyKnit material. I tend to run pretty aggressively and on trails, and overtime, I get tiny tears on the mesh uppers on most of my shoes, so I'm wondering how the FlyKnit upper will hold up in these types of terrains/situations. It'd be a real shame if a single tear could cause the upper/section to rip further, which could, possibly, jeopardize the whole shoe.

 

[cutthroat]

any idea where to find them, looked on NDC and didn't see them.....

They are on NDC, they released last Friday, but sold out in most colors/sizes. Just do a search for Flyknit. Otherwise check your local Fleet Feet or Road Runner Sports

 

[cutthroat]

i posted the catalog pics of the 3 colors releasing in feb 2013. they're labeled as chukkas.

Stuntman is definitely where I heard it. I definitely forgot that you posted those. Repost maybe? I dont know what page they are on.

I found them in the old thread

 

[owlan]

They are on NDC, they released last Friday, but sold out in most colors/sizes. Just do a search for Flyknit. Otherwise check your local Fleet Feet or Road Runner Sports

He's talking about the Stadium Cuff Pants

 

[penpen]

I'm shocked as well! Eclipses were godsent!
For the most part, I'd agree with the compromise of responsiveness for cushioning with the lastest Lunars. IMO, the most responsive/most springy Lunar was the original LunarTrainers. It was a sad day when I could no longer feel that bounce in my stride in the LTs . Overall, Lunars just work well for me. I'm a supinator with a forefoot strike and pretty high arches if that matters.
My concerns with running in Flyknits are how long they'll last with the Zoom tooling and the strength of the FlyKnit material. I tend to run pretty aggressively and on trails, and overtime, I get tiny tears on the mesh uppers on most of my shoes, so I'm wondering how the FlyKnit upper will hold up in these types of terrains/situations. It'd be a real shame if a single tear could cause the upper/section to rip further, which could, possibly, jeopardize the whole shoe.

Ah. Terrain wise I can see why you use Lunar then. I almost exclusively run on asphalt or concrete where inconsistencies in surface are pretty much irrelevant. Your concern about the durability of the upper is definitely founded as I definitely wouldn't peg the Flyknits to be durable in a trail running setting. Since the whole point of the technology is that the upper is constructed with a minimal number of strands, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the whole shoe would unravel. The Zoom platform probably doesn't lend itself well to trail running either compared to Lunar as there would be less deformation and ultimately more energy transferred to the foot rather than dissipated.

Do you still feel the bounce from the Eclipses or is it more that the fit is so good that it's less of an issue for you?

I am very curious as to the durability of the Racers vs Trainers now though. Given that it is marketed as a racer vs a daily runner, I do wonder if the outsole compound is different from each other, which would result is a shorter lifespan at the tradeoff for better performance. If the Trainers get me 2x the life of the Racers, that would be a reason to trade one for the other...

Oh and I'm a midfoot striker with mild overpronation although I've dialed it out a bit with better running form over the past few years such that I can run in flats without any real concern.

 

[illustrayt]

Ah. Terrain wise I can see why you use Lunar then. I almost exclusively run on asphalt or concrete where inconsistencies in surface are pretty much irrelevant. Your concern about the durability of the upper is definitely founded as I definitely wouldn't peg the Flyknits to be durable in a trail running setting. Since the whole point of the technology is that the upper is constructed with a minimal number of strands, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the whole shoe would unravel. The Zoom platform probably doesn't lend itself well to trail running either compared to Lunar as there would be less deformation and ultimately more energy transferred to the foot rather than dissipated.
Do you still feel the bounce from the Eclipses or is it more that the fit is so good that it's less of an issue for you?
I am very curious as to the durability of the Racers vs Trainers now though. Given that it is marketed as a racer vs a daily runner, I do wonder if the outsole compound is different from each other, which would result is a shorter lifespan at the tradeoff for better performance. If the Trainers get me 2x the life of the Racers, that would be a reason to trade one for the other...
Oh and I'm a midfoot striker with mild overpronation although I've dialed it out a bit with better running form over the past few years such that I can run in flats without any real concern.

I'd say 60% of my runs are on trails, but I do take it to the asphalt as well with same intensity, if not more.

Surprisingly, I still feel the bounce in the Eclipses. I'd say the fit is good but not great. The EC2s actually fit a lot better than the originals, imo. I think it's the bottomless carrier system ("33% more soft foam under the forefoot") that's made them a real pleasure to run in, at least for me.

If it's anything like the Lunaracer/LunarTrainer system, I would think the Trainer would be the more durable shoe, as they usually have the firmer outsole.

 

[joe apples]

Happy I picked-up a pair of HTM last weekend. This are very comfy, but I still put Frees just a bit above these. Maybe I just need to start running/walking more with these on to decide better...

 

[SlamShut]

Happy I picked-up a pair of HTM last weekend. This are very comfy, but I still put Frees just a bit above these. Maybe I just need to start running/walking more with these on to decide better...

Those are so nice!

 

[JRaW’d]

to the people who's trainer are bulging, you shoes must be tied/laced FIRMLY with these.

they are def not made to be loosely worn.

tieing/lacing them makes all the difference in the world as far as comfort and the look...

 

[ebpo]

Can't wait to receive my pair! It's held in customs right now...

Hopefully the size is right for me. All the comments are getting me scared.

Also, shoutout to BetweenTheBars who was gonna help me get a pair before nice shipped to me without any notice

 

[c money 88 05]

to the people who's trainer are bulging, you shoes must be tied/laced FIRMLY with these.
they are def not made to be loosely worn.
tieing/lacing them makes all the difference in the world as far as comfort and the look...

I think it's more a matter of not having the right size in the first place than anything else.

So because I ordered both TTS & 1/2 small in the racer, I tried the smaller pair on to see if I noticed the same fit/bulging:
the length was similar & not bad at all, they were kinda tight width-wise but not bad overall, wouldn't be a casual-friendly fit but for short/medium distance runs you could probably pull it off...about the same thing I said with my trainers that I believe are 1/2 size small.

With that said I seriously would like to get my hands on size 10.5 blue glow/barely blue and total orange/blue glow trainers.
Anyone know of any Niketowns that ship with these colors? Or even either black based pair or the red pair?

 

[tomv11]

Wore mine at the gym yesterday and I'm glad I went TTS. There is a very small amount of extra room in the front compared to what I usually like, but going down half a size would have definitely been too narrow. The thing I enjoyed most on these was the breath ability. Usually my feet get somewhat hot after a little while and that wasn't happening with these.

 

[thejrob]

I went a little crazy on these...but no regrets

 

[theassassin23]

Can anyone post on feet pics of the black and whites? I'm torn between getting volts or those. I like the multi color black but volt is volt

 

[boss tycoon 408]

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