Official Oklahoma City Thunder VS Memphis Grizzlies Series Thread: OKC Wins

[i am that dude]

Originally Posted by GaBeGRaMz

If the Thunder lose to Grizz.

Billups for Westbrook.

No sir. For all of his faults, and he has had 1 terrible game (game 4 last series), a regular bad game (game 5), and tonight was fairly decent, I want no parts of Billups. If we could get Jrue Holiday somehow, I'm on it though. And of course, CP3, even though Russ murked him in all their meetings this yr.

I need to be a coach. It's amazing these dudes get paid millions of dollars and aren't noticing, or correcting anyways, things I have noticed.

The big problem with Perkins defense on pick and rolls, and also why Gasol will have so many open 15 footers this series, is that Perk doesn't hedge/show then get back. He likes to stay an extra 5 or 6 seconds and help the guard out by keeping Conley/Lawson/etc from being able to turn that corner, than after a few moments he turns and gets back. Well, that's fine but the rest of the team behind him isn't always (in fact never is) in tune with that so if you pass to Perkin's man, he is ALWAYS open because Perk isn't really quick enough to get back faster than the pass. So as long your spacing 2 passes away (generally Ibaka's man) is good enough, whoever Perk is guarding is ALWAYS open on the roll or the pop. Just keep Ibaka's man on the other side because Serge is athletic enough to make up for not being there.

Then Perk gets mad and yells at Ibaka or KD, because he's helping and nobody's helping him. Then he was cussing Russ out for taking so many bad shots. I know players yell at each other all the time, and it doesn't mean anything, but I think he legitimately doesn't like dude or his game/shot selection/not passing. I've been watching that dynamic since the first homegame which I made the 3hr drive to (was Bobcats).

Also, ALL of Westbrook's turnovers aren't his fault. At least 3 tonight where the result of KD not being able to get open enough for the pass. KD has the same problem with smaller defenders Dirk Nowitzki used to have, and players hold/grab/push him off the ball when he's trying to break free and he isn't strong/aggressive enough to completely break free or seal for good enough post position to make a clean pass and a lot of times trying to get him the ball and waiting for him to get open enough takes so much time, by the time you do or the time the passer decides to reverse the other way because it'll take too long, there's 4 seconds on the clock and you have to force something.

 

[ag 47]

and are ppl really forgetting that marbury wasn't exactly all there?!



And Marbury still had better court vision and passing abilities than Westbrook.

 

[ag 47]

and are ppl really forgetting that marbury wasn't exactly all there?!



And Marbury still had better court vision and passing abilities than Westbrook.

 

[GaBeGRaMz]

Hypothetically speaking though...


It's not entirely bad, because it would also put the Thunder in position to get CP or D.Will.

 

[GaBeGRaMz]

Hypothetically speaking though...


It's not entirely bad, because it would also put the Thunder in position to get CP or D.Will.

 

[IATT]

^ like i said in the NBA season/playoff thread, the only trade i consider for westbrook is something like this:


dwight howard for


westbrook, perk and cook (or thabo.. hell could throw nate in it too)






of course this only works if howard agrees to go to OKC and sign long term (would try to get ryan anderson or reddick back in the deal)

but i assume any deal orlando does involving howard would have to involve some of those horrendous contracts they have

 

[IATT]

^ like i said in the NBA season/playoff thread, the only trade i consider for westbrook is something like this:


dwight howard for


westbrook, perk and cook (or thabo.. hell could throw nate in it too)






of course this only works if howard agrees to go to OKC and sign long term (would try to get ryan anderson or reddick back in the deal)

but i assume any deal orlando does involving howard would have to involve some of those horrendous contracts they have

 

[bhzmafia14]

Originally Posted by PMatic

“You can’t stop him,’’ Durant said. “He’s an animal . . . He’s the best power forward in the league.’’

Perkins didn’t rubber stamp that endorsement. Perkins declined to name his top power forward, but it’s not Randolph.

“If he says so,

 

[bhzmafia14]

Originally Posted by PMatic

“You can’t stop him,’’ Durant said. “He’s an animal . . . He’s the best power forward in the league.’’

Perkins didn’t rubber stamp that endorsement. Perkins declined to name his top power forward, but it’s not Randolph.

“If he says so,

 

[GaBeGRaMz]

Hopefully nobody is taking that post serious though.

 

[GaBeGRaMz]

Hopefully nobody is taking that post serious though.

 

[i am that dude]

Give me DWill or CP3 then, don't make me have to deal with Chauncy Billups and his pullup 3's on 3 on 1 breakaways. Give me DWill or Cp3 though, and all my Mavericks merchandise goes right into the trash. He's a tremendous flopper and crybaby, but I think with CP3 KD's scoring average goes up even more, literally I think he can find a whole 'nother 5ppg.

Photoshop from an article titled "The Assassination of Kevin Durant by Russell Westbrook"

Pic from tonight

 

[i am that dude]

Give me DWill or CP3 then, don't make me have to deal with Chauncy Billups and his pullup 3's on 3 on 1 breakaways. Give me DWill or Cp3 though, and all my Mavericks merchandise goes right into the trash. He's a tremendous flopper and crybaby, but I think with CP3 KD's scoring average goes up even more, literally I think he can find a whole 'nother 5ppg.

Photoshop from an article titled "The Assassination of Kevin Durant by Russell Westbrook"

Pic from tonight

 

[darth dnzy]

--I just watched uo until halftime cuz I had to go to work.
--Durant looked nervous out there. Poor shot selection, settling for outside jumpers alot and they were off.
--Dude has to relax. That was the quietest I've heard the OKC crowd.

 

[darth dnzy]

--I just watched uo until halftime cuz I had to go to work.
--Durant looked nervous out there. Poor shot selection, settling for outside jumpers alot and they were off.
--Dude has to relax. That was the quietest I've heard the OKC crowd.

 

[IATT]

^ today felt like game 1 of the denver series (except durant, westbrook and the bad call saved us)

 

[IATT]

^ today felt like game 1 of the denver series (except durant, westbrook and the bad call saved us)

 

[Deleted member 38307]

Westbrook will play better and they will win.

 

[Deleted member 38307]

Westbrook will play better and they will win.

 

[o fenomeno]

imagine if this was the vancouver grizzles vs the seattle supersonics

 

[o fenomeno]

imagine if this was the vancouver grizzles vs the seattle supersonics

 

[bhzmafia14]

Brian Davis, “The Thunder decided today after viewing the tape that overall their scheme for denying Memphis in the paint was pretty sound

 

[bhzmafia14]

Brian Davis, “The Thunder decided today after viewing the tape that overall their scheme for denying Memphis in the paint was pretty sound

 

[i am that dude]

Scott Brooks isn't even a real coach. He literally runs NO plays. It's just basic basketball stuff, pick and roll, dive and kick, 4 down, 3 down, curls, etc. He just has players good enough to mask it at times by making plays but you look at their execution even out of timeouts in late game situations (like the NYK game winner KD hit), and it's horrendous. You end up with KD getting the ball too late. The masters IMO are Popovich, Rivers, and D'Antoni. You got a to and 2 seconds left and want to get a good shot up, those are the guys to watch. Whether the shot is made or not, they'll end up with a good shot by the right person. Hell, the game winning pick and roll lob Doc called against the 6era was just brilliant. Against the Knicks, down 3 they needed a quick bucket late, get a damn in bound alleyoop from the hash mark.

But the Thunder, give Russ and/or KD the ball. ANd defenders hold, grab, and push KD off the ball and he's not stong/aggresive enough to get open enough to make his entry clean, again you make Maynor or Westbrook waste half the shot clock trying to dribble around and find out how to hand KD the ball.

Defensively, Perkins overhelps on pick and roll helps then nobody helps him. It's literally that simple, noticed it since he came to OKC. He likes to hedge to allow the guard to get through, then stay for a few seconds while his man meanwhile is open on the pop or the roll, and if nobody (Ibaka) comes over and picks up Perk's man in the meantime, it's an easy pass and open jumper, in this case for Gasol or Randolph. But since everyone else stays home, all you have to do is involve Perk in pick and roll coverage and make sure Ibaka's man is far enough out of the play he can't make a superman recovery.

 

[i am that dude]

Scott Brooks isn't even a real coach. He literally runs NO plays. It's just basic basketball stuff, pick and roll, dive and kick, 4 down, 3 down, curls, etc. He just has players good enough to mask it at times by making plays but you look at their execution even out of timeouts in late game situations (like the NYK game winner KD hit), and it's horrendous. You end up with KD getting the ball too late. The masters IMO are Popovich, Rivers, and D'Antoni. You got a to and 2 seconds left and want to get a good shot up, those are the guys to watch. Whether the shot is made or not, they'll end up with a good shot by the right person. Hell, the game winning pick and roll lob Doc called against the 6era was just brilliant. Against the Knicks, down 3 they needed a quick bucket late, get a damn in bound alleyoop from the hash mark.

But the Thunder, give Russ and/or KD the ball. ANd defenders hold, grab, and push KD off the ball and he's not stong/aggresive enough to get open enough to make his entry clean, again you make Maynor or Westbrook waste half the shot clock trying to dribble around and find out how to hand KD the ball.

Defensively, Perkins overhelps on pick and roll helps then nobody helps him. It's literally that simple, noticed it since he came to OKC. He likes to hedge to allow the guard to get through, then stay for a few seconds while his man meanwhile is open on the pop or the roll, and if nobody (Ibaka) comes over and picks up Perk's man in the meantime, it's an easy pass and open jumper, in this case for Gasol or Randolph. But since everyone else stays home, all you have to do is involve Perk in pick and roll coverage and make sure Ibaka's man is far enough out of the play he can't make a superman recovery.