***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Nike Jordan]

 

[rexanglorum]

Let’s suppose, for the sake of argument, that Senators are truly just delegates for their State’s median voter and they have no obligation to care how their vote affects the other 49 States.

Ok, so Joe Manchin is in a State that Trump won. Fine, he can vote against Biden’s agenda. Throw in Sherrod Brown and Jon Tester. They can vote no on reconciliation since they are from States that Trump won.

At the same time though, Kyrsten Sinema should vote yes since Biden won AZ. Moreover, the three GOP Senators from States that Biden won should respect the unique, local culture of their States which voted for Biden; Ron Johnson, Pat Toomey, and Susan Collins are being more loyal to their Party and ignoring the will of their blue States of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Maine, respectively.

But of course, Ron Johnson, Pat Toomey, and Susan Collins won’t vote for Biden’s agenda because the idea of the Senate as 50 States sending pairs of ambassadors to the federal government is a legal fiction. The Senate is a national body where two political parties fight a zero sum ideological game. The whole GOP understands this.

Even if Manchin and Sinema aren’t thrilled about every part of the reconciliation bill, they need to consider their own political party and the long-term fate of the Senate’s legitimacy (and by extension, the legitimacy of the whole constitutional order). They could mortally wound both if they leave the majority of the electorate’s will completely thwarted.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Joey has done some things that have really pissed me off, but when he does **** like this, I can happily say...

 

[elpablo21]

Clowns

 

[rexanglorum]

Since lil Marco is scared of spooky scary socialism, here’s a primer on socialism and Marxism.

 

[rexanglorum]

Grifters recognizing other grifters

 

[dacomeup]

Grifters recognizing other grifters

I can hardly believe that this is real. This is incredible

 

[blastercombo]

Hit her with a bus now. Anyone please. She’s just Rachel Nichols 2.0

 

[IATT]

 

[aepps20]

Joey has done some things that have really pissed me off, but when he does **** like this, I can happily say...

Joey has done some things that have really pissed me off, but when he does **** like this, I can happily say...

NOOOO THIS IS YOUR PRESIDENT AND MINE TOO

 

[Bruce Banner]

lol one thing about Harris is she’s gonna say a lot without saying anything meaningful. Her whole response is hilarious man

 

[elpablo21]

 

[wavycrocket]

 

[RustyShackleford]

This is ******* disgusting

Millions of people lives could be made better, and these scumbag centrist tanking the plan for no good reason

Best case scenario we get a half measure, then the defenders of these scumbag centrist will all act like liberals and progressives be thankful they got anything at all.

 

[blastercombo]

They’re saving money for what exactly? Same was said during Covid and emergency relief. We finally have an emergency and it’s “well what if we need it later?!????” Dumb ****s

Please let more maga idiot riot please

 

[RustyShackleford]

So Miss "I'm in the Senate I don't care what House progressives think of me" all of a sudden got a ton of **** to say about what happens in the House


Pure circus bathroom status

 

[dwalk31]

This is ****ing disgusting

Millions of people lives could be made better, and these scumbag centrist tanking the plan for no good reason

Best case scenario we get a half measure, then the defenders of these scumbag centrist will all act like liberals and progressives be thankful they got anything at all.

Do you think watered-down legislation is better than no legislation at all?

I remember we had this discussion in regards to the First Step Act and Fair Chance Act, but I don’t recall where you landed on watered-down legislation.

Personally, I think the proposed watered-down number is much better than no legislation.

 

[blastercombo]

Do you think watered-down legislation is better than no legislation at all?

I remember we had this discussion in regards to the First Step Act and Fair Chance Act, but I don’t recall where you landed on watered-down legislation.

Personally, I think the proposed watered-down number is much better than no legislation.

Why do you support pedos?

 

[elpablo21]

I think its funny how ppl and some in the media don't consider the 3.5T bill "watered down" considering that wasn't even the original number of the bill

So one side is basically supposed to be beaten into submission to pass "something"

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

[frink85]

So basically they had some budget cuts so they’re not gonna do their job? Ok that’s totally gonna make me throw my money at them.

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the LAPD budget is in the multiple billions yearly...they could probably occupy a small country, or maybe process some evidence?

 

[RustyShackleford]

So basically they had some budget cuts so they’re not gonna do their job? Ok that’s totally gonna make me throw my money at them.

This is one example but I have read many others

Basically, the LAPD budget got a slight increase, but the union is mad because they think activist pressure blocked a bigger increase. So many officers are upset by this.

So their budget increased and the police are still upset

 

[RustyShackleford]

It is reported the LAPD got its budget cut, but really what happened is the overtime cops are working is getting banked

So it is not being paid out now, it is being paid out later. So what can be reported as a cut now is mainly and accounting trick

 

[blastercombo]

I work with budgets. They most likely just shifted numbers around and stopped at that.