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Nah. Maybe you believe you do, but your argument is unconvincing to me, by any measure.
Once you get into the policy, there is a reason I have a grudge. Mostly because Biden could have forgiven FFEL loans and Perkins loans. There is literally a statute in section 20 U.S.C. 1082(a)(6) of the 1965 Higher Education Act that allows him to forgive those bank loans but he got scared so they went in the opposite of that approach and denied those loans forgiveness to take this approach with the heroes act. They incorrectl thought they could get it off easier by not angering the banks and now no one will have forgiveness. These bank backed loans were part of Biden’s stall either so people have been paying them nonstop too.
Why Biden’s Student Loan Forgiveness Plan Faces A Rocky Road
Roxanne Bland reviews the details behind President Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan and questions whether the president has the authority to forgive student debt.www.forbes.com
But it goes deeper than that I can tell you right now how they could get around this. Simply create a repay options that forgive that amount and more. Go nuclear and say **** it if you can’t afford it we will make payment plans that essentially forgive the loans based on being in a income based plan that doesn’t need any payment and unlike the current plan we don’t tax that amount as income once it’s forgiven. Lesson the public loan service forgiveness to 5 years instead of 10. I am a big believe these loans held by the government shouldn’t accrue interest. There are options here.
This hold section is wild.
Are you really in here claiming that the Biden Administration goofed by not using another legal argument?
Your plan would still end up in front of a conservative-controlled Supreme Court
So many journalists that follow the court, liberal ones, are saying the plain truth.
Whatever legal argument they came up with, justices can find a BS argument to kill it.
Change legal argument doesn't remove the main roadblock
There are options that require Congress.
It is a cope and wishful thinking to act like Biden has all the power he needs, and simply chooses not to exercise it. He had limited power to pause certain loans and the Department of Ed. change course because it would have given conservatives a strong legal argument against his plan. No matter if he used the Heroes Act or the Higher Education Act.
Your argument comes off as if you are mad Biden won't act like an authoritarian. I get you are angry but what you are suggesting here are some reaches
Democrats should pack the court, for many reasons
But the plain truth of the matter is that even if Biden did support it, there simply are not the votes right now. Not enough to save the executive order.
It is a reality people have to come to terms with
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Biden is doing better than I thought.
Fire Pete and don’t break anymore strikes though not a good look trying to get working people on your side.
Fire Pete and don’t break anymore strikes though not a good look trying to get working people on your side.
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Fire Pete for what?
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His absence in the travel issues, train strike and train derailment. Dude just doesn’t seem like he cares.
If this was a private sector job heads would be rolling or he’d at least have a fire lit under him.
If this was a private sector job heads would be rolling or he’d at least have a fire lit under him.
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He needs to double down and keep Mayor Pete. It’s sad what happened but there is a direct line from what happened to the Trump administration and the Republicans. We need to stop letting clowns like Greene and other Republican scums frame the issue and take the high road when they never do. Kev could get a rail safety bill passed through the house that would be passed by the Senate today if he wanted but they don’t care about governing . It’s rich seeing these Republican clowns clutch their pearls about Ohio when the local and state governments in those states are too busy legislating women’s bodies than caring about their own people. This is a Rich Republican vs MAGA Republican fight. Rich Republicans pushed for deregulation to get more money in their pockets while poor MAGA republicans that want to own the libs said nothing. Now that MAGAs are hurt they want government to function when they cosigned Rich Republicans doing what they did.
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Absence? What absence?
I have heard zero about Pete not doing his job during these issues. Are you talking about actually not doing his job, or not showing his face in the media advocating for one side? Because if a Cabinet member needs to be fired, I think it should be for failure to do their actual job, not implicitly political reasons like not visiting a derailment side fast enough.
The only thing I think is a strong knock against him is him fining airlines harder for their *******. And ultimately, that is Biden's decision.
Pete seems to be doing a great job.
I think it is wild for dude to get fired for optics.
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Him not saying enough also what almost happened with the trains. It’s a bad look for Biden to break a strike and you gotta be out here in times like this at least trying to reassure people of something.
You work for the public you should be out in public in an emergency IMO.
I saw a reporter ask him a question about the train derailment and dude basically told her to F off he’s off the clock. Come on man, you might not want to speak on it but it’s something that comes with your job.
You work for the public you should be out in public in an emergency IMO.
I saw a reporter ask him a question about the train derailment and dude basically told her to F off he’s off the clock. Come on man, you might not want to speak on it but it’s something that comes with your job.
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They should all be nationalized. The rail industry is already quasi government with them managing their pensions.
Just nationalize it and be done with it.
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Yeah this seems silly and petty to me
He is doing his job and doing his job well in his role as a cabinet member
Biden shouldn't be firing people because they don't give him political wins, or become targets or Fox News or Young Turks crowds
And the dude was walking the street with his husband, on his personal time. Civil servants are people as well
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Well my wife always tells me I’d be a horrible boss so can’t say you’re the first person to tell me I’m petty with no patience.
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You'd be a great boss. You'd roll with your people and fire them if they need to be fired but you would do so not because other people that don’t mean well or had bad intentions told you to. Notice who most of Pete’s critics are? Do any of those people strike you as well meaning individuals that actually care what happened or are they just desperate to make Dark Brandon look bad?
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Well yeah I hear who most the people are, but you can still criticize and not be maga.
Politics is optics too though, that’s the thing. Dude is good at public speaking and can roast people when he needs to. Get angry, fire shots at people who created this mess. All of it not just the train derailment.
Politics is optics too though, that’s the thing. Dude is good at public speaking and can roast people when he needs to. Get angry, fire shots at people who created this mess. All of it not just the train derailment.
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You are saying he should lose his non-political job for political reasons
That is the problem
And the reasoning you used is a conservative talking point. Those in public jobs should be subject to weaker job security that those in the private sector face.
It is ****** when CEO throw people under the bus and fire them for PR reasons, so why do you think Biden should act in the same manner?
If Pete needs to lose his job, it should be for a failure to perform his actual job. And that is being Transporation Secretary, not because he has supplied Biden and the Democrats with good political press.
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Yeah I guess I see your point.
I still think he should be out here more though and appear more compassionate and strict on these companies when he has to.
I still think he should be out here more though and appear more compassionate and strict on these companies when he has to.
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Wrong thread
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There's this strain of Mayor Pete hate that I don't understand.
a lot of it seems to come from former Bernie people.
a lot of it seems to come from former Bernie people.
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David Sirota and Nina Turner leading the charge
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Hard to do when there exists people who are born with no clear physical distinction between male and female.
I don't think I got an answer when I asked where they would fit in the conservative understanding of sex/gender. I guess they'll force intersex people to pick which bits they want to keep and get the rest cut off.
"We'll make sure you can't choose what you are by forcing you to choose what you are"
Also, that whole thread is just...
"Just because we want to eliminate communism doesn't mean that we want to eliminate communists"
It really validates Sartre's famous quote about debating authoritarians.
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Ocean treaty: Historic agreement reached after decade of talks
Countries have reached a landmark agreement to put 30% of the world's oceans into protection.
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What a self serving idiot. Why not just do it because it’s the truth versus what it’ll look like?
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