***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[biggie62]

Sen. Mike Braun said interracial marriage ruling should be left to states

INDIANAPOLIS — In a media call on Tuesday, U.S Senator Mike Braun (R-Ind) said that the U.S. Supreme Court was wrong to legalize interracial marriage in a ruling that stretches back to Loving v. Vi…

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The new governor of Indiana.

It's quite a few in here who are celebrating a Trump victory while their marriage may become illegal in some states, especially with a potential, fully conservative SC bench...

Let’s not forget. He’s probably going to replace 2 more judges this term with Roberts and Thomas retiring. And if a dem appointed one were to pass away. Well say hello to a SC super majority for the next 30 plus years.

 

[3900stabler]

My brother just told me that his wife said Kamala lost because she was too qualified for the job. Might be the most ridiculous thing I have heard.

Now she talking about leaving the country.

Hehehehe.

I just don't get all this paranoia about a Trump reelection.

 

[Betonblck]

I don’t know if that was the best. I think if he stayed and had another bad debate he would have been washed even more unfortunately. The inflation and border issues were going to hurt the Dems no matter who was running.

I'm not saying he would have won, but it would have been way closer than Harris. It's exactly why the base was initially pissed when the other Democrats turned against him after the debate. They literally sabotaged the election. The base new this country was not going to vote for Kamala after they didnt come out for Hilary. We then saw the huge Harris rallies and got a false sense of confidence that it would translate to election day. It didn't.

 

[keko jones]

I advocate for policies that limit corporations and foreign investors from purchasing residential properties—particularly those intended primarily as rental investments. Additionally, I support states imposing restrictions on Airbnb rentals to help stabilize the housing market and enhance affordability for local buyers. While some may view these measures as bold, IMO they directly address the growing concerns around housing availability and affordability in many communities.

 

[tay1]

Bro minimum wage hikes don’t raise prices as dramatically as businesses like to make it out to be. When Washington and Seattle did it it barely changed the price. This is such a moot talking point.

That’s like a perfect case study since it’s so expensive to live there as is.

California's $20 fast food minimum wage didn't lead to major job losses, study finds​

California's $20 fast food minimum wage didn't lead to major job losses, study finds

A study from UC Berkely found that a law raising California's minimum wage for fast food workers did not cost the sector jobs.

www.usatoday.com

 

[osh kosh bosh]

If the broader left were cohesive they’d start a “Project 2032” which would be a sustained effort to increase voter registration and involvement for the next 8 years. Moreover, they should have permanent field offices and use them to hire part time and full time canvassers. The Democratic Party would be a thing in your neighborhood, you’d know some who was hired by them and it would make the Democratic Party less of this that is only on TV and who might knock on your door once every four years.

maaaan after two trump wins with no ground game, at what point do we just totally write off this canvasing nonsense.


that **** does not seem to work.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I advocate for policies that limit corporations and foreign investors from purchasing residential properties—particularly those intended primarily as rental investments.

this is a bad policy that mostly helps rich people and hurts poor people.

Additionally, I support states imposing restrictions on Airbnb rentals to help stabilize the housing market and enhance affordability for local buyers. While some may view these measures as bold, IMO they directly address the growing concerns around housing availability and affordability in many communities.

a whatever policy that will mostly not do anything to help affordability.

 

[keko jones]

this is a bad policy that mostly helps rich people and hurts poor people.



a whatever policy that will mostly not do anything to help affordability.

Iight, I'm listening.

 

[keko jones]

California's $20 fast food minimum wage didn't lead to major job losses, study finds​

California's $20 fast food minimum wage didn't lead to major job losses, study finds

A study from UC Berkely found that a law raising California's minimum wage for fast food workers did not cost the sector jobs.

www.usatoday.com

The study said that consumers absorbed about 62% of the cost increases caused by the law.

 

[superantigen]

Wouldn’t read too much into this. Markets hate uncertainty and things just got a lot more certain

Yes, it's certain that the Billionaires are about to eat very well in the coming years. That's why the market rallied.

These working class goofies that voted for Trump thinking he's about to do right by them are in for a very very rude awakening. Deregulation, tax cuts, the kneecapping of the labor movement, the concentration of corporate power through anti competitive M&A...the market is expecting all of this and that's why it rallied. The capitalist are about to wreak havoc and when the bill comes due, it will be painful and I trust very expensive for the median American.


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[osh kosh bosh]

Iight, I'm listening.

corporate home ownership bans, foreign ownership bans do little to increase the supply of housing.

what they mostly do is allow cash rich americans who have a downpayment ready to go to purchase a home that would have been rented to a lower income person.

they did a study on this

• Two studies on Rotterdam, where they restricted investor-owned rental housing in certain neighborhoods, found that home prices did not decrease in the year following the policy.
  
  • Home ownership did increase, but conversely, rental availability went down (because investor-owned units are often rented out), and rental prices increased by 4%.
  • Because of the shift away from renter-occupancy, the demographics of these neighborhoods saw fewer young people and immigrants and more higher income people—gentrification, effectively

so renters face higher prices while some lucky rich people gets to buy.

most effective way to lower prices is to increase the supply of homes.

aka build more of them.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

In 2020, I genuinely believed Bernie was the right choice. He was leading, and even Elizabeth Warren supported him, but then Biden unexpectedly surged to victory. That moment highlighted how the Democratic Party, despite its public message, wasn’t necessarily aligned with the grassroots. Bernie truly represented the middle and lower classes, and while some of his ideas were radical, they were still a better option than Trump’s. His policies, didn’t align with the wealthy elites who hold influence over the system.

Meanwhile, the Republicans have ultimately secured a significant win long term (SC), and we’ll have to face the impacts, both positive and negative. Trump has some proposals that could be disastrous if implemented, but all we can do now is navigate these next 2/4 years and hope for the best.

you have this backwards. the grass roots rejected bernie.

bernie has never been able to win enough black moderate voters to win a primary.



but people think it would magically different in the general.

 

[mister friendly]

I'm not saying he would have won, but it would have been way closer than Harris. It's exactly why the base was initially pissed when the other Democrats turned against him after the debate. They literally sabotaged the election. The base new this country was not going to vote for Kamala after they didnt come out for Hilary. We then saw the huge Harris rallies and got a false sense of confidence that it would translate to election day. It didn't.

Idk Biden was really unpopular I rarely heard anyone speak well of him before he stopped his campaign.

Why do you think he would’ve done better?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

my goat columnist is correct.

 

[Betonblck]

Idk Biden was really unpopular I rarely heard anyone speak well of him before he stopped his campaign.

Why do you think he would’ve done better?

Biden was always more popular with non-college educated men. He connected with that demographic in the blue wall states and the southern Jim Clyburn democrats felt a loyalty to him for his time with Obama.

Biden was always going to pull similar numbers with Black men and women as Kamala. His advantage was that he would pick up more non college educated white men.

 

[essential1]

The study said that consumers absorbed about 62% of the cost increases caused by the law.

“The study found that after the law went into effect prices saw a one-time increase of 3.7%, or about 15 cents for a $4 item. The study said that consumers absorbed about 62% of the cost increases caused by the law.”


Just an observation with a question. WalMarts, Targets, fast food etc have eliminated cashier positions in lieu of self checkout and self order.
Did prices decrease with a decrease in labor cost?


Also this is different from inflation. Most meaning a majority of people wouldn’t blink an eye at this 4% increase in cost when it comes with a collective good. Inflation does not provide a collective good. Raising the minimum wage does.

BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Democratic Party could do a better job with messaging about how an increase in minimum wage is a positive impact. Increasing the minimum wage also has significant reset power in the positive to workers to the job market and gives some power for all workers.

 

[hoosier bad boy 11]

https://www.reddit.com/r/johnoliver/s/FPsnCZEK6K

 

[ntva28]

Cnn showed a picture of the possible secretary of states under Trump. And one name was Elon Musk

This is unreal.

 

[keko jones]

corporate home ownership bans, foreign ownership bans do little to increase the supply of housing.

what they mostly do is allow cash rich americans who have a downpayment ready to go to purchase a home that would have been rented to a lower income person.

they did a study on this

• Two studies on Rotterdam, where they restricted investor-owned rental housing in certain neighborhoods, found that home prices did not decrease in the year following the policy.
  • Home ownership did increase, but conversely, rental availability went down (because investor-owned units are often rented out), and rental prices increased by 4%.
  • Because of the shift away from renter-occupancy, the demographics of these neighborhoods saw fewer young people and immigrants and more higher income people—gentrification, effectively

so renters face higher prices while some lucky rich people gets to buy.

most effective way to lower prices is to increase the supply of homes.

aka build more of them.

While this study offers some insights, I believe it has limitations, particularly since it was conducted outside the U.S., where housing market dynamics may differ significantly. In the U.S., corporate buyers often make all-cash offers and buy properties in bulk, which might not inflates housing prices but definitely makes it harder for typical buyers to afford a home. This also decreases the availability of properties for individual buyers, especially impacting first-time buyers and those with tighter budgets. Additionally, when these corporations convert properties into rentals, it transforms privately owned neighborhoods into corporate-owned rentals, monopolizing the local rental market and driving up rents due to scarcity.

While there is also an urgent need to address the shortage of new homes, addressing corporate dominance in existing housing is a crucial first step.

To further illustrate the stronghold these corporations have in metro areas, consider this data: "Invitation Homes owned 12,726 rental houses in metro Atlanta at the end of 2023. The company exercised its market power by raising the average rent there by 7.1% last year, according to its annual reports, while the area’s median home price rose only 1.3%, per the National Association of Realtors. In addition, Invitation Homes adds up to $145 in mandatory monthly fees on top of rent, such as $40 for smart home technology, $9.95 for quarterly air filter delivery, $9.95 for utility billing management, and up to $85 for internet."

 

[gry60]

Cnn showed a picture of the possible secretary of states under Trump. And one name was Elon Musk

This is unreal.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Elon Musk as SoS.

Elon Musk in charge of foreign policy.

The guy who does Space X (so he has the know how to develop ICBMs)

The guy who has been having regular talks with Putin for two years, unbeknownst to the legislature

The guy who also controls Starlink, which Ukrainians rely on in their war effort.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

We're in trouble....

 

[gry60]

Might as well rename the thread Fools Wildin' Vol. 2024-2028

The realization at the end.

 

[keko jones]

Might as well rename the thread Fools Wildin' Vol. 2024-2028

The realization at the end.

This Charlie guy is pathetic. He went full extremist during the race, even going as far as calling any veterans who supported Trump a disgrace.

But to he video, It's frustrating because these people are completely clueless about the potential consequences if Trump actually follows through with it. "They pay the tarrifs" ... jesus!

 

[gry60]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

While this study offers some insights, I believe it has limitations, particularly since it was conducted outside the U.S., where housing market dynamics may differ significantly. In the U.S., corporate buyers often make all-cash offers and buy properties in bulk, which might not inflates housing prices but definitely makes it harder for typical buyers to afford a home.

you haven't explained why this would be different for the netherlands. they have corporations in the Netherlands who can make all cash offers and buy properties in bulk none of this is unique to america.

This also decreases the availability of properties for individual buyers, especially impacting first-time buyers and those with tighter budgets. Additionally, when these corporations convert properties into rentals, it transforms privately owned neighborhoods into corporate-owned rentals, monopolizing the local rental market and driving up rents due to scarcity.

you are just redescribing the study. yes you increase availability to richer buyers and you drive up rental costs for poorer renters.

you agree with the study you just ignore renters who don't have money for down payments. they will have to pay more with these bans.

While there is also an urgent need to address the shortage of new homes, addressing corporate dominance in existing housing is a crucial first step.

supply is everything.
all this other stuff are lies and distractions from the real problem. don't indulge them,.

To further illustrate the stronghold these corporations have in metro areas, consider this data: "Invitation Homes owned 12,726 rental houses in metro Atlanta at the end of 2023. The company exercised its market power by raising the average rent there by 7.1% last year, according to its annual reports, while the area’s median home price rose only 1.3%, per the National Association of Realtors. In addition, Invitation Homes adds up to $145 in mandatory monthly fees on top of rent, such as $40 for smart home technology, $9.95 for quarterly air filter delivery, $9.95 for utility billing management, and up to $85 for internet."

corporate owners tend to buy houses in supply constricted high demand areas. those are the most attractive properties.

you are trying to ban smoke in a bid to prevent fires.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Kamala outran Bernie in vermont,

I guess bernie abandoned the working class?