***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Public Enemy]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5011878-donald-trump-donald-trump-jr-mainstream-media-white-house-briefing-room/

"Donald Trump Jr., President-elect Trump’s eldest son, says his dad has discussed keeping some mainstream media outlets from the White House press briefing room.

Trump Jr., speaking on his podcast this week, said they discussed opening the briefing room to more independent journalists and social media influencers.

“We had the conversation about opening up the press room to a lot of these independent journalists,” he said.

“If The New York Times has lied, they’ve been averse to everything, they’re functioning as the marketing arm to the Democrat party,” Trump Jr. continued, asking, “Why not open it up to people who have larger viewerships, stronger followings?”

Trump has consistently ridiculed mainstream media outlets and broadcast networks over coverage that is critical of him.

On Tuesday, he railed against The New York Times over a story focusing on top aide Boris Epshteyn. An internal review conducted by the Trump transition team found that he solicited payments from candidates for top Cabinet positions.

Trump also recently sued CBS News over a “60 Minutes” interview with Vice President Harris and regularly mocks CNN calling it and others “fake news.”

 

[Public Enemy]

We're going to turn into a ****show by this time next year. Norms going out the window. Lies will stream forth from the white house and you'll have a random podcaster more interested in whatever they feel like talking about, than having knowledge of the history of the country and its policies and asking a relevant question.

Just because some outlets like the NYT or Fox News do a **** job at journalism half the time doesn't mean journalism isnt an actual thing with good publications. News Media holding people to account has been responsible for so many huge events it's not even worth going over it all because it should be self-evident.

If this idiot really goes through with this it's going to be a damn mess. For a whole host of reasons but a few are really a problem. Obviously because you'll have nonsense questions and nonsense answers and no real challenging (there will be ceremonial challenging) of what Trump is saying because they will know any real challenge and that's not just the end of your access, he'll get the trump mob to 'cancel' you. Like before, even if the President or administration didn't like you, it didn't mean you were out of a job. But these people will just suck up because they aren't going to want to lose their following overnight.

And if that does indeed happen that regular media isn't allowed to cover this administration, it'll be one or two devastating things in 2028, assuming we have elections. Either Vance will win and continue this nonsense and further distance us from normalcy and legitimacy, or a Democrat will win and all of a sudden all the norms will return and they will seem terrible by comparison because of the intense scrutiny that comes with ACTUAL media.

Feels like we've let a bunch of 8 year olds take over driving a car.

 

[aepps20]

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in here. I hope those in the states that celebrate the holiday have a good time with their loved ones and friends. Please hug your loved ones and make sure that you eat plenty of and drink lots of today. If you don’t, you might have to unload a check left hook on a loved one because the prices of da eggs and da used to make da sweet potato and pumpkin pies left you NO CHOICE

 

[gry60]

Feels like we've let a bunch of 8 year olds take over driving a car.

That's how the public has always treated republicans: like children that don't know what they're doing.

Obviously because you'll have nonsense questions and nonsense answers and no real challenging (there will be ceremonial challenging) of what Trump is saying because they will know any real challenge and that's not just the end of your access,

To be fair (and blunt), what you're describing predates Trump.

I grew up with CNN International, and they did not shy away from asking hard questions when they interviewed troublesome, non-American political figures. It was a culture shock to discover that American journalists really do pull their punches when it comes to addressing American politicians' improprieties. For decades, CNN International and other American media outlets broadcasting for an international audience painted an image of the country that is line with how media in other democracies work, but once you're here, you realize that the US media generally goes along with whatever politicians say and uses spin to circumvent the duty to perform real-time fact-checking of the politicians they interview.

Spin and the fear of losing access undermined the legitimacy of the US media a long time ago. Trump and the GOP have simply stopped using legacy media as their communication vessel because they have developed another media ecosystem that they control better.

 

[Dark Brandon]

We're going to turn into a ****show by this time next year. Norms going out the window. Lies will stream forth from the white house and you'll have a random podcaster more interested in whatever they feel like talking about, than having knowledge of the history of the country and its policies and asking a relevant question.

Just because some outlets like the NYT or Fox News do a **** job at journalism half the time doesn't mean journalism isnt an actual thing with good publications. News Media holding people to account has been responsible for so many huge events it's not even worth going over it all because it should be self-evident.

If this idiot really goes through with this it's going to be a damn mess. For a whole host of reasons but a few are really a problem. Obviously because you'll have nonsense questions and nonsense answers and no real challenging (there will be ceremonial challenging) of what Trump is saying because they will know any real challenge and that's not just the end of your access, he'll get the trump mob to 'cancel' you. Like before, even if the President or administration didn't like you, it didn't mean you were out of a job. But these people will just suck up because they aren't going to want to lose their following overnight.

And if that does indeed happen that regular media isn't allowed to cover this administration, it'll be one or two devastating things in 2028, assuming we have elections. Either Vance will win and continue this nonsense and further distance us from normalcy and legitimacy, or a Democrat will win and all of a sudden all the norms will return and they will seem terrible by comparison because of the intense scrutiny that comes with ACTUAL media.

Feels like we've let a bunch of 8 year olds take over driving a car.

That's how the public has always treated republicans: like children that don't know what they're doing.

To be fair (and blunt), what you're describing predates Trump.

I grew up with CNN International, and they did not shy away from asking hard questions when they interviewed troublesome, non-American political figures. It was a culture shock to discover that American journalists really do pull their punches when it comes to addressing American politicians' improprieties. For decades, CNN International and other American media outlets broadcasting for an international audience painted an image of the country that is line with how media in other democracies work, but once you're here, you realize that the US media generally goes along with whatever politicians say and uses spin to circumvent the duty to perform real-time fact-checking of the politicians they interview.

Spin and the fear of losing access undermined the legitimacy of the US media a long time ago. Trump and the GOP have simply stopped using legacy media as their communication vessel because they have developed another media ecosystem that they control better.

Dems need to win back all 3 branches and codify the Fairness Doctrine.

 

[SlatanicPanic]

 

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