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Giuliani was a **** show and a racist

People forgot he got a popularity boost because of 9/11

Bloomberg happily pushed Stop-n-Frisk, ignored the clear racism involved in its implementation, even after a Federal judge found it violated black people's rights

DeBlasio was better than both

No poll will show that DeBlasio was better or had higher approval ratings than Guliani or Bloomberg.

You're not getting a perfect mayor in NYC :lol:
 
Ryan Grim is horrible

No one should take him seriously. He is a Jimmy Dore level dishonest grifter that just hates the Dems and that is his starting point for everything.

Dude was online saying he was cool if Trump took Greenland, because if America is gonna go colonization might as well be in a less populated place. Dude isn't principled at all.
 
Ok, so what, I don't give a ****

That is not the definitive answer to who was better

Sorry if I have a problem with racists and black people's rights being violated

Everyone should have a problem with racism. This is the most diverse city in the world, that's still not an excuse.

So now polls dont matter? Approval ratings dont matter?

DiBlasio was a bigger POS than you give him credit for
 
Everyone should have a problem with racism. This is the most diverse city in the world, that's still not an excuse.

So now polls dont matter? Approval ratings dont matter?

DiBlasio was a bigger POS than you give him credit for
The question was not who was more popular

I was who did a better job

Trump has his highest approvals ever right now, and he is the most destructive he has ever been. So yes, polls matter but they are not everything.
 


i think this is the way. ignore the DEI bait. focus on basic competency.


"these guys are incompetent psyhos and trump is too busy golfing to stop them."

I agree

If someone mentions DEI, they should mainly be calling it out as a way for Trump to try to distract people from the ****** job he is doing.

Don't get trapped in Trump's framing. That is what he wants
 
Trump has his highest approvals ever right now, and he is the most destructive he has ever been. So yes, polls matter but they are not everything.

I do think for presidential races approval ratings/voting is different than a city's mayor though. The city got the same main issue always. Safety. Thats probably the main thing most NYers care about.

In 2016 Hilary won the popular vote.

This time around Trumps approvals/ratings were so high mainly because of how badly Democrats **** the bed. Alot of these voters knew of how destructive Trump is capable of being yet didnt care.
 
I do think for presidential races approval ratings/voting is different than a city's mayor though. The city got the same main issue always. Safety. Thats probably the main thing most NYers care about.

In 2016 Hilary won the popular vote.

This time around Trumps approvals/ratings were so high mainly because of how badly Democrats **** the bed. Alot of these voters knew of how destructive Trump is capable of being yet didnt care.
This post is a world salad

What point are you actually even trying to make?
 
This post is a world salad

What point are you actually even trying to make?

Youre saying the people dont know **** and are using this presidential race as your reasoning.

I'm saying a city mayors approval ratings compared to the presidents is a completely different ball game.
 
Youre saying the people dont know **** and are using this presidential race as your reasoning.
I didn't say this, and I didn't use a presidential race

It is shocking how you always do this. Not read what someone tells you, then talk past them in return

I am saying that using polling as a definitive measure for successful governing is flawed. And I used Trump as an example.

I'm saying a city mayors approval ratings compared to the presidents is a completely different ball game.

This had nothing to do with the discussion, at all

For some reason you want to change the goalpost to something else.

Plus they are not that different. All you are saying is that different things might put sway, ok. Plus they population demographics are different. But that doesn't undermine the way I used polling in my argument

You didn't make any argument as to why polling should be used as a measure of good governance
 
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I do think for presidential races approval ratings/voting is different than a city's mayor though. The city got the same main issue always. Safety. Thats probably the main thing most NYers care about.

In 2016 Hilary won the popular vote.

This time around Trumps approvals/ratings were so high mainly because of how badly Democrats **** the bed. Alot of these voters knew of how destructive Trump is capable of being yet didnt care.

I disagree

I’d argue, the biggest problem this time around was a failure of journalism in America in conjunction with the known conservative entities having such a loud voice.. and the value of the truth being lost in America and stupidity being celebrated and encouraged

You can still see it now where people are coming around to the realization of what they actually got themselves into and attempting to blame someone else other than their ignorance.. so for example, they say Kamala and Dems didn’t have a plan and said plan will get thrown in their face or things they would have said just a few months ago will get thrown back in their faces given they now want the democrats as a shield

But for news entities in the US, they are more concerned about the business of news and their failing ratings without the realizations of their own choices along the way.. CNN being the perfect example, CNN my whole life was a brand known as a particular standard.. and trump used them a a target.. but as their ratings fell they thought being fox lite would be the smart move instead of doing their jobs competently and thus ending up further bleeding viewers.. this also happened with MSNBC.. for far too long news entities had the conflated belief of covering stories by both sides = balanced coverage; which really ended up with they blowing something small by 1 side into a way bigger deal because of the horrific things it was being compared to on the other, along with the even bigger problem of creating way different standards for either side.. and republicans and trump took advantage of it

Nothing more demonstrates this than all the think pieces that got written about biden for any small error from a man that been known for a stutter and gaffes since the 80s or 90s.. and yet you had very obvious examples of the exact same things happening on the other side happening but because same things didn’t actually get treated the same, it wouldn’t even be a story for a day on the other side
 
Trump has his highest approvals ever right now, and he is the most destructive he has ever been. So yes, polls matter but they are not everything.

No one is moving goal posts. Is this not using the presidential race in your argument?

How would YOU rate a mayor? What did your DiBlasio accomplish?
 
Guy is a vile racist POS who will NEVER take accountability for anything!

That man’s whole life is the same damn story over and over again

Got over 50 years of him being publicly loudly racist

And got over 50 years of public evidence of dude never taking accountability for anything

America going have to learn the hard way

The USFL is the perfect analogy for dude.. had a legit thing but of course he f it up publicly and obvious.. and Americans love football but the majority of people who claim to love the sport got zero clue of what actually going on, go ask random Americans at a bar about who the 3 tech or 5 tech or zero tech on the field is and see who actually gives the right answer
 
No one is moving goal posts. Is this not using the presidential race in your argument?
This was my post...

The question was not who was more popular

I was who did a better job

Trump has his highest approvals ever right now, and he is the most destructive he has ever been. So yes, polls matter but they are not everything.

So which presidential race did I reference? 2016, 2020, or 2024?

I was talking about approval polls

This post is literally on this page, there was no reason for you to act this dense

How would YOU rate a mayor? What did your DiBlasio accomplish?
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