***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[RustyShackleford]

Obamacare is as right as it is because the best left parts of it were cut. The right and the industry already killed the public option, and starved non-profit co-ops.

And even then, the OG ACA is something no conservative would have suggested even in the times of Hillarycare. The most liberal Republicans in the Senate would still want to se the plan more right, and the public option would be laughed out the room.

Even so, the biggest accomplishments of the ACA are the preexisting conditions regulations, and extending Medicaid. This would signal which direction the pendulum should swing to make the law better.

Can you think of a possible right wing response to health care reform?


Because my thing is that, I don't think you could make Obamacare any more conservative unless your goal was to have it do nothing.

You should look up McCain 2008 health care plan. He had a decent outline of what the conservative visions would be.

If I remember correctly is was basically:

Basically stop giving employers tax credits to provide insurance, and give it directly to people, insurance "compete" on a national marketplace.

-I think we focus to much on the market place. Yes that part is straight up out libertarian playbook. But it is the subsidies and regulation is what the GOP really have a problem with. And they can't criticize those, because those are the most popular parts of the law.

So instead they have to sabotage the most high profile part of the law, the exchanges, to give them an angle to argue the entire thing must go.

Just watch how the GOP is gonna start talking about Obamacare breaking Medicare, and it needing reforms too.

 

[sfc415]

Word,his policies are gonna be drafted up by the same GOP elites that have been around for decades

His base only genuinely cares about "da identity politics"

Yup, they only wanted an excuse to openly abuse the immigrants that outperform them in education, income, looks, hygeine, etc.

 

[rolaholic]

Looks and hygiene though

 

[green rhino123]

Yup, they only wanted an excuse to openly abuse the immigrants that outperform them in education, income, looks, hygeine, etc.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Basically stop giving employers tax credits to provide insurance, and give it directly to people, insurance "compete" on a national marketplace.

Yeah but I can't think any health care policy person left or right doesn't realize that doesn't make any cot danm sense.


Can't have a national market place when each state got different health care regs, conservatives must understand this.?? No?



I wonder what a conservative health care policy wonk thinks they should do with health care.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Word,his policies are gonna be drafted up by the same GOP elites that have been around for decades

His base only genuinely cares about "da identity politics"

Yup, they only wanted an excuse to openly abuse the immigrants that outperform them in education, income, looks, hygeine, etc.

 

[green rhino123]

Yeah but I can't think any health care policy person left or right doesn't realize that doesn't make any cot danm sense.


Can't have a national market place when each state got different health care regs, conservatives must understand this.?? No?

Ya, some states had their own version of ObamaCare before Obama Care...ie how they were calling it RomneyCare in Mass...before ObamaCare started

 

[green rhino123]

Anyone in here spend time in public protest over the past couple days?

 

[rolaholic]

Man,how the hell is Sarah Palin being floated around for a cabinet position? :x :x

Thought even the GOP had enough of her

 

[Mr.Guy]

Man,how the hell is Sarah Palin being floated around for a cabinet position?

Thought even the GOP had enough of her

Golden yambs.

 

[MVP]

LAUSD Substitute Teacher Fired For Telling Student Her Parents Will Be Deported https://t.co/gT2chAjBCb https://t.co/ErhSYGN2rS

Deplorables gonna deplore

 

[green rhino123]

Man,how the hell is Sarah Palin being floated around for a cabinet position? :x :x

Thought even the GOP had enough of her

recent pics?

 

[green rhino123]

LAUSD Substitute Teacher Fired For Telling Student Her Parents Will Be Deported https://t.co/gT2chAjBCb https://t.co/ErhSYGN2rS

Deplorables gonna deplore

 

[EddieDoyers]

Anyone in here spend time in public protest over the past couple days?

Nah
Not keen into doing SJW stuff even though I think Trump is pretty terrible for the economy and racial relations
Just think there are better avenues to pursue instead of crying over an L

 

[seandon23]

Nah
Not keen into doing SJW stuff even though I think Trump is pretty terrible for the economy and racial relations
Just think there are better avenues to pursue instead of crying over an L

I don't mind the protests. They do have the right to assemble but I am curious to see what would've happened if Trump had to concede and what his followers would have done

 

[everysingletime]

Someone brought up a good point today. Trump was quick to condemn the protests against his being elected, but he has yet to condemn the KKK marches in his honor.

Still don't think he has done it yet

 

[MVP]

I don't mind the protests. They do have the right to assemble but I am curious to see what would've happened if Trump had to concede and what his followers would have done

Some of em terrorizing people and they won, I think a protest would be the least of the problems.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yeah but I can't think any health care policy person left or right doesn't realize that doesn't make any cot danm sense.


Can't have a national market place when each state got different health care regs, conservatives must understand this.?? No?

Ya, some states had their own version of ObamaCare before Obama Care...ie how they were calling it RomneyCare in Mass...before ObamaCare started

Romeycare is similar to Obamacare because they have the same architect, Jonathan Gruber.

Romneycare is also so similar to Obamacare also because Dems ran the Mass. state house, and Mitt had to compromise and pass a moderate plan.

Romneycare was never the preferred plan of the right.

 

[seandon23]

Some of em terrorizing people and they won, I think a protest would be the least of the problems.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking as well and there are news stories I've seen where deplorables been going extra hard. I was wondering if they would've went back to being the "silent majority" again

 

[EddieDoyers]

Nah
Not keen into doing SJW stuff even though I think Trump is pretty terrible for the economy and racial relations
Just think there are better avenues to pursue instead of crying over an L

I don't mind the protests. They do have the right to assemble but I am curious to see what would've happened if Trump had to concede and what his followers would have done

Whether it be anti Trump or anti Clinton, protesting out there won't do a goddamn thing to the ballot that was already casted. We should just learn our mistakes from this loss and work on being more progressive so we do better by 2020. That's just my opinion.

But in general, I'm against the violence being inflicted.

 

[green rhino123]

Romeycare is similar to Obamacare because they have the same architect, Jonathan Gruber.

They even have signs, at least at some Mass hospitals, that say no one will be turned down for health care whether they are insured or not.
At the door, in the elevators & whatnot.

 

[Mr.Guy]

Yup, they only wanted an excuse to openly abuse the immigrants that outperform them in education, income, looks, hygeine, etc.

That ether.

 

[MVP]

This was a conseqential election for a lot of people, especially in what seems like an affirmation of the divisive rhetoric Drumpf spewed during his campaign. I have no issue with people venting and letting steam off as long as it's in a peaceful manner. There's legit fear among many groups because of the things he said which hasn't been present in past elections in our lifetimes.

This election as stated before wasn't one about policy, but at the very core a character litmus test of what this country is and wants to be going forward, an inclusive one
or intolerant one.

 

[pmatic]

Pop.

 

[ksteezy]

This the same KSTEEZY beasting over Nike Air Yeezys a couple of years ago?? if so, your more of a clown that I figured lol!

You remember what I was doing a couple of years ago...I'm flattered fam, thanks for keeping up