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Politifacts is biased but CL is legit.

:lol That's the deplorable base for ya... Uneducated Voters!

These deplorables stay deplorable even after this election and probably after 4 years cause their lives will still be stuck in the gutter. These rust belt states are gonna fail even worst while the Blue States gonna keep on succeeding and prosper cause educated citizens usually can adjust regardless of whatever policy is enacted. There is a reason why the economical giants in the union are BLUE states!
 
Politifacts is biased but CL is legit.

:lol That's the deplorable base for ya... Uneducated Voters!

These deplorables stay deplorable even after this election and probably after 4 years cause their lives will still be stuck in the gutter. These rust belt states are gonna fail even worst while the Blue States gonna keep on succeeding and prosper cause educated citizens usually can adjust regardless of whatever policy is enacted. There is a reason why the economical giants in the union are BLUE states!
See, this is one of the main problems why the DNC lost though, they didn't do enough to address the concerns of the blue collar workers out there in the rust belt and Midwest.
Trump's plans to artificially create an energy market is going to be a short term gain for those workers...but in the long run it won't pan out to better and cheaper energy sources along with automation. However, the rust belt workers would rather take the work and be paid mediocrely for it. Pretty close to slave labor. Oh well, you reap what you sow.
 
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Trump hasn't even been officially inaugurated as President,and he is already backing up on all of his promises.Hopefully,he won't be that bad after all.Today,he said that he would deport three million immigrants with criminal records and called the ones with no records "terrific,hard-working people."
 
Trump hasn't even been officially inaugurated as President,and he is already backing up on all of his promises.Hopefully,he won't be that bad after all.Today,he said that he would deport three million immigrants with criminal records and called the ones with no records "terrific,hard-working people."

So basically doing what Obama has been doing. Con-man extraordinare.
 
https://theintercept.com/2016/04/03/trump-campaign-spread-dirty-meme-paid-protesters/

and since you guys are so gullible.... i left you a pile of brownies in the toilet. mmmmm!

project veritas makes your anecdotal claim irrelevant.
Look at you using the Roger Stone tactics. They must be proud of you.

One: I was referring to the multiple posts above about craigslist ads, not your post about veritas.

Two: It is not anecdotal. The article lays out a fairly deliberate and widespread attempt to fool the public.

Three: It is not a claim. It is fairly well researched.

Four: It is not irrelevant. It is 100% relevant to the posts above about the craigslist ads.

Critical thought is of the utmost importance, especially when we are dealing with devils like Roger Stone and his useful idiot Donald Trump.

all those paragraphs, to jist deflect da project veritas videos that got 2 Democratic operatives canned :lol
 
John Oliver blacked out last night omg. Dude had so much ether for that idiot.

2 bad he's 0-2 on Brexit & da US elections.

in what ways? You mean in predicting the outcome?

Well yea. I'm sure he's like most of us...he gave the people too much credit and underestimated the level of ignorance and stupidity that they could truly reach.

Is it really a shot at him for predicting wrong?

You're literally the only person I know that said Trump would be prez. And even you were just guessing. 50% blue or red. This truly is the matrix b.
 
Once Brexit happened I knew this could happen, Americans are just as stupid as Brits if not more
 
Ninjas logic equates to someone predicting that the Cavs wouldn't come back down from 3-1 (since you know it hadn't ever been done in the finals before) somehow discredits all of their basketball acumen. No matter them playing the game, analyzing it or whatever expertise they have. It doesn't work that way.

Just as him being right on who wins the election somehow meaning he's also now an expert on economics, energy, etc. just cause he got the winner right.
 
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The CBS interview gave Trump some tough questions. For the most part I think he handled it well. He came off as a whole lot more presidential and reasonable. I doubt he'll keep his promise that he won't touch gay marriage though. He did say he'll pick pro-life supreme court justices.

Which by itself is already a setback to policies that should've stayed in the medieval times, but anti-abortion and anti-homosexuality usually go hand in hand. Doubt there's any of those anti-abortion biblethumpers out there who don't at least have a negative view of homosexuality.
 
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From what I know, it seems like Trump is going to leave abortion policies to the states. So if you need an abortion you just have to travel across state lines. Inconvenient, but it's a compromise. The topic of abortion is a hard one for me. I sympathize with both sides.

I feel if you must do it it's got to be early. I hate late term abortion when they already got hands and feet and other body parts.
 
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From what I know, it seems like Trump is going to leave abortion policies to the states. So if you need an abortion you just have to travel. Inconvenient, but it's a compromise. The topic of abortion is a hard one for me. I sympathize with both sides.

I feel if you must do it it's got to be early. I hate late term abortion when they already got hands and feet and other body parts.

I understand the woman's right but baby's develop a heartbeat as early as 5weeks so to me, anything after that is no bueno
 
5 weeks. I'm a nurse and I forgot this. It's really 5 weeks? Damn. That puts most ppl in a tough spot cuz I know some won't know they pregnant until after 5 weeks. Yea, after a heartbeat develops that's just tough for me.

And when it looks like a ***** baby already...it's really uneasy for me
 
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From what I know, it seems like Trump is going to leave abortion policies to the states. So if you need an abortion you just have to travel. Inconvenient, but it's a compromise. The topic of abortion is a hard one for me. I sympathize with both sides.

I feel if you must do it it's got to be early. I hate late term abortion when they already got hands and feet and other body parts.
The term limit on abortion here is 12 weeks, I think that's fine. In case of medical emergency it can be performed at any time but the mother's health would have to be at serious risk.

Certain red states would undoubtedly ban abortion. Sure they can drive to a different state but imagine if you're a woman who got raped and you're carrying your rapist's child. You want to get rid of it but the state tells you no you don't have the right to terminate a rape pregnancy here. Forcing them to go to another state just adds insult to injury.

And banning abortion seems like it would increase unsafe abortions again, regardless of whether it's allowed in other nearby states.

I certainly understand why someone would object to abortion but I think it's infringing on basic human rights to force abortion bans on everyone. Tim Kaine for example personally objects to it but he supports pro-choice legislation.
 
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I know. That's what I mean by I sympathize with both sides. Imagine getting raped by your dad or someone in your family and you're forced to carry it to term. That makes me uneasy too.

It's one of the toughest topics for me.

A lot of things are cut and dry for me.

Racial equality. That's easy.

LGBT rights. That's easy.

Voting rights. Easy.

So on and so on.

Abortion is hard.
 
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I don't really want to get into an argument about abortion, but a man telling a woman what she can and can't do with her body is just wrong on so many levels.
 
I know. That's what I mean by I sympathize with both sides. Imagine getting raped by your dad or someone in your family and you're forced to carry it to term. That makes me uneasy too.

It's one of the toughest topics for me.

A lot of things are cut and dry for me.

Racial equality. That's easy.

LGBT rights. That's easy.

Voting rights. Easy.

So on and so on.

Abortion is hard.

Yea, in certain circumstances I have no problem w/ it but if you keep lettin dudes shoot the club up and u don't wanna have a baby, u need to start taking proper precautions, u and the dude(s).

I don't really want to get into an argument about abortion, but a man telling a woman what she can and can't do with her body is just wrong on so many levels.

If it were a panel of women doing it, would that make it ok then? Just wondering
 
I know. That's what I mean by I sympathize with both sides. Imagine getting raped by your dad or someone in your family and you're forced to carry it to term. That makes me uneasy too.

It's one of the toughest topics for me.
If I recall correctly Belgium was one of the first countries to legalize abortion. Religion is also much less of a factor here so there's less Mike Pence types trying to force medieval policies like banning gay marriage and abortion on the people. We're long past that stage. 

I was a nursing student so the topic came up numerous times in class. I know some people who are personally against it of course but I've yet to meet anyone who thinks it should be banned.

Objecting to it is fine, I just think trying to force pro-life legislation on everyone is crossing the line. Nobody is forcing these pro-lifers to have an abortion, but they want to prevent everyone else from having one.

A classmate of mine has MS and got his diagnosis shortly after he impregnated his wife. They ended up deciding to terminate the pregnancy because they feared the child would grow up with MS and have a horrible life. It was a very tough choice for them but I would've done the same thing. With a 50% chance of the child getting MS I'd rather terminate it than keep the child only to see him/her grow up in misery.
 
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