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I don't wanna hear any Christians ever talk about "religious freedoms" if they're being silent on the whole Muslim "registry" issue man,could you imagine the ****storm if it was the other way?

The extreme hypocrisy is sickening



Christians arent being silent

Christians see trump as the anti christ, they assume next he will make Christians register and then come the micro ships
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ney-general-good-people-dont-smoke-marijuana/
 
President-elect Donald Trump plans to nominate Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) to be attorney general of the United States, The Washington Post and other news outlets reported Friday. Sessions is a vocal opponent of marijuana legalization whose elevation to attorney general could deal a blow to state-level marijuana legalization efforts across the country.

At a Senate drug hearing in April, Sessions said that “we need grown-ups in charge in Washington to say marijuana is not the kind of thing that ought to be legalized, it ought not to be minimized, that it’s in fact a very real danger.” He voiced concern over statistics showing more drivers were testing positive for THC, the active component in marijuana, in certain states.

[Senators held a hearing to remind you that ‘good people don’t smoke marijuana’ (yes, really)]

Sessions further argued that a lack of leadership from President Obama had been one of the drivers of the trend toward marijuana legalization in recent years. “I think one of [Obama's] great failures, it's obvious to me, is his lax treatment in comments on marijuana,” Sessions said at the hearing. “It reverses 20 years almost of hostility to drugs that began really when Nancy Reagan started ‘Just Say No.’ ”

He added that lawmakers and leaders in government needed to foster “knowledge that this drug is dangerous, you cannot play with it, it is not funny, it’s not something to laugh about . . . and to send that message with clarity that good people don’t smoke marijuana.”
This guy is a real piece of work 
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The Bigot has to pay a $25 million settlement.

But Hillary is the crook, you see...

So our president elect, in his lifetime, has had to pay out settlements for discriminating against black people, and ripping off students.

Osh is right, American's have no idea what pure corruption is, like you see in African and developing countries. They go nuts about all this light smoke around Hillary, OMG WHAT IS IN HER EMIALS, but just watch this master finesse job Trump does on the country.

All he is doing to do is spend try to overheat the economy to talk about GDP growth numbers.
 
CROOK

So shameful,


Trumps elections as presidents will go down in Americas hall of shame.

Slavery, internment camp and native america genocide, trumps election
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One of the many lessons of the recent presidential election campaign and its repugnant outcome is that the age of identity liberalism must be brought to an end

told Rusty this about 100 times...he ain't wanna learn.

A convenient liberal interpretation of the recent presidential election would have it that Mr. Trump won in large part because he managed to transform economic disadvantage into racial rage — the “whitelash” thesis. This is convenient because it sanctions a conviction of moral superiority and allows liberals to ignore what those voters said were their overriding concerns. It also encourages the fantasy that the Republican right is doomed to demographic extinction in the long run — which means liberals have only to wait for the country to fall into their laps. The surprisingly high percentage of the Latino vote that went to Mr. Trump should remind us that the longer ethnic groups are here in this country, the more politically diverse they become.

said this about 100 times too... Rusty's liberalism aint wanna listen.

Finally, the whitelash thesis is convenient because it absolves liberals of not recognizing how their own obsession with diversity has encouraged white, rural, religious Americans to think of themselves as a disadvantaged group whose identity is being threatened or ignored. Such people are not actually reacting against the reality of our diverse America (they tend, after all, to live in homogeneous areas of the country). But they are reacting against the omnipresent rhetoric of identity, which is what they mean by “political correctness.”

its like a broken record in here :lol
 
One of the many lessons of the recent presidential election campaign and its repugnant outcome is that the age of identity liberalism must be brought to an end

told Rusty this about 100 times...he ain't wanna learn.

A convenient liberal interpretation of the recent presidential election would have it that Mr. Trump won in large part because he managed to transform economic disadvantage into racial rage — the “whitelash” thesis. This is convenient because it sanctions a conviction of moral superiority and allows liberals to ignore what those voters said were their overriding concerns. It also encourages the fantasy that the Republican right is doomed to demographic extinction in the long run — which means liberals have only to wait for the country to fall into their laps. The surprisingly high percentage of the Latino vote that went to Mr. Trump should remind us that the longer ethnic groups are here in this country, the more politically diverse they become.

said this about 100 times too... Rusty's liberalism aint wanna listen.

Finally, the whitelash thesis is convenient because it absolves liberals of not recognizing how their own obsession with diversity has encouraged white, rural, religious Americans to think of themselves as a disadvantaged group whose identity is being threatened or ignored. Such people are not actually reacting against the reality of our diverse America (they tend, after all, to live in homogeneous areas of the country). But they are reacting against the omnipresent rhetoric of identity, which is what they mean by “political correctness.”

its like a broken record in here :lol

You gave you an opinion, I disagreed.

And I disagree with some points in the article.

Simple

Every time Dems are seen supporting minorities to much, we here this ****:

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/19...344_1_white-men-president-clinton-white-house

OMG!!! White people hate being told the reality of being a minority in America, and are scared of being labeled racist. I'm not shedding a tear for them, they should try being victims of racism.

And ******* come off it. It is not just about identity politics with you, anything concerning justice for black people is inconsequential. I love how you skipped over the racial rage part too:rolleyes

White identity politics been flourishing on the right, for decades. Asking for class issues to take more of a spotlight in the DNC is one things, asking the DNC to leave minorities behind is another. One I will accept, the other I will leave the party as soon as they pull that ****.

And I love how an opinion piece from the NYT is suddenly cool, as long as you agree with it. Da hypocrisy
 
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One of the many lessons of the recent presidential election campaign and its repugnant outcome is that the age of identity liberalism must be brought to an end

told Rusty this about 100 times...he ain't wanna learn.

A convenient liberal interpretation of the recent presidential election would have it that Mr. Trump won in large part because he managed to transform economic disadvantage into racial rage — the “whitelash” thesis. This is convenient because it sanctions a conviction of moral superiority and allows liberals to ignore what those voters said were their overriding concerns. It also encourages the fantasy that the Republican right is doomed to demographic extinction in the long run — which means liberals have only to wait for the country to fall into their laps. The surprisingly high percentage of the Latino vote that went to Mr. Trump should remind us that the longer ethnic groups are here in this country, the more politically diverse they become.

said this about 100 times too... Rusty's liberalism aint wanna listen.

Finally, the whitelash thesis is convenient because it absolves liberals of not recognizing how their own obsession with diversity has encouraged white, rural, religious Americans to think of themselves as a disadvantaged group whose identity is being threatened or ignored. Such people are not actually reacting against the reality of our diverse America (they tend, after all, to live in homogeneous areas of the country). But they are reacting against the omnipresent rhetoric of identity, which is what they mean by “political correctness.”

its like a broken record in here :lol
Maybe, ninja, for the first time in a year, we can find some common ground here.

I don't think the left needs to change their policies or goals, but I do think they need to connect with middle America and let them know that their policies will improve everyone's lots by providing a social net and empowering the middle class. The article I posted yesterday (New Yorker interview with Obama) talked about this. Obama recognized from his Senate run the importance of connecting with rural whites in southern Illinois, and he was able to channel that experience during his run for president. Hillary failed to do that.

And I also think it has been harmful to label Trump supporters as bigots. Even though it's largely true, it can be ultimately counterproductive. I have done a lot of this myself but I'm trying, I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd...




Ultimately we need to return to talking about the issues. That's why I am constantly ranting in here about the harms of disinformation and the deep-seated problem with Trump's birther campaign. Those have served to distract us. Instead of having a dialogue about things that matter and finding common ground, we are stuck debating personalities and worried about **** we should not be worrying about in 2016.
 
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earlier this thread was deep in issues trade & energy but...

And ******* come off it. It is not just about identity politics with you, anything concerning justice for black people is inconsequential.

u can't help yourself :{ :lol

all i ever said as a 1st generation immigrant product, there should be no reason why minority folks of color come from other countries and flourish here can't be replicated with folks born here & got generations here...

but noooooo, identity politics all da time, to da detriment of da folks people wanna "protect & seek justice" but its really subtle condescending behavior.. almost like u dont believe in da people u seek justice for to be fine on their own free will.
 
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Democrats thinking they can win back the uneducated white vote is a fool's errand.

lmaoooooo ur so stubborn :lol :{

da Obama Coalition only worked with Obama... without working class white majority numbers, da Democratic party only exists in large numbers in 3-4 states...its literally a midterm away from becoming a regional party.
 
earlier this thread was deep in issues trade & energy but...

And ******* come off it. It is not just about identity politics with you, anything concerning justice for black people is inconsequential.

u can't help yourself :{ :lol

all i ever said as a 1st generation immigrant product, there should be no reason why minority folks of color come from other countries and flourish here can't be replicated with folks born here & got generations here...

but noooooo, identity politics all da time, to da detriment of da folks people wanna "protect & seek justice" but its really subtle condescending behavior.. almost like u dont believe in da people u seek justice for to be fine on their own free will.

Quick check of hands to the dudes in here.

When we have had deep discussion about the issues, especially economics, who has contributed more to those discussions? Me or Ninja?
 
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And Ninja, let us remember you resume:

1950s was a cakewalk and it was the best place for black people, dismissing voter suppression, championing stop-n-frisk, and ridin with Blco, You are a habitual line stepper.
 
Democrats thinking they can win back the uneducated white vote is a fool's errand.

lmaoooooo ur so stubborn :lol :{

da Obama Coalition only worked with Obama... without working class white majority numbers, da Democratic party only exists in large numbers in 3-4 states...its literally a midterm away from becoming a regional party.

You reading comprehension is in shambles apparently.

I didn't say they should try to appeal to them to build a broader coalition. I said they can't win them.

Same way the GOP can't win the Latino or Asian vote. They may perform better election to election, but they won't win that demographic.
 
And Ninja, let us remember you resume:

1950s was a cakewalk and it was the best place for black people, dismissing voter suppression, championing stop-n-frisk, and ridin with Blco, You are a habitual line stepper.

compared to da trans Arabic slave trade that was going on during da same time across da pond? absolutely.

your liberal indignation only works in da US
.. your no different then a liberal feminist who can't see how women are violated in Sharia ruled Countries. :{

NY times of all places just ethered your whole ideology...
 
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