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Rolaholic said:
"But state rights!"

@radleybalko: Spicer: DOJ will be "taking action" against states that have legalized recreational marijuana.
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Recreational weed ****** up that free slave labor.


itsaboutthattime said:
Newsweek INT.Verified account‏@Newsweek_INT 52s53 seconds ago

Trump says he wants to expand nuclear arsenal, make the U.S. 'top of the pack' http://bit.ly/2lwbb5u pic.twitter.com/NpXcLxnsAP





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+6k nuclear weapons isnt enough I guess :lol
 
AEA18 said:
Gry60 said:
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/...tment-to-Security-Council-Here-s-contact-info

The NSC is the most important security body in the White House, and no political operative - especially not this one - should have so much sway over the most important decisions impacting our domestic security and military policy.

Main Number: 202-224-4751

Call and express your opposition to Bannon's appointment to the NSC. If you're not sure what to say, here are some reasons to oppose the decision.
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The Senate Committee on Homeland Security is inviting comment and COUNTING CALLS before it decides whether to approve Steve Bannon’s appointment to the National Security Council. Call 202-224-4751. (You don’t have to talk to anyone, it goes right to voicemail)

Just say: "Hi my name is ___. I am from __ [give your state] and am an American citizen. I oppose Steve Bannon being confirmed to sit on our National Security Council."
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Repped!

Just called and left a message. Gotta get this pos bannon out the paint!
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I'm definitely doing this. Thanks.
 
Just called the number to oppose bannon. Had to use a fake name though, dont want to end up on that gestapo list, even though they have my phone number now :lol
 
Based Jesus said:
RIP sleazyy said:
 
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itsaboutthattime said:
Newsweek INT.Verified account‏@Newsweek_INT 52s53 seconds ago


Trump says he wants to expand nuclear arsenal, make the U.S. 'top of the pack' http://bit.ly/2lwbb5u pic.twitter.com/NpXcLxnsAP





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+6k nuclear weapons isnt enough I guess :lol
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Everyone knows that more dangerous nukes in the hands of egomaniacal men makes the entire world safer.
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Not dangerous, not dangerous, you're dangerous!
 
itsaboutthattime said:
The HillVerified account‏@thehill 15h15 hours ago
Chaffetz probing national park's tweet welcoming a national monument http://hill.cm/6AeROuA pic.twitter.com/U3ZLWJqtHN
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probe comes amid criticism against the Oversight chairman for not aggressively investigating the Trump administration for potential conflicts of interest or collusion with Russia.

Chaffetz recently launched a probe into Trump’s handling of classified intelligence information while on an open patio at his private Mar-a-Lago resort.

The chairman, however, chose not to probe former National Security Sdviser Michael Flynn over what contacts he had with the Russian government before Trump took office, saying the situation has "taken care of itself” after Flynn resigned earlier this month.
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Wasting time investigating a tweet about a national park monument :|

The worst people
 
amel223 said:
 
AEA18 said:
 
Gry60 said:
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/...tment-to-Security-Council-Here-s-contact-info
The NSC is the most important security body in the White House, and no political operative - especially not this one - should have so much sway over the most important decisions impacting our domestic security and military policy.

Main Number: 202-224-4751

Call and express your opposition to Bannon's appointment to the NSC. If you're not sure what to say, here are some reasons to oppose the decision.
If the mailbox is full, try again in a few hours. They empty the mailbox every day at noon EST (9:00 am PST) and every night. There's no limit to how often you can call.
Main Email: email the committee using this form

Committee Members: here are all 15 members of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and how to contact them directly. Just one call makes a difference and it takes less than 5 minutes.

Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) - Chairman

Direct: 414-276-7282
DC: 202-224-5323
Email
Claire McCaskil (D-Mo.) - Ranking Member

Direct: 816-421-1639
DC: 202-224-6154
Email
John McCain (R-Az.)

Direct: 602-952-2410
DC: 202-224-2235
Email
Rob Portman (R-Oh.)

Direct: 513-684-3265
DC: 202-224-3353
Email
Thomas R. Carper (D-De.)

Direct: 302-573-6291
DC: 202-224-2441
Email
Jon Tester (D-Mt.)

Direct: 406-252-0550
DC: 202-224-2644
Email
Rand Paul (R-Ky.)

Direct: 270-782-8303
DC: 202-224-4343
Email
James Lankford (R-Ok.)

Direct: 405-231-4941
DC: 202-224-5754
Email
Heidi Heitkamp (D-Nd.)

Direct: 701-258-4648
DC: 202-224-2043
Email
Gary C. Peters (D-Mi.)

Direct: 313-226-6020
DC: 202-224-6221
Email
Michael B. Enzi (R-Wy.)

Direct: 307-739-9507
DC: 202-224-3424
Email
John Hoeven (R-Nd.)

Direct: 701-250-4618
DC: 202-224-2551
Email
Margaret Hassan (D-Nh.)

Direct: 603-622-2204
DC: 202-224-3324
Email
Kamala Harris (D-Ca.)

Direct: 916-448 - 2787
DC: 202-224-3553
Email
Steve Daines (R-Mt.)

Direct: 406-245-6822
DC: 202-224-2651
Email
Click to expand...
URGENT ACTION:

The Senate Committee on Homeland Security is inviting comment and COUNTING CALLS before it decides whether to approve Steve Bannon’s appointment to the National Security Council. Call 202-224-4751. (You don’t have to talk to anyone, it goes right to voicemail)

Just say: "Hi my name is ___. I am from __ [give your state] and am an American citizen. I oppose Steve Bannon being confirmed to sit on our National Security Council."
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Repped!

Just called and left a message. Gotta get this pos bannon out the paint!
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I'm definitely doing this. Thanks.
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Left a VM
 
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/23/14703472/cpac-trump-travel-budget

Conservative activists refuse to believe Trump is spending more on travel than Obama
Updated by Jeff Stein Feb 23, 2017, 11:17am EST
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The Conservative Political Action Conference, being held this week in National Harbor. (Photo by NurPhoto/NurPhoto via Getty Images)
NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland — Sarah Chaulk says she remains “extremely bitter” about how much taxpayer money was spent on President Barack Obama’s travel and family vacations during his time in office.

“When Obama put his dog on Air Force One and then told us to give more to help poor people, it was a slap in the face to the entire country,” Chaulk, 60, a graphic designer from Columbus, Ohio, said on Wednesday at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), the marquee annual gathering for conservative activists.

Her friend Elaine Kent, 58, chimed in: “And when Michelle Obama and her friends went to Spain and spent millions of dollars on a vacation? They did so much nickel-and-diming of taxpayers."

They are less concerned — which is to say, not concerned at all — with recent reports that suggest President Trump cost taxpayers nearly as much in his first month in office as Obama did in a year. Their sentiments were widely shared here at CPAC, where attendees gave a wide array of explanations for why they were outraged by Obama’s travel spending but not Trump’s.


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“Mr. Obama went on so many vacations and played golf every week. The news media can say, ‘Trump went to Mar-a-Lago,’ and their hair catches on fire. But if they will look at this honestly — and I’m all for the truth — they’ll see Trump is just using his own resources and money to take care of things,” Chaulk said. “It doesn’t bother me one bit.”

Over the course of the Obama administration, outrage over the president’s travel expenses became a major talking point in right-wing circles. Though debunked by fact-checkers, one rumor claimed that first pup Bo Obama got his own personal flight to join the family in Hawaii. Another faulted Michelle Obama for her allegedly lavish Spanish getaway — though the Obamas personally paid for the bulk of its expenses.

Since taking office, Trump appears to have opened himself up to similar attacks. According to the Washington Post, Trump’s three trips to Mar-a-Lago have already cost a combined $10 million — compared with Obama’s average annual travel budget of $12 million. The Post reported that the first family’s “unusually elaborate lifestyle” poses massive new logistical hurdles, creating new strains on the Secret Service that could cost hundreds of millions of dollars.


Of course, the accusation of politically motivated reasoning — of dismissing conclusions that hurt your preferred party, candidate, or ideology — isn't limited to any part of the American political spectrum. It's nothing new, or particular to conservatives, for partisans to fit inconvenient facts into their preexisting narratives.

As Vox's Brian Resnick and Julia Belluz have written, research has found that people are remarkably adept at fitting new information to existing frameworks or beliefs:

We are often guided by our emotions and deeply held biases. Humans are also very adept at ignoring facts so that we can continue to see the world in a way that conforms to our preconceived notions. And simply stating factual information that contradicts those deeply held beliefs is often not enough to combat the spread of misinformation. And, frustratingly, research finds the more knowledgeable we are about politics, the more stubborn we get on politically charged topics. We use our smarts to protect the our political groups, and not to grapple with uncomfortable truths.
CPAC attendees: We don’t believe Trump’s trips are costing more than Obama’s

Grace Germany, a Trump voter unconcerned by his travel budget. (Jeff Stein/Vox)
On Wednesday, more than a dozen CPAC attendees greeted those reports with skepticism, hostility, and, in few occasions, mild concern.

Overwhelmingly, the most common reason they cited was that they didn’t trust the underlying story — because they didn’t trust the press to tell the truth.

Donald Ely, 83, a Pennsylvania Republican Party official, had heard the stories of Trump’s travel expenses. But he wasn’t sure he could trust them.

“I resented Obama going to all these places overseas, particularly because his agenda was anti-American,” Ely said. “But the way people make up the stories about the Trumps, I don’t know if I believe it. I don’t think it’s accurate.”

Similarly, Arthur Herstein, 74, a writer from Bowie, Maryland, said he was frustrated by Obama’s “over-the-top” vacation and travel expenses.

Still, Herstein said he doesn’t believe it’s the case that Trump is on pace to spend more on vacation and travel. He waved away a Washington Post story held up on a reporter’s phone.

“I believe that the story exists,” Herstein said. “But the facts in it can’t possibly be right. That absolutely can’t be right. How did Trump spend $10 million in one month and Obama spent $11 million in a year? It defies logic.”

Of course, the idea that Trump and his supporters are frustrated by the media is nothing new. But some CPAC attendees’ distrust of even government institutions ran strikingly deep.

“I don’t trust the bookkeepers. I don’t trust the people who say, ‘This president spent X and this president spent Y,’” said Roy Postel, 58, a real estate developer from near Chicago. “The whole bureaucracy is against Trump, so I’d like to know who is getting greased to tell us what Obama spent. I wouldn’t trust anyone with an estimate of what the Trump administration has spent on travel.”

CPAC attendees: Trump gave up a lot to become president
GOP Presidential Candidates Attend CPAC Conference In Washington DC
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When not blaming the news media, other conservatives at CPAC turned to different explanations for why Trump’s travel tab would outpace Obama’s.

Grace Germany, sporting an “Adios Obama” pin, said she was bothered that the Obamas would take a vacation with a “humongous entourage with all of their friends — and their friends’ friends — at taxpayer expense.”

She said it would bother her if Trump did the same, but that there’s no evidence he had so far. Asked about the Mar-a-Lago trips, Germany responded that they’re different because the Trump family is accustomed to staying in the Florida home — whereas, she said, the Obamas only started taking lavish trips once in office.

“That is what they had beforehand,” Germany said.

Like many others, Germany also pointed to Trump’s pledge to refuse the president’s $400,000 salary (one that appears to be true, even if it strikes critics as a stunt). If Trump was using taxpayer money for expensive travel, she reasoned, why wouldn’t he be taking the salary?

“You have to recognize that he’s not even taking a salary,” she said. “He’s not doing this for money.”

Kent, of Ohio, also argued that Trump’s weekend getaways to Mar-a-Lago don’t amount to vacations, since he’s held some official meetings and press conferences while at his Florida home.

“When they say ‘Mar-a-Lago,’ that’s not a vacation. He’s wearing suits — he’s clearly working,” Kent says. “It stuns me that they say he’s ‘on vacation.’ I say, ‘What vacation?’”

To be sure, not everyone at CPAC dismissed criticisms of Trump’s travel expenses out of hand. In particular, the three youngest attendees interviewed — all under 30 — admitted to being concerned.

For instance, Ryan Errotabere, a 24-year-old wearing a Make America Great Again hat, said he could be troubled by the news but needed to see more. “I’d approach it the same way if a government corporation was spending too much money,” agreed Coleman Theodore, 19, of Charleston, South Carolina. “We shouldn’t be spending tens of millions of dollars traveling on vacations.”

But among the older CPAC attendees, the story tended to be simpler: Obama had ripped off taxpayers to travel abroad, and there was no reason to believe Trump was doing the same.

David Goodrige, a conservative who came from Australia for this year’s CPAC, said Obama “spent an unbelievable amount of money,” including multiple jets and helicopters. But whereas Trump had to pay for his family in New York to fly to Florida, Obama’s family lived in DC, Goodridge said.

“With Barron and Melania in New York, Trump has to have a much more diverse security detail, and that’s going to be more expensive,” Goodridge said. “If Obama had Sasha and Malia in New York, you’d see a similar security expense.”
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The level of delusion though :lol :lol :lol
 
next time some idiot tells me that trump already has all the money he needs so we can trust he's being selfless, I'm going to lay hands on them and send them to the hospital.

my patience is out.
 
Gry60 said:
Based Jesus said:
RIP sleazyy said:
 
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itsaboutthattime said:
Newsweek INT.Verified account‏@Newsweek_INT 52s53 seconds ago


Trump says he wants to expand nuclear arsenal, make the U.S. 'top of the pack' http://bit.ly/2lwbb5u pic.twitter.com/NpXcLxnsAP





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+6k nuclear weapons isnt enough I guess :lol
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Everyone knows that more dangerous nukes in the hands of egomaniacal men makes the entire world safer.
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Not dangerous, not dangerous, you're dangerous!
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2344743
 
:lol
@PaulaReidCBS:
BREAKING: Attorney General Jeff Sessions reverses Obama era DOJ efforts to reduce use of private prisons.

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Of course this follows up the threat to crack down on States with legal marijuana laws :lol :rolleyes
 
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Kent, of Ohio, also argued that Trump’s weekend getaways to Mar-a-Lago don’t amount to vacations, since he’s held some official meetings and press conferences while at his Florida home.

“When they say ‘Mar-a-Lago,’ that’s not a vacation. He’s wearing suits — he’s clearly working,” Kent says. “It stuns me that they say he’s ‘on vacation.’ I say, ‘What vacation?’”
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Wish I could pull this off at work:
My computer monitor is on, CLEARLY I'm working.

FOH
 
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