***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[whywesteppin]

The truest thing Michelle Wolf said about Trump was mentioning just how broke he is.

dude's been broke for decades. he constantly lies about his net worth because the reality it he has nothing.

that's the main reason why he won't release his tax returns.

 

[rexanglorum]

The unemployment rate doesn't tell us a whole lot about a current Presidency because it lags the business cycle and the business cycle lags policy decisions. The Business cycle, in many ways, has a life of its own and it often timesd at the whims of other Country's economic situations as well. Furthermore, the United States based institution that does affect the business cycle is the Fed (and if Congress were not controlled by Republicans it could have some say over the business cycle as well).

It's weak to cite a low unemployment rate in a society where 80% of the population has been experiencing declining material conditions over the last few decades. But, I'll give ya credit, at least you didn't trot out the DOW, a number even more unmoored from the reality of most Americans.

 

[gry60]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/business/multiemployer-pension-crisis.html

1.5 Million Retirees Await Congressional Fix for a Pension Time Bomb

 

[MalcolmNewton]

 

[ksteezy]

Seeing these cats tap dance around questions is embarrassing as hell, like WHY!? Why are you doing it?

 

[blastercombo]

This from the guy who helps unemploy Americans by buying and selling overseas? Also part of the group that made affirmative action necessary due to only hiring white males?


If I kick you in the **** over and over and then stop do you have to thank me for not kicking you in the ****?

 

[Based Jesus]

I hate this ************

 

[MalcolmNewton]

I hate this **********er

I'd 'respect' (for lack of a better word) him more if he just said they're raising rent, period. Don't add on some garbage that it will help people want to make more money. Their ability to b.s with a straight face is legendary.

 

[Nike Jordan]

As much as it pains me to say it... Trumps policies could create higher paying jobs.

Jobs being eliminated doesn't create new jobs.

 

[jape]

Seeing these cats tap dance around questions is embarrassing as hell, like WHY!? Why are you doing it?

thats their job security unfortunately.
television just feeds on people's hate...and that's why i cut the cord.

 

[blastercombo]

Jobs being eliminated doesn't create new jobs.

Lol right? You lose 1,000 jobs with stealmills shutting down and gain 100 with them all working at Walmart isn’t growth. Also what happened to “their taking rrrrree jaaaaabssss!!!!”? ******* idiots

 

[boris]

Jobs being eliminated doesn't create new jobs.

My company still gives people 12+ hours of work a day. Companies are basically eliminating jobs by making people work more hours. If they can pay you for 8 hours and make you work 12 hours, why wouldn't they?

 

[blastercombo]

My company still gives people 12+ hours of work a day. Companies are basically eliminating jobs by making people work more hours. If they can pay you for 8 hours and make you work 12 hours, why wouldn't they?

Because.......... build the wall??

 

[Sharpshoeter13]

I hate this **********er

 

[blastercombo]

No but seriously, Americans (trump supporters really) have once again fell of an A,_,C plan much like the joke that is trickle down economics. You take one thing, skip exactly how it should work, apply zero checks and balances, and then conclude that it will be a completely unrelated group benefiting from it.

 

[whywesteppin]

McCain doesn't want Trump at his funeral.

but the majority of Republicans will still vote trump for president.

trash people.

 

[whywesteppin]

damn @SethAbramson on Twitter has it all figured out.

lots of new info lately that confirms a lot of past speculation about Russian collusion.

[tin foil hat] this makes me think Russia knows how this is all going to unfold. they knew Trump would get caught and we'll have a national embarrassment. how exactly the Russians will directly benefit from the fall-out is what I want to know.

 

[RustyShackleford]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...am-hired-spy-firm-dirty-ops-iran-nuclear-deal

Trump is grade-A piece of ****

 

[Belgium]

Dapper Don has done it once again. Pissed off one of the US' closest allies in a moment of ignorance that could have been entirely avoided by having just a single shred of empathy and common sense.
During his NRA speech he was talking about how more guns would've prevented the November 13 2015 terror attacks in France and he also decided it would be a good idea to briefly mimic a shooting motion while saying "boom, come over here, boom, come over here, boom" to describe the attack.


Statement from the French government demands president Trump to show respect. I'll provide a loose translation below:

They start off by stating dozens of citizens were killed in a series of terrorist attacks that were planned from abroad and were coordinated and executed with "weapons of war".
Then the statement goes on to thank French special forces and police for their bravery and professionalism that helped save hundreds of lives.
"France expresses its firm/strong disapproval of the remarks made by president Trump on the subject of the November 13 2015 terror attacks and demands respect for the memories of the victims."
The statement then goes on to say that each country freely defines its own legislation when it comes to guns, like other countries do. France is proud to be a safe nation where the acquisition and possession of firearms is strictly regulated.
The statistics of victims of firearms does not lead us to question our decision in this matter.
The free circulation (flow) of firearms within the society do not constitute a fortification (rampart) against terrorist attacks, on the contrary it can facilitate the planning of this type of attack.

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/p...e-2015-reaction-aux-propos-du-president-trump
Attentats du 13 novembre 2015 – Réaction aux propos du Président TRUMP

Le 13 novembre 2015, plusieurs dizaines de nos concitoyens ont été victimes d’une série d’attentats terroristes planifiés depuis l’étranger, coordonnés et exécutés avec des armes de guerre

Grâce à l’efficacité et au professionnalisme des forces d’interventions spéciales et à la bravoure et l’héroïsme des policiers français, des centaines de vies ont pu être épargnées.

La France exprime sa ferme désapprobation des propos du président Trump au sujet des attentats du 13 novembre 2015 à Paris et demande le respect de la mémoire des victimes.

Chaque pays définit librement sa propre législation dans le domaine du port d’armes comme dans d’autres. La France est fière d’être un pays sûr où l’acquisition et la détention d’armes à feu sont strictement réglementées.

Les statistiques de victimes par arme à feu ne nous conduisent pas à remettre en cause le choix de la France en la matière.

La libre circulation d’armes au sein de la société ne constitue pas un rempart contre les attaques terroristes, elle peut au contraire faciliter la planification de ce type d’attaque.

 

[IATT]

"Reasonable..."

 

[whywesteppin]

smh

the literal translation, and pardon my French, is something like this: "Donald Trump is a giant **** and I can't wait for the day we tie him down and force feed him gallons of horse cum (thanks, Ivanka and Jared) the same way we feed our ducks for foie gras. May all the bad things in the world happen to him and only him."

 

[mr s j king]

Dapper Don has done it once again. Pissed off one of the US' closest allies in a moment of ignorance that could have been entirely avoided by having just a single shred of empathy and common sense.
During his NRA speech he was talking about how more guns would've prevented the November 13 2015 terror attacks in France and he also decided it would be a good idea to briefly mimic the motion a shooting motion while saying "boom, come over here, boom, come over here, boom" to describe the attack.


Hold up. Mainstream America believes what they see in movies?
Dude described a movie scene.
Bad guy shooting assault rifle gets killed by the good guy with a single shot from a shiny chrome revolver.

 

[130122]

Dapper Don has done it once again. Pissed off one of the US' closest allies in a moment of ignorance that could have been entirely avoided by having just a single shred of empathy and common sense.
During his NRA speech he was talking about how more guns would've prevented the November 13 2015 terror attacks in France and he also decided it would be a good idea to briefly mimic the motion a shooting motion while saying "boom, come over here, boom, come over here, boom" to describe the attack.


Statement from the French government demands president Trump to show respect. I'll provide a loose translation below:

They start off by stating dozens of citizens were killed in a series of terrorist attacks that were planned from abroad and were coordinated and executed with "weapons of war".
Then the statement goes on to thank French special forces and police for their bravery and professionalism that helped save hundreds of lives.
"France expresses its firm/strong disapproval of the remarks made by president Trump on the subject of the November 13 2015 terror attacks and demands respect for the memories of the victims."
The statement then goes on to say that each country freely defines its own legislation when it comes to guns, like other countries do. France is proud to be a safe nation where the acquisition and possession of firearms is strictly regulated.
The statistics of victims of firearms does not lead us to question our decision in this matter.
The free circulation (flow) of firearms within the society do not constitute a fortification (rampart) against terrorist attacks, on the contrary it can facilitate the planning of this type of attack.

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/p...e-2015-reaction-aux-propos-du-president-trump
Attentats du 13 novembre 2015 – Réaction aux propos du Président TRUMP

son also forgot how US soldiers disarmed terrorists on a french train without guns, they just made a movie bout it but im schleep

 

[Belgium]

https://apnews.com/6dd33b4234634079...eller-team-questions-Trump-friend-Tom-Barrack
APNewsBreak: Mueller team questions Trump friend Tom Barrack

Investigators working for special counsel Robert Mueller have interviewed one of President Donald Trump’s closest friends and confidants, California real estate investor Tom Barrack, The Associated Press has learned.

Barrack was interviewed as part of the federal investigation of possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia in the 2016 election, according to three people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

The specific topics covered in questions from Mueller’s team were not immediately clear.

One of the people who spoke to AP said the questioning focused entirely on two officials from Trump’s campaign who have been indicted by Mueller: Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and Manafort’s longtime deputy, Rick Gates. Gates agreed to plead guilty to federal conspiracy and false-statement charges in February and began cooperating with investigators.

This person said Barrack was interviewed “months ago” and was asked a few questions about Gates’ work on Trump’s inaugural committee, which Barrack chaired, and but there were no questions about the money raised by that committee.

A second person with knowledge of the Barrack interview said the questioning was broader and did include financial matters about the campaign, the transition and Trump’s inauguration in January 2017.

Barrack’s spokeswoman, Lisa Baker, declined comment.

Barrack has rare access and insight into Trump going back decades, since their days developing real estate. Barrack played an integral role in the 2016 campaign as a top fundraiser at a time when many other Republicans were shunning the upstart candidate. Barrack later directed Trump’s inauguration.

While the specifics of Barrack’s questioning were unclear, Mueller’s team has asked several other witnesses about the flow of money related to the campaign.

Investigators have for months been inquiring about the Trump campaign’s finances and compliance with federal election law, according to four people familiar with the matter.

Prosecutors’ questions have been wide-ranging, these people said, touching on the campaign’s data operations, its relationship with data-mining company Cambridge Analytica, payments to Gates and whether there were arrangements that weren’t disclosed in filings to the Federal Election Commission, they said.

The four people familiar with the investigation spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the confidential interviews.

The investigators’ questions about the campaign’s finances have come up in interviews dating to early fall while prosecutors were preparing the first indictment against Manafort and Gates.

Barrack, a wealthy real estate investor with close ties to several Mideast leaders, met Trump in 1988 when he negotiated the sale of The Plaza Hotel in New York to Trump. Barrack’s publicist in 2016 described the men as having since “solidified a lifelong friendship between themselves and their families.”

Barrack employed Gates last year, wrapping up operations on the Presidential Inaugural Committee, before Gates was charged by Mueller.

Barrack spoke glowingly of Trump in a CNBC interview in early 2016.

“He’s one of the kindest, and actually most humble, friends that I’ve had,” Barrack said. “I have so much respect for him because at this point in his career, wandering into the milieu was not easy, and he’s changed the dialogue of the debate.”

Barrack also was among the featured speakers at the Republican convention where Trump formally received the nomination.

Days after Trump’s victory in November 2016, Barrack told CBS’ “This Morning” that Trump was like an ultimate fighter during the campaign who used “whatever tools necessary to convey a really disruptive message.” Barrack said America would see “a softer, kinder” Trump now that Trump had won the presidency

Mueller’s investigators have interviewed dozens of witnesses in the probe into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election. They have also secured the cooperation of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos.

But few witnesses have as much insight into the president’s lengthy business career and all facets of his campaign and administration as Barrack.

 

[whywesteppin]

Tom Obummer