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If Trump fails, this will only help/strengthen Cruz within the GOP.

You're delusional. Republicans HATE Ted Cruz. He will never be President. The only people that are rallying behind him are the anti Trump brigade on the left.

Lyin Ted is just living up to his name.

He's making moves for a 2020 run. He's banking on Trump losing to gain momentum.

And please show me where I said he was going to be President. Thanks.
 
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ted cruz got set up to crash & burn...

Trump knew Cruz wasn't going to endorse him, yet still allowed him to make a speech during prime time which ultimately took all the spotlight out of Pence. Cruz has all the networks talking about him today, and Pence is just an after thought. If anything it just proves Trump is not very smart. How do you make that big of a mistake?

Republicans HATE Ted Cruz.

Keep telling yourself that. How many Republican votes did Cruz get during the Primary?

7,637,262 compared to Trump's 13,300,472
 
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Evangelical Christians love Cruz. Most people I know at my church are diehard Cruz fans, which probably explains why Trump lost Colorado.
 
He's making moves for a 2020 run. He's banking on Trump losing to gain momentum.

And please show me where I said he was going to be President. Thanks.

I took your post and commented on it's obvious end. Unless you meant something other than President.


Trump knew Cruz wasn't going to endorse him, yet still allowed him to make a speech during prime time which ultimately took all the spotlight out of Pence. Cruz has all the networks talking about him today, and Pence is just an after thought. If anything it just proves Trump is not very smart. How do you make that big of a mistake?
Keep telling yourself that. How many Republican votes did Cruz get during the Primary?

7,637,262 compared to Trump's 13,300,472

I'd say more than half of Ted's votes were votes against Trump. Nobody likes Ted.

Evangelical Christians love Cruz. Most people I know at my church are diehard Cruz fans, which probably explains why Trump lost Colorado.


That's Cruz's only real constituency, literally.
 
Strengthening his standing within the GOP doesn't mean he'll be president, bro. Paul Ryan is doing the same thing behind the scenes.

All these guys have their eye on 2020. In Cruz's case, it's more of a gamble because he pretty much pushed all his chips to the middle of the table for EVERYONE to see. As I've been reading, he's essentially betting his political career on Trump failing.
 
I'd say more than half of Ted's votes were votes against Trump. Nobody likes Ted.

Probably but still doesn't discount that Cruz got 7.6 million votes which would benefit Trump right?

Cruz is probably going to announce his 2020 campaign today! :lol

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I take most of this Trump stuff in good humour but those NATO comments are ******* scary.

If Vladmir Putin was sponsoring a puppet candidate so that he could be the shadow president of America how different would it look from Trump's campaign?




Dude maybe as high as 25% shot at being president, **** is creepy.



Scary hours right now.
 
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the entire convention they clapping and cheering for integrity, values, honor, telling the truth, etc ..... then turn around and want a man who called Trump a piece of **** just 2 months ago to endorse him... 

basically making him the exact opposite of what you were just cheering for 

Lol... **** is so silly man... I can't believe this is real 

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Thank you for verbalizing this for me. How I was feeling the entire time. ***** an absolute joke.
 
I take most of this Trump stuff in good humour but those NATO comments are ******* scary.

If Vladmir Putin was sponsoring a puppet candidate so that he could be the shadow president of America how different would it look from Trump's campaign?




Dude maybe as high as 25% shot at being president, **** is creepy.



Scary hours right now.
Are you referencing his comments about defending allies not being guaranteed?

Read that this morning and just turned the TV off. I don't know if he's trying to make enemies out of everyone, but it's working either way.
 
Strengthening his standing within the GOP doesn't mean he'll be president, bro. Paul Ryan is doing the same thing behind the scenes.

All these guys have their eye on 2020. In Cruz's case, it's more of a gamble because he pretty much pushed all his chips to the middle of the table for EVERYONE to see. As I've been reading, he's essentially betting his political career on Trump failing.

So you telling me that if Hillary wins, that it will strengthen Cruz's prospects in 2020. The Republicans will never forgive Ted if that happens. He'll be blamed.
 
Strengthening his standing within the GOP doesn't mean he'll be president, bro. Paul Ryan is doing the same thing behind the scenes.

All these guys have their eye on 2020. In Cruz's case, it's more of a gamble because he pretty much pushed all his chips to the middle of the table for EVERYONE to see. As I've been reading, he's essentially betting his political career on Trump failing.

So you telling me that if Hillary wins, that it will strengthen Cruz's prospects in 2020. The Republicans will never forgive Ted if that happens. He'll be blamed.

Absolutely. This is why it's a gamble.

The plan was carefully scripted: snub Donald Trump by not endorsing him at the Republican convention on Wednesday night. Unleash a stirring cry for conservative values that would evoke memories of Ronald Reagan’s 1976 clarion call at Gerald Ford’s coronation. That show-stealing speech set Reagan on a glide path to the 1980 nomination, which is what Cruz is hoping for in 2020.

The speech was a gamble that could upend the 2016 runner-up’s planning for 2020 and shape the contours of a coming party fight should Trump lose. Some RNC officials believe Cruz is actively laying the groundwork for a presidential run in four years regardless of what happens in November. That could set up a remarkable challenge to a sitting President from his own party.

For Cruz, the prime-time address was an all-in wager. Decline to endorse at Trump’s coronation, and Cruz might alienate millions of Republicans at a moment when he is trying to recast himself as a team player. Embrace Trump, and risk tainting a personal brand built on conservative purity. Not to mention help a man who insulted his wife and father.

Most Republicans eyeing future runs for national office have embraced Trump. That’s a product of calculation, not affection: many worry a failure to fall in line could backfire if the outspoken billionaire blames his defeat on their disloyalty. But Cruz has made the case for a year that the GOP loses when it nominates insufficiently conservative candidates. And he’s betting a Trump loss would prove his point.

Before the speech, Cruz’s most-passionate supporters were split on the best course of action. The move wasn’t made lightly; much of the address was crafted by Cruz himself. In the end, it was a bet that kneecapping Trump would help push the party toward a conservative revolution, with the Texan at the head of the column.

But if Trump’s team expected a graceful concession, the patina of deference was short-lived. In a convention conspicuously light on Trump accolades, the nonendorsement was the sharpest blow yet. It sent an unmistakable message that four months before the 2016 election, the battle for 2020 has already begun.

Ted Cruz Makes a Big Gamble With Convention Speech
 
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Are you referencing his comments about defending allies not being guaranteed?

Read that this morning and just turned the TV off. I don't know if he's trying to make enemies out of everyone, but it's working either way.

Yup, it's like giving Russian an open invitation to annex all those former soviet union states.


Thats how you start world war 3.
 
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Yup, it's like giving Russian an open invitation to annex all those former soviet union states.


Thats how you start world war 3.

The worst part is who do you believe?

Trump or Pence considering the VP nominee said last night...

"Donald Trump will rebuild our military and stand with our allies," "We cannot have four more years of apologizing to our enemies and abandoning our friends,"

These clowns don't even know each other's positions for crying out loud and that's why this entire Trump campaign is a fraud.
 
the more i think of it, Cruz is probably trying to transition Republicans to a new party to appeal to a broader base. emphasize the constitution and Christian values of inclusiveness and such. could be trying to pull in some of the black/minority vote. also try to speak to lgbt by emphasizing freedom of choice, etc.

i don't know why he would endorse Trump's wall in the speech though. either he believes in it, or he was lowkey mocking it, or he included it in his draft to fool Trump into thinking he was on Trump's side. what were his views on the wall during the primaries?

or maybe I'm reading too much into all this.
 
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or maybe I'm reading too much into all this.

I'm going to go with this. Cruz is really far right, and I have a hard time believing he changed his stance in a couple of months. It was definitely sour grapes last night on his part, but it was glorious. I could definitely be wrong, because Lord knows the GOP needs to change their rhetoric.
 
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Yup, it's like giving Russian an open invitation to annex all those former soviet union states.


Thats how you start world war 3.

What exactly do you think obama would do? He has been essentially making us dependent on russia because of the syria effort. He wouldn't do **** if putin started taking more.

Bush didn't do much during the russian Georgian conflict. Obama didn't do much aboit crimea.

Trump is just straight up not qualified.
 
Yup, it's like giving Russian an open invitation to annex all those former soviet union states.


Thats how you start world war 3.

What exactly do you think obama would do? He has been essentially making us dependent on russia because of the syria effort. He wouldn't do **** if putin started taking more.

Bush didn't do much during the russian Georgian conflict. Obama didn't do much aboit crimea.

Trump is just straight up not qualified.

Relax and take some time and read what dude said.

Their is a difference between fighting over smaller regions and annexing entire countries

Why are you always so adamant that the president go fight wars over the littlest things.

America's foreign policy will always be **** because of this free rider problem. People demanding action, because they know they don't have to pay the cost. Let's just borrow money we don't have, and send the next man's child to die overseas, because the world must be in constant fear of us.
 
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I didn't say he should go fight russia you're just projecting. I'm just saying neither party would do anything at the moment. It's likely not worth it and the country is war weary.

Do you think the world is a better/safer place with america as the only true super power? Woukd you be comfortable with a USSR type pf power coming back into play?
 
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