***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[whywesteppin]

So earlier tonite Trump said that President Obama is the founder of ISIS.

Whose mans is this???

How anyone can take this guy seriously boggles my mind.

I mean, Obama's pport foreign policy and inaction directly led to the creation of the JV squad.

So it really isn't a stretch.

just quoting this in case you edit, for posterity's sake.

 

[superblytrife]

So earlier tonite Trump said that President Obama is the founder of ISIS.

Whose mans is this???

How anyone can take this guy seriously boggles my mind.

I mean, Obama's pport foreign policy and inaction directly led to the creation of the JV squad.

So it really isn't a stretch.

Like I said, how anyone can take this guy seriously boggles my mind.

Not surprising to see that come from you, btw. Clowns will be clowns.

 

[sfc415]

Ninjahood sounds exactly like a 6th year community college student that I'm forced to interact with sometimes due to family ties (through a marriage no one approved of, not genetics). Dude brags about having years of education and studying day and night, but he literally misunderstands everything taught in class (the reason why he's going on year 6 at a 2 year college ). Ninjahood cites statistics and articles in the same way that person does

 

[gry60]

So earlier tonite Trump said that President Obama is the founder of ISIS.

Whose mans is this???

How anyone can take this guy seriously boggles my mind.

I mean, Obama's pport foreign policy and inaction directly led to the creation of the JV squad.

So it really isn't a stretch.

It is.

The Short Answer:

1. No, Obama shouldn't shoulder the full burden for the timing of the withdrawal of troops;

2. Yes, a significant American troop presence would have helped slow the growth of ISIS

But with the significant caveat that there were many other factors that enabled ISIS to become strong — and they weren't all predictable in 2011.

Trump's words:

“ISIS is honoring President Obama,” Trump said. “He is the founder of ISIS. He is the founder of ISIS, OK? He’s the founder. He founded ISIS. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton.”

His comments Wednesday were not the first time he connected Obama to ISIS. In June, he tweeted an article from Breitbart that said, “The Obama administration was actively supporting Al Qaeda in Iraq, the terrorist group that became the Islamic State."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-obama-clinton-founded-isis-226893?

For someone who says what's on his mind, Trump's statements sure need a lot of interpretation.

 

[Nawzlew]

Passing probability and stats should be a requirement to graduate high school.

94% of pregnant women going to have an abortion does not equal 94% or a majority of PP's work being abortions...

Pshhhh statistics is a liberal invention used to brainwash voters and rig elections.

 

[rolaholic]

 

[Nawzlew]

While on topic of PP, this always kills me.

 

[dragicon]

First off, ninjahood , why the **** do you care what services PP provides? What business is it of yours? How does that organization existing infringe on any one of your ******* rights?

Second, you're playing the semantics game with this issue, trying so hard to prove a moot point that serves no purpose to your own agenda or goals. Who cares how much of PP's business is abortion services? Cut these pointless arguments out and stop trying to create arguments to distract from the original point.

The other thing that annoys me about it is a bunch of men telling women what health care services they should and should not have access too.

 

[Armada]

 

 

 

94% of pregnant women going to have an abortion does not equal 94% or a majority of PP's work being abortions...

How Does Planned Parenthood Calculate Its Claims About Its Abortion Services?

Although Planned Parenthood Federation of America reportedly requires all affiliates to have at least one clinic that performs abortions,[4] Planned Parenthood’s annual report does not identify the number of affiliated clinics that provide abortion services or how much of Planned Parenthood’s total revenue results from abortions. Instead, the report claims that abortions account for only 3 percent of the medical services Planned Parenthood affiliates provide.[5]


How does the Planned Parenthood annual report arrive at the 3 percent figure? The calculation counts each “discrete clinical interaction” as a separate “medical service,” meaning simple tests or routine provision of birth control are given the same weight as surgical or chemical abortions.[6] For example, if a woman in the course of a year receives a free condom, a pregnancy test, a sexually transmitted infection (STI) test, and an abortion, Planned Parenthood would say abortion was only 25 percent of the services provided

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...tion-services-and-receipt-of-taxpayer-funding

 
94% of pregnant women going to have an abortion does not equal 94% or a majority of PP's work being abortions...
 

The information in that article doesn't prove that a majority of their services are abortions and majority profits come from abortion...all it is saying is that abortion is a service they provide.
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does undermine that whole 3% calculation.

From the link you provided

Even with Planned Parenthood’s broad definition of “medical service,” data reported in the organization’s annual report suggest that roughly 12 percent of people who received a service from Planned Parenthood affiliates received an abortion during the reporting year.

so all that means is the number of abortions they do is more thank likely between 3%-12%...So you know what that really undermines....

 

Planned Parenthood do other things besides abortions, but you stay throwing out the "killing babies" red herring.

abortions is their main business...red herring my ***

Your point that abortions are their main business.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

trump rails on Hilary for Omar Mateen sitting behind her & then he has the that pervert disgraced ex-congressman mark foley sitting behind him... You'd think foley would be decent enough to sit somewhere out of view of the camera but his ego & narcissism typical in politicians particularly republicans drives him to find prime seating.

 

[teamjordan79]

I think this sums up the election perfectly:

Trump lies are mostly garbled, stream-of-consciousness word salad. HRC lies are lawyerly, meticulous, calculated, and brazen.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

murdock owned media outlets are always in trouble... hacking phones, bribing police officers, sexual harassment, spying on employees...

My favorite all time moment was this... I was watching fox election night coverage for lulz & couldn't believe when this moment occured. My mouth was literally agape when the words came out of shorty's mouth...

 

[rillo561]

trump rails on Hilary for Omar Mateen sitting behind her & then he has the that pervert disgraced ex-congressman mark foley sitting behind him... You'd think foley would be decent enough to sit somewhere out of view of the camera but his ego & narcissism typical in politicians particularly republicans drives him to find prime seating.

Mark lives in my area, I see him constantly in the mornings on my way to work. All I can say he definitely likes them young. Very creepy.

 

[essential1]

Decided to do a weighted look at 538's Poll-Plus forecast.

Gave Trump a state if he had 75% chance of winning based on poll-plus forecast, gave Hillary a state if she had 85% chance based on poll-plus forecast.

Click the map to create your own at 270toWin.com



Of that, it's fairly safe to assume ME, NH & VA will go Dem... GA & AZ will go Rep. Just based on trends.

Click the map to create your own at 270toWin.com




Trump needs to pull off 79 of 113 in the Electoral College with NC being the reddest state left.

That's not a good position at all, even for 88 days out

 

[everysingletime]

I want to say Trump still has a chance. I don't want him being underestimated and then ppl getting lazy about voting.

If you don't like his *** vote for Hilary!

 

[essential1]

I want to say Trump still has a chance. I don't want him being underestimated and then ppl getting lazy about voting.

If you don't like his *** vote for Hilary!

As much as Trump has garnered the favor of middle aged white males, he's also energized other demos that will not sit it out.

Had the candidate been Rubio or Cruz. I think that a laziness factor is possible. With Trump he has swung that pendulum both ways to prevent laziness.

 

[ninjahood]

First off, ninjahood , why the **** do you care what services PP provides? What business is it of yours? How does that organization existing infringe on any one of your ******* rights?

Second, you're playing the semantics game with this issue, trying so hard to prove a moot point that serves no purpose to your own agenda or goals. Who cares how much of PP's business is abortion services? Cut these pointless arguments out and stop trying to create arguments to distract from the original point.

point is da NRA & planned Parenthood serve and cater to specific demographics within their respective political spectrums.(many of their electorate & members & bipartisan.)

I think this sums up the election perfectly:

Trump lies are mostly garbled, stream-of-consciousness word salad. HRC lies are lawyerly, meticulous, calculated, and brazen.

u if accept that premise Clinton comes off as more sinister given Trump is a political neophyte.

 

[rillo561]

The NRA are for the gun companies nothing more.

 

[frshstunna]

First off, ninjahood , why the **** do you care what services PP provides? What business is it of yours? How does that organization existing infringe on any one of your ******* rights?

Second, you're playing the semantics game with this issue, trying so hard to prove a moot point that serves no purpose to your own agenda or goals. Who cares how much of PP's business is abortion services? Cut these pointless arguments out and stop trying to create arguments to distract from the original point.

The other thing that annoys me about it is a bunch of men telling women what health care services they should and should not have access too.

That's the conservative way

 

[rico x hood]

As much as Trump has garnered the favor of middle aged white males, he's also energized other demos that will not sit it out.


Had the candidate been Rubio or Cruz. I think that a laziness factor is possible. With Trump he has swung that pendulum both ways to prevent laziness.

Patently false.

 

[Mr.Guy]

point is da NRA & planned Parenthood serve and cater to specific demographics within their respective political spectrums.(many of their electorate & members & bipartisan.)
u if accept that premise Clinton comes off as more sinister given Trump is a political neophyte.

So only liberal women go to PP? Conservative women don't use PP services?

 

[Nike Jordan]

Where do you draw the line on Trump?

 

[gry60]

As much as Trump has garnered the favor of middle aged white males, he's also energized other demos that will not sit it out.


Had the candidate been Rubio or Cruz. I think that a laziness factor is possible. With Trump he has swung that pendulum both ways to prevent laziness.

Patently false.

What makes you say that?

 

[ninjahood]

The NRA are for the gun companies nothing more.

thats your opinion, da reality is it represents a large swath of Americans who are fervent Gun rights advocates, supporters, and defenders.

 

[rillo561]

thats your opinion, da reality is it represents a large swath of Americans who are fervent Gun rights advocates, supporters, and defenders.

Then why does the NRA block gun violence research?

Also, most of their money comes from the gun industry

http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1