***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[IATT]

American needs to stop thinking that running a country is like running a business.

especially when folks resort to this dude

I mean how many businesses has this dude failed in at this point

in America, he has failed at football, liquor AND casinos

 

[frank 7he t4nk]

IMO it's disingenuous

We've experienced 4 long years of Trump, and I have a hard time (this is putting it lightly) believing Biden could do worse, even if he tried.

Also, to use an analogy, I believe Biden would try to be like Steve Kerr. When first became coach, he talked about surrounding himself with smart, strong, solid personnel to help him. If worst comes to worst, like when Kerr was out with the back injury, Biden's cabinet/staff will guide the country SIGNIFICANTLY better compared to a Trump and his cabinet.

For the life of me I’ll never understand people getting hung up on Biden’s mental state then act like trump got it all together in his head

 

[RustyShackleford]

I love how people peddle the both sides talk always land on the GOP being slightly better

And that they never can form a cogent argument as to why both sides are equivalent.

And how they act like their supposed independence makes their argument more valid.

Newsflash, it doesn't

 

[RustyShackleford]

HEATHEN who would be your preferred person to be President, putting aside Trump and Biden, who is the person you thought would be the best person for the job.

 

[Based Jesus]

Trump has bankrupted multiple casinos and had his charity shut down because he got caught stealing the money from people with cancer. Please, tell me more about this great businessman.

 

[IATT]

The man is literally banned from running a charity ever again.. yet can still be president

Judge orders Trump to pay $2m for misusing Trump Foundation funds

The Trump Foundation used cash raised for veterans to fund his campaign, a New York judge rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[gry60]

For the life of me I’ll never understand people getting hung up on Biden’s mental state then act like trump got it all together in his head

Tis the season of the Fox News/CNN watcher who thinks that because they watch the same 15-second soundbites 24/7, they can form a decent opinion on the political state of the country.

This is gonna be most of the regulars from now until late November:

 

[reformeDWS]

I don’t *do* politics but I’ve been trying to force myself to pay attention as of late. Can someone explain to me

from doesn't do politics, needing to force himself to pay attention, and needing an explanations to already having multiple arguments ready on why biden is a bad candidate.

3/10 troll attempt.

 

[frank 7he t4nk]

That feel when I see Delk or anyone else post an intellectually dishonest argument

 

[Based Jesus]

from doesn't do politics, needing to force himself to pay attention, and needing an explanations to already having multiple arguments ready on why biden is a bad candidate.

3/10 troll attempt.

"Hey guys I'm not politically involved at all and aren't 100% sure who to vote for, let me argue with those of you who are politically involved when you advise me on who I should vote for."

 

[RustyShackleford]

Trump has bankrupted multiple casinos and had his charity shut down because he got caught stealing the money from people with cancer. Please, tell me more about this great businessman.

Member how Trump promised to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it

Member how he said he would get rid of NAFTA and sign a completely new deal that game America everything, put then agreed to NAFTA 2.0

Member how he said he would force China to sign a great trade deal

Member how he let Saudi Arabia kill a US journalist without any response

Member how he took the side of Putin over our own intelligence agencies

Member how he lett the Kurds to potentially get slaughtered

Member how he does damn near everything Putin wants as far a military movements

Member how he said Kim Jong-Un and him were in love and he would make them get rid of their nukes

Member how he alienated damn near all of our western allies to the point they mock him in public

But yes, yes, no way Biden can do better than this.

 

[Upptempo]

 

[mplsdunk]

remember how he was gonna open the god damn coal mines???

 

[Based Jesus]

Member how Trump promised to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it

Member how he said he would get rid of NAFTA and sign a completely new deal that game America everything, put then agreed to NAFTA 2.0

Member how he said he would force China to sign a great trade deal

Member how he let Saudi Arabia kill a US journalist without any response

Member how he took the side of Putin over our own intelligence agencies

Member how he let the Kurds to get slaughtered

Member how he does damn near everything Putin wants as far a military movements

Member how he said Kim Joon-Un and him were in love and he would make them get rid of their nukes

Member how he alienated damn near all of our western allies to the point they mock him in public

But yes, yes, no way Biden can do better than this.

 

[LEG1T]

When I vote for president, I think to myself.

Do I feel better or worse than I did before this person came in office?

Resoundingly the universe is also seeming to chime in on how Bad trump has been for the country. I have no party affiliation but a moral code.

And for me BIDEN gets my vote any day of the week just on principle. He is not the end all be all but he is certainly better I think than the tone deaf president we have currently.

Our world is crumbling, and is filled with more hate than I ever felt since I lived. If it means me having to loose money on business for our people to feel better and have someone stand for them when no one else will, then im all for it.

Principles > Profits All Day.

 

[Upptempo]

It's crazy that in this job market, every employer asking me for 5-10 years experience to get hired but Trump got to learn on the job for the highest title in America and 4 years later still in a position to keep his job another 4 years.

 

[HEATHEN]

All you are proving right now is that you don't understand how US foreign Policy works.

Working out things like trade deals, denuclearization deals, and military strategy is not like haggling over a ****ing used car.

You argument is filmy famb.

Okay cool. Illuminate me then. He’s going to have ongoing discussions with foreign leaders. His cognitive ability is going to have implications. Just like Trump’s (lack of) cognitive ability has had its implications.

you disagree that Biden could be worse? Spare me telling me what I already know. I prefaced this whole conversation by coming out and stating off the rip that I don’t do politics. You telling me I don’t understand foreign policy is a big duh. That’s why I’m asking questions because nothing I’ve seen so far has convinced me that Biden is capable in any of these aspects including foreign policy.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Okay cool. Illuminate me then. He’s going to have ongoing discussions with foreign leaders. His cognitive ability is going to have implications. Just like Trump’s (lack of) cognitive ability has had its implications.

you disagree that Biden could be worse? Spare me telling me what I already know. I prefaced this whole conversation by coming out and stating off the rip that I don’t do politics.

And it shows famb.

Biden has had tons of meetings and discussions with politicians, policial constants, Republicans, former world leader, current world leaders, over the past couple years in different capacities. None of them as complained about his mental capabilities.Secondly while I will admit Biden is not as sharp as he used to be, cause dude was really sharp, the argument that he is going senile or not mentally there is bull****. Your ageism is not a valid political argument.

US foreign policy is managed by multiple people not just the President. Biden will most likely hire a competent Secretary of State, and he will staff the State department with capable people. Foreign policy is not a one man job, no world leader is gonna think "Biden doesn't sound sharp on the phone, maybe we should pull something", it doesn't work like that. Dozens to hundreds of people are involved in managing US foreign policy, any move one country makes they will not only have to consider the US blow back, but the blow back from US allies. It is not like a game of chest, it is not a dong measuring contest. Biden doesn't need to have a crisp mouthpiece to manage US foreign policy. Also Biden's has tons of foreign policy experience from his time in the Senate.

Stuff like the Iran deal wasn't just us demanding Iran not do something. But a complex political agreement between the US, Iran and many other countries. Hundreds of people help craft the argument.

The criteria you are basing your conclusions about Biden is extremely flawed. From someone that is really into politics, Biden seems up for the job.

 

[dwalk31]

Dismissing undecided voters as intellectually dishonest, that'll do it

 

[RustyShackleford]

Dismissing undecided voters as intellectually dishonest, that'll do it

I already told him he can vote for your guy

No one has to coddle bad arguments. We are not employees of the Democratic Party.

 

[gry60]

I’ve seen zero evidence of this intelligence. I don’t need a candidate to preside via proxy. ****ing hell, you think that everyone he would surround himself with has benevolent ideals?

That's it folks, we're ****ed.

My dude, you had 4 years to watch the dumpster fire that is the White House. Preside by proxy?

For some reason, this dude is at the center of everything from Middle Eastern peace talks to the pandemic response plans. Who's the president again?

Benevolent ideals? May I acquaint you with Stephen Miller's wife?

LOL LOL LOL

 

[plansb]

“Trump moves with intention”.

 

[gry60]

because nothing I’ve seen so far has convinced me that Biden is capable in any of these aspects including foreign policy.

It's almost like the dude wasn't the former vice-president of the US for 8 years.

Nope. Nothing shows that he can handle the job.

 

[junglejim]

I ain’t voting for either guy. I just want to know why I should vote for Biden.

Yes Trump does get punked regularly, which was my point. You think Biden would fare better?

-Double digit unemployment
-Lowest wage growth in decades
-Trump is going to gut social security
-Record deficits
-We literally cannot travel anywhere outside of the US
-Trump is a wild racist
-Trump is sociopath with a cognitive impairment
-Xenophobia
-He doesn’t have any second term policy proposals. Seriously check his campaign website. Not one
-He is a conman grifter
-The next Supreme Court pick
-One wants to gut health insurance in the middle of a pandemic
-All jobs created over the past decade have been lost
-He Was accused of assaulting 26 women
-He was a defendant in a case where he was accused of raping a 13 year old child
-He will literally let your grand parents die for the economy
-He is going to let some children die for the economy
-He has no plan for this pandemic
-He has no plan for anything for that matter

We saw 8 years of an Obama/Biden administration and you still think it will be as bad as it is now?

 

[Upptempo]

They should do political debates like the Masked Singer and each candidate comes out in a mascot costume and voice changer and answers the questions. Then the public decides who's answers they agree with most and that's who they vote for.