I was busy with work and I missed this. you guys i think are way more out of touch with normie opinion on this than you think.
Sigh. This is wrong. But you keep repeating it, so you think it's right.
People like the ideas.
You've even suggested it was unpopular with Black folks before -- maybe in the home of Bagged Milk, but not here.
its correct. yes people like many ideas. I like many ideas.
but when you poll the
direct question "do you want to cut police budgets "it's unpopular with everyone including black people. pew/gallup I posted the polling you can look back at my post history if you want to find it.
if you want to support an unpopular policy sure fine go ahead but don't pretend that it isn't.
Americans like the ideas behind defund the police more than the slogan itself
i literally said the slogan was bad, if the slogan causes people to discount you're ideas, I would say bad slogan.
^ this was post george floyd.
Poverty and violent crime is highly correlated. Wealth inequality is worsening in cities. You can address this by attacking inequality immediately.
yes obviously, but "education" is not going to solve an open murder case. and yes poverty and education are giant drivers of crime,
making big investments to k-12 education is not going to make current adult active criminals disappear tomorrow, for that you need police.
You're literally the only one who is suggesting this. You know what's going to likely lead to more crime? A poorly handled pandemic heading into the winter and people in worsening conditions of poverty. The answer here isn't more and "better trained" police. The answer is uncomfortable, because it's not how people have addressed these issues in Black and Brown communities in the history of this country. But that doesn't make it bad policy or untenable just because you don't like it.
its the obvious inference to make
substantial cuts to police budgets will lead to more crime and less solved crimes. so living in a high crime neighborhood would be worse.
This is my final point on this, and the reason that cutting police is bad policy. you don't spend less money on something and get a better product;
The biggest driver of police budgets is officer pay.
hate it or love it the social science research shows
-that police patrols do reduce crime.
-the more money and time police devote strongly correlates to the solving of said crime.
so substantially cutting police pay means cutting hours, less hours, less patrols, less time spent solving crimes.
= people who live in a high crime neighborhood will be exposed to more crime. I think that would be unfair to them.
People who live in a high crime areas deserve better, more just and accountable policing not worse policing.[/QUOTE]
