Official Sacramento Kings Off-season Thread

[tyrekeevans]

kings looking good so far

 

[tyrekeevans]

kings looking good so far

 

[hymen man]

My first time watching the Kings all year and I gotta ask...

Is this real life? re: Demarcus Cousins

dude is a BABY. it's ridic.

 

[hymen man]

My first time watching the Kings all year and I gotta ask...

Is this real life? re: Demarcus Cousins

dude is a BABY. it's ridic.

 

[rawsheed]

^ same here. Now I understand all the talk about this dude.

It's very entertaining though

 

[rawsheed]

^ same here. Now I understand all the talk about this dude.

It's very entertaining though

 

[buc em]

My man Cousins 

dude has personality on the court, you know when he's out there. not much dudes have that nowadays. SMH @ philly for taking Turner over him when they already had Iggy, Thad, Lou, Meeks, Nocioni and Kapono at the wing and forward spots.

I really like this Kings team....how the hell is their record so bad I don't get it?

 

[buc em]

My man Cousins 

dude has personality on the court, you know when he's out there. not much dudes have that nowadays. SMH @ philly for taking Turner over him when they already had Iggy, Thad, Lou, Meeks, Nocioni and Kapono at the wing and forward spots.

I really like this Kings team....how the hell is their record so bad I don't get it?

 

[beats05]

Originally Posted by Buc Em

My man Cousins 

dude has personality on the court, you know when he's out there. not much dudes have that nowadays. SMH @ philly for taking Turner over him when they already had Iggy, Thad, Lou, Meeks, Nocioni and Kapono at the wing and forward spots.

I really like this Kings team....how the hell is their record so bad I don't get it?

I've caught every game. Their record is bad for a few reasons. The main reason is Tyreke has been battling a foot injury all year and just hasn't been himself. He's shooting 30-something percent on the year because he's been shooting jumpers instead of driving. Another reason is Cousins has JUST learned how to stay out of foul trouble. When he's on the court and they're feeding him in the post, we are a very good team. But for most of the year, he was on the bench for long stretches at a time because his fouls were always the quarter+1. Another reason is we were playing Donte Greene instead of Garcia and Casspi for most of the year, and Donte Greene would just chuck threes all day at 20%. We've had more than 10 different starting lineups and we're just starting to figure things out.
We still need more shooters though. When Garcia and Casspi are out there, they spread the floor for Evans and Cousins to do damage. 

 

[beats05]

Originally Posted by Buc Em

My man Cousins 

dude has personality on the court, you know when he's out there. not much dudes have that nowadays. SMH @ philly for taking Turner over him when they already had Iggy, Thad, Lou, Meeks, Nocioni and Kapono at the wing and forward spots.

I really like this Kings team....how the hell is their record so bad I don't get it?

I've caught every game. Their record is bad for a few reasons. The main reason is Tyreke has been battling a foot injury all year and just hasn't been himself. He's shooting 30-something percent on the year because he's been shooting jumpers instead of driving. Another reason is Cousins has JUST learned how to stay out of foul trouble. When he's on the court and they're feeding him in the post, we are a very good team. But for most of the year, he was on the bench for long stretches at a time because his fouls were always the quarter+1. Another reason is we were playing Donte Greene instead of Garcia and Casspi for most of the year, and Donte Greene would just chuck threes all day at 20%. We've had more than 10 different starting lineups and we're just starting to figure things out.
We still need more shooters though. When Garcia and Casspi are out there, they spread the floor for Evans and Cousins to do damage. 

 

[jmause3]

We could use Casspi on our team.

We'll give yall Keith Bogans for Casspi straight up

 

[jmause3]

We could use Casspi on our team.

We'll give yall Keith Bogans for Casspi straight up

 

[bdis1986]

kings played a hell of a game

 

[bdis1986]

kings played a hell of a game

 

[savraj1]

congrats on the win

 

[savraj1]

congrats on the win

 

[buc em]

Originally Posted by Beats05

Originally Posted by Buc Em

My man Cousins 

dude has personality on the court, you know when he's out there. not much dudes have that nowadays. SMH @ philly for taking Turner over him when they already had Iggy, Thad, Lou, Meeks, Nocioni and Kapono at the wing and forward spots.

I really like this Kings team....how the hell is their record so bad I don't get it?

I've caught every game. Their record is bad for a few reasons. The main reason is Tyreke has been battling a foot injury all year and just hasn't been himself. He's shooting 30-something percent on the year because he's been shooting jumpers instead of driving. Another reason is Cousins has JUST learned how to stay out of foul trouble. When he's on the court and they're feeding him in the post, we are a very good team. But for most of the year, he was on the bench for long stretches at a time because his fouls were always the quarter+1. Another reason is we were playing Donte Greene instead of Garcia and Casspi for most of the year, and Donte Greene would just chuck threes all day at 20%. We've had more than 10 different starting lineups and we're just starting to figure things out.
We still need more shooters though. When Garcia and Casspi are out there, they spread the floor for Evans and Cousins to do damage. 

Well Reke, Garcia, Casspi, Landry and Cousins sounds like a hell of a squad to me and looked like one tonight. They all complement eachother so nicely. They need to stick together and not trade those guys. Then with Udrih, that Pooh dude, Greene, Dalembert and Thompson they have a solid bench. A lot of teams would love to have Dalembert or Thompson as their backup big men. I swear the Kings and Clippers are gonna be real good in a couple years if they can keep their young cores and add a few guys along the way. The Spurs are having a great season but will be done once Duncan retires, Suns are gonna be done real soon, D-Will might leave once he's a free agent, you know CP3 is leaving the Hornets, Lakers haven't looked sharp lately and Kobe isn't getting any younger. Clips, Kings and Warriors are on the come-up for sure.

 

[buc em]

Originally Posted by Beats05

Originally Posted by Buc Em

My man Cousins 

dude has personality on the court, you know when he's out there. not much dudes have that nowadays. SMH @ philly for taking Turner over him when they already had Iggy, Thad, Lou, Meeks, Nocioni and Kapono at the wing and forward spots.

I really like this Kings team....how the hell is their record so bad I don't get it?

I've caught every game. Their record is bad for a few reasons. The main reason is Tyreke has been battling a foot injury all year and just hasn't been himself. He's shooting 30-something percent on the year because he's been shooting jumpers instead of driving. Another reason is Cousins has JUST learned how to stay out of foul trouble. When he's on the court and they're feeding him in the post, we are a very good team. But for most of the year, he was on the bench for long stretches at a time because his fouls were always the quarter+1. Another reason is we were playing Donte Greene instead of Garcia and Casspi for most of the year, and Donte Greene would just chuck threes all day at 20%. We've had more than 10 different starting lineups and we're just starting to figure things out.
We still need more shooters though. When Garcia and Casspi are out there, they spread the floor for Evans and Cousins to do damage. 

Well Reke, Garcia, Casspi, Landry and Cousins sounds like a hell of a squad to me and looked like one tonight. They all complement eachother so nicely. They need to stick together and not trade those guys. Then with Udrih, that Pooh dude, Greene, Dalembert and Thompson they have a solid bench. A lot of teams would love to have Dalembert or Thompson as their backup big men. I swear the Kings and Clippers are gonna be real good in a couple years if they can keep their young cores and add a few guys along the way. The Spurs are having a great season but will be done once Duncan retires, Suns are gonna be done real soon, D-Will might leave once he's a free agent, you know CP3 is leaving the Hornets, Lakers haven't looked sharp lately and Kobe isn't getting any younger. Clips, Kings and Warriors are on the come-up for sure.

 

[mister916]

Why the hell is Chuck so mad? He doesn't even know what he's talking about. Never took him seriously anyways.

 

[mister916]

Why the hell is Chuck so mad? He doesn't even know what he's talking about. Never took him seriously anyways.

 

[mister916]

[h1]Ailene Voisin: Dalembert vents over diminished role[/h1]
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By Ailene Voisin
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Published: Thursday, Jan. 6, 2011 - 12:00 am| Page 1C

Last Modified: Thursday, Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:49 am

Samuel Dalembert's stay in Sacramento has been short and anything but sweet. The Kings center has been injured, frustrated about the style of play and, of late, more than mildly upset about his diminishing role.

If he isn't exactly demanding a trade, his agent, Marc Cornstein, is in town seeking clarification of his client's role – and is more than a little receptive to a relocation.

"They have to let me know which direction they want to go," Dalembert said. "They know what I do best. I block shots, rebound, get us in the fast break. Am I going to play the next five years in a place that is a contender, or am I going to be here, helping this team get better? It's up to them. But I am not going to lie. This is very frustrating."

Seven minutes against Denver. Four minutes against Phoenix. Eighteen minutes against Atlanta.

No, this isn't what Dalembert expected when he arrived in the offseason swap that sent Spencer Hawes and Andres Nocioni to Philadelphia. He spoke joyfully about new beginnings and the fast-paced Western Conference. He planned to be a defensive anchor, not a $12.2 million albatross. He expected to be a major contributor, at the very least.

Instead, nine weeks into the regular season, both parties are disappointed, the Kings are committed to rookie DeMarcus Cousins and trade conversations regarding Dalembert and his expiring contract are ongoing. (Houston, Orlando and Oklahoma City are seeking frontcourt size.)

"It's been stops and starts for him," coach Paul Westphal said, "and right now his role is probably a little less than I thought it would be."

Two developments in particular have conspired against the ninth-year pro – an inner thigh injury that forced him to miss all of training camp, and Cousins' rapid development.

Dalembert, who averaged 8.1 points and 9.6 rebounds in his final season with the 76ers, has been pain-free for only the past month. His poor conditioning has hampered his mobility and effectiveness on the court, most notably his timing for rebounds and blocked shots. In his attempt to play catch-up, he walks to the training facility after every home game – while still in uniform – for additional time on the cardiovascular equipment.

Yet the reality is this: While Dalembert is averaging 20 minutes, shooting 40 percent from the floor and contributing 6.8 rebounds per game, Cousins is emerging as a major talent. Cousins is behaving. And Cousins is the future.

Where exactly does that leave Dalembert? He's curious. And still hopeful. He also suggests the Kings should play faster and engage in less one-on-one, believes he and Cousins can be paired on the front line, enjoys the way Pooh Jeter directs the offense, and admits that the team's prolonged slump is worsening his mood.

"They brought me here to help," he said, "and when I see my team getting destroyed defensively, it's hard."

The impassioned Dalembert, 29, is like most big men in the league. They all want more touches. He thinks he is a more efficient scorer than his game and reputation indicate. Press the point, and he nods, grinning. But he also is known as one of the NBA's kinder, gentler souls whose humanitarian efforts are reminiscent of former Kings icon Vlade Divac. Even his venting is interspersed with reminders that he "just wants to help us win."

"I talked to Geoff (Petrie)," Cornstein said, "and we don't want to hit the panic button. All the reasons we were so excited for him to come here are still there. We're just trying to find a solution. It's really not his choice. That (a potential trade) is for the team to decide. We have to see how things progress and play out."

The NBA is a crazy, fluid business, and situations change quickly (see Cousins and Westphal doghouse). But Arco Arena simply might be too small for the two big men.

"The way DeMarcus has progressed, it's not like I'm going to split those (4 minutes," Westphal said. "At the same time, I think Sam can be valuable if DeMarcus picks up early fouls, or we need somebody in particular guarded. But there are other nights when I'll play Jason (Thompson) as the backup center."

Crazy, fluid business indeed.

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[mister916]

[h1]Ailene Voisin: Dalembert vents over diminished role[/h1]
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By Ailene Voisin
[email protected]

Published: Thursday, Jan. 6, 2011 - 12:00 am| Page 1C

Last Modified: Thursday, Jan. 6, 2011 - 8:49 am

Samuel Dalembert's stay in Sacramento has been short and anything but sweet. The Kings center has been injured, frustrated about the style of play and, of late, more than mildly upset about his diminishing role.

If he isn't exactly demanding a trade, his agent, Marc Cornstein, is in town seeking clarification of his client's role – and is more than a little receptive to a relocation.

"They have to let me know which direction they want to go," Dalembert said. "They know what I do best. I block shots, rebound, get us in the fast break. Am I going to play the next five years in a place that is a contender, or am I going to be here, helping this team get better? It's up to them. But I am not going to lie. This is very frustrating."

Seven minutes against Denver. Four minutes against Phoenix. Eighteen minutes against Atlanta.

No, this isn't what Dalembert expected when he arrived in the offseason swap that sent Spencer Hawes and Andres Nocioni to Philadelphia. He spoke joyfully about new beginnings and the fast-paced Western Conference. He planned to be a defensive anchor, not a $12.2 million albatross. He expected to be a major contributor, at the very least.

Instead, nine weeks into the regular season, both parties are disappointed, the Kings are committed to rookie DeMarcus Cousins and trade conversations regarding Dalembert and his expiring contract are ongoing. (Houston, Orlando and Oklahoma City are seeking frontcourt size.)

"It's been stops and starts for him," coach Paul Westphal said, "and right now his role is probably a little less than I thought it would be."

Two developments in particular have conspired against the ninth-year pro – an inner thigh injury that forced him to miss all of training camp, and Cousins' rapid development.

Dalembert, who averaged 8.1 points and 9.6 rebounds in his final season with the 76ers, has been pain-free for only the past month. His poor conditioning has hampered his mobility and effectiveness on the court, most notably his timing for rebounds and blocked shots. In his attempt to play catch-up, he walks to the training facility after every home game – while still in uniform – for additional time on the cardiovascular equipment.

Yet the reality is this: While Dalembert is averaging 20 minutes, shooting 40 percent from the floor and contributing 6.8 rebounds per game, Cousins is emerging as a major talent. Cousins is behaving. And Cousins is the future.

Where exactly does that leave Dalembert? He's curious. And still hopeful. He also suggests the Kings should play faster and engage in less one-on-one, believes he and Cousins can be paired on the front line, enjoys the way Pooh Jeter directs the offense, and admits that the team's prolonged slump is worsening his mood.

"They brought me here to help," he said, "and when I see my team getting destroyed defensively, it's hard."

The impassioned Dalembert, 29, is like most big men in the league. They all want more touches. He thinks he is a more efficient scorer than his game and reputation indicate. Press the point, and he nods, grinning. But he also is known as one of the NBA's kinder, gentler souls whose humanitarian efforts are reminiscent of former Kings icon Vlade Divac. Even his venting is interspersed with reminders that he "just wants to help us win."

"I talked to Geoff (Petrie)," Cornstein said, "and we don't want to hit the panic button. All the reasons we were so excited for him to come here are still there. We're just trying to find a solution. It's really not his choice. That (a potential trade) is for the team to decide. We have to see how things progress and play out."

The NBA is a crazy, fluid business, and situations change quickly (see Cousins and Westphal doghouse). But Arco Arena simply might be too small for the two big men.

"The way DeMarcus has progressed, it's not like I'm going to split those (4 minutes," Westphal said. "At the same time, I think Sam can be valuable if DeMarcus picks up early fouls, or we need somebody in particular guarded. But there are other nights when I'll play Jason (Thompson) as the backup center."

Crazy, fluid business indeed.

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[mister916]

Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams

hello.

Where the hell have you been?

 

[mister916]

Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams

hello.

Where the hell have you been?

 

[lightweight champion]

Great win. If they keep playing like they've been playing the rest of the way 30 wins might still be possible...probably not though