:::[Official] San Francisco 49ers 2024 Season Thread [2-2 vs Cardinals 10/07 1:05PST]:::

[niketalker23]

I defenitely think this offseason is going to be a major reflecting point for him. Even if they do manage to make a late run largely in part to a division that’s allowed them to hang around. They should be at minimum 7-4 right now if it weren’t for all 3 idiotic division losses. If you’re in that position, all these injuries going into a tough stretch is much more of a softer blow. The late game mismanagement in 3 winnable games is a big reason why they’re in the hole they’re currently in. This dude needs to own those failures this offseason. I don’t need no rah rah press conference from him where he says all the right things. Just own it behind closed doors through changing bad habits.

As for Kyle himself. This is really the first underachieving season they’ve had due to circumstances that weren’t beyond his control. They’ve had injuries this year, but it’s been nowhere near as bad as 2020 and injuries aren’t why they imploded in the 3 divisional game L’s.

Yeah they went 6-10 in 2020. But that injury situation was legitimately out of control, mixed in with having to play late home games in Arizona along with all the other Covid bs. 2018 they were cooked when Jimmy went down and there was no expectations for 2017 and they finished strong.

Hufanga out
Greenlaw out
Hargrave out
CMC out
Aiyuk out
Ward missing extended time
Jennings missing extended time
Williams

Those are significant injuries. That's not even bringing up Purdy, Kittle, Bosa, Trent who have also missed games or have been banged up.

Saying he needs a major reflecting point after 4 straight NFCCG and 2 SBs is a but much.

Sorensen seems to be a mistake and so is hiring Staley. They need to get a DC, Kyle needs to adjust his offense like he has in the past, and we'll be ok.

People are starting to sound exactly how they did when they wanted Harbaugh gone.

 

[moe200069]

No thanks on Belichick. Those years with Mac Jones were enough to tell me that he would've been nothing without the GOAT.

Shoot, I'd rather have Deion Sanders than Belichick. Plus, if you can't stand Shanahan's smugness in press conferences, you're going to hate watching Belichick after a niners loss.

 

[niketalker23]

No thanks on Belichick. Those years with Mac Jones were enough to tell me that he would've been nothing without the GOAT.

Shoot, I'd rather have Deion Sanders than Belichick. Plus, if you can't stand Shanahan's smugness in press conferences, you're going to hate watching Belichick after a niners loss.

Ill take him as DC though.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

i don’t want a dude who’s preoccupied with chasing around his 20yr old girlfriend

Well if you put it that way then maybe just maybe Boyfriend Bill may fail with the 9ers too and we’re right back at square one

Here’s the thing though, say we part ways with Kyle and Kyle takes the Jacksonville or Cincinnati job, you think Kyle with either of those teams beats KC, Baltimore, or Buffalo? Three teams Kyle has never beaten.

Hmm……

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Hufanga out
Greenlaw out
Hargrave out
CMC out
Aiyuk out
Ward missing extended time
Jennings missing extended time
Williams

Those are significant injuries. That's not even bringing up Purdy, Kittle, Bosa, Trent who have also missed games or have been banged up.

Saying he needs a major reflecting point after 4 straight NFCCG and 2 SBs is a but much.

Sorensen seems to be a mistake and so is hiring Staley. They need to get a DC, Kyle needs to adjust his offense like he has in the past, and we'll be ok.

People are starting to sound exactly how they did when they wanted Harbaugh gone.

IMO every team has injuries. So the injuries are not an excuse. Only Hargrave and Aiyuk are out for the season. Everyone else on that list is only banged up.

The point is, even with the injuries Kyle is failing as a coach because his team is completely undisciplined in ALL FACETS of the game.

Even with those injuries, did you think the 9ers would be better than 5-6 going on 5-7?

I surely did. Team should still be at least 7-4 WITH the injuries. That’s a mark of a great coach.

Kyle is underachieving in his role and his players are following suit.

That’s the main case for letting him go

 

[Dark Brandon]

What Belichick did with the Browns and the Jets has nothing to do with what he’s accomplished with the Patriots and the NY Giants. He knows how to get all the way to the top is the point.

As a 49ers fan, are you content with just getting to the SB or do you want to see your team finally win it all?

There’s a saying, second place only means you’re the best loser. And Shanahan is 3-for-3 at that.

Telling me what Bill Belichick didn’t accomplish with the Browns and Jets means nothing as it relates to what he could do with a completely different organization such as the 49ers.

And here’s the thing, the Browns and Jets are perennial losers with no history of sustained winning so again, what he did there means nothing when you compare it to the 49ers organization.

The POINT is, Bill is smarter, better, savvier than Kyle because the track record, eye test, smell test, ear test and all the rest of the evidence says so

Belichick is 83-101 without Brady.

He’s 1-2 in the playoffs without Brady. You know who that 1 win is against? The Patriots.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

No thanks on Belichick. Those years with Mac Jones were enough to tell me that he would've been nothing without the GOAT.

Shoot, I'd rather have Deion Sanders than Belichick. Plus, if you can't stand Shanahan's smugness in press conferences, you're going to hate watching Belichick after a niners loss.

If Belichick leads the 49ers to a Lombardi and if Belichick shows complete command of the clock and if Belichick shows me he is 100% completely aware of game situations and adapts, I could care less how he is in press conferences.

This is about having a leader of men who inspires his players to always play at their best because their coach isn’t stubborn and doesn’t keep repeating the same mistakes year after year hoping to see different results.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Belichick is 83-101 without Brady.

He’s 1-2 in the playoffs without Brady. You know who that 1 win is against? The Patriots.

All that doesn’t mean anything to me, sorry.

Who’s a better HEAD coach and a better leader and who has proven to win multiple Lombardi’s, Bill or Kyle?

This argument that he had Brady means nothing. Seems like you’re dismissing the importance of having a great coach when a team is built to win a chip.

Because KC also had Montana and did KC win the Super Bowl with Joe? Favre took the Vikings all the way to the NFCCG, did he win a SB with the Vikings while he was still one of the most dangerous QB’s in the league at the time?

Kyle had arguably the best offense in the league with ATL and he still got outsmarted by Belichick in the Super Bowl

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Ill take him as DC though.

DC, assistant to head coach, heck put him on special teams, I don’t care.

The 49ers would immediately be better with Bill in the fold

 

[DonRafa]

If Belichick leads the 49ers to a Lombardi and if Belichick shows complete command of the clock and if Belichick shows me he is 100% completely aware of game situations and adapts, I could care less how he is in press conferences.

This is about having a leader of men who inspires his players to always play at their best because their coach isn’t stubborn and doesn’t keep repeating the same mistakes year after year hoping to see different results.

you can replace bill with barney and the same
would be true though. if we win a chip don’t care, id be rocking with the big purple guy

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

you can replace bill with barney and the same
would be true though. if we win a chip don’t care, id be rocking with the big purple guy

Can Kyle play the role of the big purple guy in your scenario for the next 4 years?

Whatchu honestly think?

 

[moe200069]

All that doesn’t mean anything to me, sorry.

Who’s a better HEAD coach and a better leader and who has proven to win multiple Lombardi’s, Bill or Kyle?

This argument that he had Brady means nothing. Seems like you’re dismissing the importance of having a great coach when a team is built to win a chip.

Because KC also had Montana and did KC win the Super Bowl with Joe? Favre took the Vikings all the way to the NFCCG, did he win a SB with the Vikings while he was still one of the most dangerous QB’s in the league at the time?

Kyle had arguably the best offense in the league with ATL and he still got outsmarted by Belichick in the Super Bowl

i get that Belichick has 6 rings but where was this leadership in the 4 years after TB12 left? One appearance in wild card loss does not scream "leader of men"

 

[2pacalypsenow]

I would also argue, besides the laundry list of players injured this season, the team was still talented enough to win the games they lost (besides the KC game). All those losses came in the same fashion the 9ers have lost on the biggest stage. It doesn’t help that Kyle began his track record before joining as head coach.

It’s great he brought the team to where it’s at today. But again, if the goal is to get to the big stage, then we’re here. But if the goal is to win it all, we’re not there and won’t be. Since Kyle’s tenure, we’ve seen many orgs come from the bottom, and we’re still knocking on the doors to a championship.

A classic analogy is Mark Jackson’s warriors. Talented org but couldn’t break it to the finals. Steve comes along and spawns 4 championships. Sometimes it’s a collective effort. Thank you Kyle, but the org needs to move on to get to a ring. If we don’t do it now, we lose out on the windows of our primed players.

 

[Fozz]

Life has been busy and I hope you all have a good time celebrating Turkey Day.

Niners stink!

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

i get that Belichick has 6 rings but where was this leadership in the 4 years after TB12 left? One appearance in wild card loss does not scream "leader of men"

He had a sorry xxx team and sorry xxx QB after Brady, Gronk, et al left. The fact he even made the wild card with a bunch of tier 2 players speaks volumes.

You think Kyle could lead the Jaguars to the playoffs every year for the next four years and have a legit shot to win it all with that team and Lawrence at QB?

A championship team is a well oiled and well balanced machine. Great coach and coaching staff and great players is what’s needed. Gotta have both to win it all

Popovich should have no business coaching after Duncan, Manu, Kawhi, and Tony all left. But why is Pops still there all these years later? Because he is a great leader of men and it won’t be long til he reaches the playoffs with Wemby once he gets legit talent around him.

It’s for the same reason LAL fired Darvin Ham after Ham reached the WCF a year before he got canned. Because LAL had a playoff roster and solid talent but Ham wasn’t a great leader and always failed when situational awareness was needed most when games mattered most.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

I would also argue, besides the laundry list of players injured this season, the team was still talented enough to win the games they lost (besides the KC game). All those losses came in the same fashion the 9ers have lost on the biggest stage. It doesn’t help that Kyle began his track record before joining as head coach.

It’s great he brought the team to where it’s at today. But again, if the goal is to get to the big stage, then we’re here. But if the goal is to win it all, we’re not there and won’t be. Since Kyle’s tenure, we’ve seen many orgs come from the bottom, and we’re still knocking on the doors to a championship.

A classic analogy is Mark Jackson’s warriors. Talented org but couldn’t break it to the finals. Steve comes along and spawns 4 championships. Sometimes it’s a collective effort. Thank you Kyle, but the org needs to move on to get to a ring. If we don’t do it now, we lose out on the windows of our primed players.

ALL OF THIS

 

[22stylez]

NT Faithful Civil War! I’m on team #KeepKyle

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

I love it when we all get into riveting discussions about our team and we learn from one another. That’s what I think solid fandom is about. We don’t always have to agree as fans of the same team. And differing opinions and mutual respect is always appreciated and admired.

I probably annoy some of you lol but I truly appreciate you guys like no other thread!

The Laker thread, on the other hand……well yeah no comment

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

For the record, I wasn’t an NT member at that time but I was 10000% FOR keeping Harbaugh and canning Balke.

I don’t like Jed. He’s an idiot of an owner just like Jeanie Buss imho.

 

[2pacalypsenow]

Yea. I’m all for a civil debate, I still love my NT 9er fam. NT and my family is my only crash outlet. I more reserved around my friends lol