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Triple dipping when you consider the government-funded grants
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Triple dipping when you consider the government-funded grants
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understood
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thats true. stevens graduated people with bachelors degrees with $100k job offers, high $80s was normal for co-op students. but im not gonna lie, the course work for most of us was grueling
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The students looked stressed as hell when I visited.
Between that and the school being a sausage fest, I said I'm good.
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The students looked stressed as hell when I visited.
Between that and the school being a sausage fest, I said I'm good.
Lmao you really cant hide it. That is not an exaggeration. and the work ebbed and flowed. there were weeks we had nothing going on, and then weeks where it was test after test after test. Not gonna lie, deans had to step in a few times and tell proffesor to switch thing sup because class averages would get low as hell
we got through it thoughI was in greek life (which is completely different at stevens for a lot of reasons) so i didnt have many issues with meeting girls. and once i turned 21 Hoboken had a huge bar scene where plenty of black folk and POC would come to a few spots. plus the path train to the city was in walking distance. My social life was pretty poppin while i was there. the curriculum though was definitely depression inducing. that said, in the industry employers know what theyre getting with stevens grads so our resmumes hold some weight. Once i transition into the GM roll im going to be hitting up my NSBE chapter and start interviewing some black engineers
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Lmao you really cant hide it. That is not an exaggeration. and the work ebbed and flowed. there were weeks we had nothing going on, and then weeks where it was test after test after test. Not gonna lie, deans had to step in a few times and tell proffesor to switch thing sup because class averages would get low as hell
I was in greek life (which is completely different at stevens for a lot of reasons) so i didnt have many issues with meeting girls. and once i turned 21 Hoboken had a huge bar scene where plenty of black folk and POC would come to a few spots. plus the path train to the city was in walking distance. My social life was pretty poppin while i was there. the curriculum though was definitely depression inducing. that said, in the industry employers know what theyre getting with stevens grads so our resmumes hold some weight. Once i transition into the GM roll im going to be hitting up my NSBE chapter and start interviewing some black engineers
My school was pretty rigorous but we were good at hiding it, I think that's just hard to do at a mostly engineering school. We could at least get the bubbly art students and hippies to give tours. We had 2 suicides during my 4 years of college, smh.
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feel you.
i went to temple. i think it was like 25k a yr with room and board? something like that...
anyways it was prolly one of the best times of my life. the social aspect of college was really fun and i made good friends. it was an awesome time. the EE degree was miserable honestly..i didn't do well in school, but i had fun oddly if that makes sense.
going away for school meant i was my own person, responsible for myself and in a position where my actions dictated how well i kicked off life after college. but at a cost of 5 yrs tuition plus other ****.
i could have gone to CUNY City College uptown in Harlem. great engineering school, and prolly wouldn't have paid a damn thing since I'm from the city. could've saved my fam MAD bread by comparison, but...id like to think i got a college experience at temple i would've otherwise missed out on.
state schools are great, but either way, no education is worth 70k imo. idc if it is Harvard or cal tech.
(also I'm using 70k as an example)
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Harvard and Caltech is definitely worth 70k. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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so when is our country ready to talk about this (lack of economic diversity in our unis)? plus the vast majority (86% one study shows) that students coming from families of the bottom 40-50% income are white and asian.
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My Alma mater's tuition is currently 59000 without room and board.
Naw that ain't it yall. That ain't it.
without room and board.Naw that ain't it yall. That ain't it.
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haha why tho
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we've had people die but never explicitly called out as suicide. the pressure is real. glad i made it out on the other side
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i think people discount the fact of the caliber of students you meet when you are in Unis & how that can impact you as a person
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1. It's Harvard.
2. It's caltech
The connections you make at these schools are invaluable. The education at caltech and MIT are second to none when it comes to engineering.
The average incomes coming out of these schools after UNDERGRAD are ridiculous. Hell Harvard is worth it just for bragging rights but I'm vain and petty
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my cousin said this too and I called bs. buuuut i don't have a good reason to call bs. maybe I'm hatin lol but the Harvard name can kiss my ***. most people out there in the work force, esp in engineering didn't go to Harvard...ESPECIALLY in MA. because there are more prominent engineering schools. so I always saw harvard as a school for just the name.
MIT I'm not gonna front. you go to MIT or Caltech you got it. you nice with the maths.
i just think education is way too expensive for what it is. I'm sure prices can vary depending on the school, but no1 generally has 70k a year to blow like that, which is where im coming from when I say it ain't worth it.
if that makes sense.
also once the experience is gained, undergrad don't mean ****.
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Harvard is not a school just for name but it also sort of is. You learn from the very best in their respective fields. Look up the number of ceos and prominent people coming from there. Their endowment is literally higher than many whole countries.
Having Harvard on your resume will make many positions ignore the rest of your CV and just hirer you on the spot. Like you said you have no reason to call BS. A Harvard name also gets you into the best med schools, law schools and grad schools.
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when you start looking at more nuanced ranking list for these schools, you start seeing schools you probably wouldnt associate with high ranking. If you search something vague like "best schools" youll get a different list than if you search for "schools with best ROI". that said there is intrisic value in attending a prestigious school
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I am sure if you look up the costs of the schools they went to, it would be $50-70k range as well unless they got into their top in-state Uni (Cali kid got into UCB/UCLA, Texas into UT Austin, etc)
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Yea, I've heard so many stories of older workers from less prestigious schools getting forced out of their positions by new Harvard grads.
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not doubting what you are saying but do you mind sharing sum stories?
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i was thinking in terms of like...from what I've seen in engineering up here in Boston. when u think of engineering schools you think of Northeastern, MIT, WPI, UMass Lowell, Wentworth. BU, Tufts..
Harvard acceptance rate so low, that the avg person you encounter up here in the industry didn't go to ivy league for engineering. not to say it can't happen.
Obviously it will never hurt to go to Harvard, but like...you gonna be just fine if you go to any of those other schools.
Harvard acceptance rate so low, that the avg person you encounter up here in the industry didn't go to ivy league for engineering. not to say it can't happen.
Obviously it will never hurt to go to Harvard, but like...you gonna be just fine if you go to any of those other schools.
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I didn't go to Harvard, it's all hearsay. Experience isn't valued by many industries. I'm in the medical field and older doctors get forced out of leadership positions all the time because they want "new blood". Whatever the hell that means.
There are many situations in corporate America were experience means nothing
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I mean MIT and Harvard represent only a tiny fraction of Engineering graduates. Chances are most engineers you run into didn't come out of these relatively small schools.
The jobs graduates from MIT get are probably some exclusive stuff like working for NASA and what not.
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just outta curiosity, if your kid got into Harvard and Northeastern and wants to do engineering, what are you going to suggest to him/her?
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I'd disown them if they picked northeastern over Harvard. I'm not even joking.
