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That's fair i guess
Official Victor Ortiz vs Mayweather 9/17/11
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That's fair i guess
Pathos
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Ortiz is 1" taller than PBF
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Ortiz is 1" taller than PBF
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That's one more inch to put on the ground.
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That's one more inch to put on the ground.
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Have you guys seen affeon crockets PAC act
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Have you guys seen affeon crockets PAC act
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I love when Floyd messes with ppl before the match and also sometimes when he's on his way out lol I swear he should be named Floyd ochocinco
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I love when Floyd messes with ppl before the match and also sometimes when he's on his way out lol I swear he should be named Floyd ochocinco
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This dude stuntin for the troops on 24/7.
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This dude stuntin for the troops on 24/7.
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What does that even mean? Giving the fans the most bang for their buck? Ending the fight by stoppage would have been giving the fans the most bang for their buck because that fight was a 12 round snoozefest that nobody enjoyed.
RetroSan wrote:
That's fair i guess, i remember when the fam had a party for the Pacquiao vs. Hatton and it was about 1-2 rounds of fighting
That's actually what boxing fans love to see. Millions of people used to buy Tyson PPV fights just to see him knock out some tomato cans in the first round.
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What does that even mean? Giving the fans the most bang for their buck? Ending the fight by stoppage would have been giving the fans the most bang for their buck because that fight was a 12 round snoozefest that nobody enjoyed.
RetroSan wrote:
That's fair i guess, i remember when the fam had a party for the Pacquiao vs. Hatton and it was about 1-2 rounds of fighting
That's actually what boxing fans love to see. Millions of people used to buy Tyson PPV fights just to see him knock out some tomato cans in the first round.
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My prediction: PBF TKO6 Ortiz .. I just don't see Vic having a chance in there. Floyd Mayweather will control every second of every round. And when that happens, bear in mind, Floyd has not fought in over 16 months.
I think everyone is buying the 24/7 hype and are giving too much credit for Vic as a KO Artist. You would think Floyd was going against Mike Tyson the way some folks are talking. Ortiz' last bouts (besides his stoppage of ancient journeyman Vivian Harris): He went the distance with Andre Berto, Lamont Peterson, and Nate Campbell. All of them Floyd would have stopped.
Yall are forgetting that this is only Vic's 2nd fight ever at 147. I'm not saying he's too small (he looked every bit of a welterweight against Berto), but it should be kept in mind.
I think everyone is buying the 24/7 hype and are giving too much credit for Vic as a KO Artist. You would think Floyd was going against Mike Tyson the way some folks are talking. Ortiz' last bouts (besides his stoppage of ancient journeyman Vivian Harris): He went the distance with Andre Berto, Lamont Peterson, and Nate Campbell. All of them Floyd would have stopped.
Yall are forgetting that this is only Vic's 2nd fight ever at 147. I'm not saying he's too small (he looked every bit of a welterweight against Berto), but it should be kept in mind.
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My prediction: PBF TKO6 Ortiz .. I just don't see Vic having a chance in there. Floyd Mayweather will control every second of every round. And when that happens, bear in mind, Floyd has not fought in over 16 months.
I think everyone is buying the 24/7 hype and are giving too much credit for Vic as a KO Artist. You would think Floyd was going against Mike Tyson the way some folks are talking. Ortiz' last bouts (besides his stoppage of ancient journeyman Vivian Harris): He went the distance with Andre Berto, Lamont Peterson, and Nate Campbell. All of them Floyd would have stopped.
Yall are forgetting that this is only Vic's 2nd fight ever at 147. I'm not saying he's too small (he looked every bit of a welterweight against Berto), but it should be kept in mind.
I think everyone is buying the 24/7 hype and are giving too much credit for Vic as a KO Artist. You would think Floyd was going against Mike Tyson the way some folks are talking. Ortiz' last bouts (besides his stoppage of ancient journeyman Vivian Harris): He went the distance with Andre Berto, Lamont Peterson, and Nate Campbell. All of them Floyd would have stopped.
Yall are forgetting that this is only Vic's 2nd fight ever at 147. I'm not saying he's too small (he looked every bit of a welterweight against Berto), but it should be kept in mind.
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Damn.. I wish i didn't just watch 24/7... I felt really good about Ortiz shocking the world that I even put $100 on it.. then I watch this dude acting so out of character with all the tough talk and false bravado.. think he is trying to convince himself more than anyone else that he actually belongs.. dude lacks the focus and confidence it takes to beat a world class fighter like pbf..Hope I'm wrong tho..
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Damn.. I wish i didn't just watch 24/7... I felt really good about Ortiz shocking the world that I even put $100 on it.. then I watch this dude acting so out of character with all the tough talk and false bravado.. think he is trying to convince himself more than anyone else that he actually belongs.. dude lacks the focus and confidence it takes to beat a world class fighter like pbf..Hope I'm wrong tho..
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I honestly think Berto at his best is slightly better then Ortiz even though Berto has looked lackluster in his last 2 fights. And I think Floyd would beat them all....but not stopped them (assuming you mean KO or TKO).
But I read an article recently on the 5 reasons why Victor has a shot to beat Floyd. In a nut shell
1. Victor is a high volume puncher: Floyd is the best defensive fighter in boxing but as long as victor doesn't get discouraged (Shane Mosely) he will throw a lot of punches throughout the fight. This at nothing else increases his chances of actually landing a solid shot.
2. Victor throws power punches: Of the 281 punches thrown against Andre Berto, an incredible 266 of them were power punches.
3. Victor is hungry: young fighter that has been through a lot to finally get his shot
4.Victor has a great chin: Victor Ortiz took the best shots Andre Berto had to offer and hopped off the canvas as soon as he hit when knocked down. And if you saw the Maidana fight you know he can take a punch
5. Floyd may be using this fight as a warm up for Manny : Overlooking Ortiz?
[h2]http://bleacherreport.com...n-upset-money-may/page/6
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Not that many of them are great reason's but it wasn't a bad read. Still have Floyd winning but Ortiz has "a punchers chance" and honestly if he doesn't go into a shell and is willing to get hit i believe it should be at least a very exciting fight.
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I honestly think Berto at his best is slightly better then Ortiz even though Berto has looked lackluster in his last 2 fights. And I think Floyd would beat them all....but not stopped them (assuming you mean KO or TKO).
But I read an article recently on the 5 reasons why Victor has a shot to beat Floyd. In a nut shell
1. Victor is a high volume puncher: Floyd is the best defensive fighter in boxing but as long as victor doesn't get discouraged (Shane Mosely) he will throw a lot of punches throughout the fight. This at nothing else increases his chances of actually landing a solid shot.
2. Victor throws power punches: Of the 281 punches thrown against Andre Berto, an incredible 266 of them were power punches.
3. Victor is hungry: young fighter that has been through a lot to finally get his shot
4.Victor has a great chin: Victor Ortiz took the best shots Andre Berto had to offer and hopped off the canvas as soon as he hit when knocked down. And if you saw the Maidana fight you know he can take a punch
5. Floyd may be using this fight as a warm up for Manny : Overlooking Ortiz?
[h2]http://bleacherreport.com...n-upset-money-may/page/6
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Not that many of them are great reason's but it wasn't a bad read. Still have Floyd winning but Ortiz has "a punchers chance" and honestly if he doesn't go into a shell and is willing to get hit i believe it should be at least a very exciting fight.
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^ Those are great salient points from the article about Ortiz Jking0821 but I will never forget the Maidana fight. Ortiz laid down like a rug which is a cardinal sin for a fighter. You never give up in the ring. It's what you train for. For me at least, Ortiz has to beat Mayweather resoundingly in order to erase the Maidana fight. If he looses this fight, I'm afraid his career will never go anywhere (even though he's young).
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^ Those are great salient points from the article about Ortiz Jking0821 but I will never forget the Maidana fight. Ortiz laid down like a rug which is a cardinal sin for a fighter. You never give up in the ring. It's what you train for. For me at least, Ortiz has to beat Mayweather resoundingly in order to erase the Maidana fight. If he looses this fight, I'm afraid his career will never go anywhere (even though he's young).
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It's really early, and I'm worried I just woke up my neighbors with my laughter after I read this.
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It's really early, and I'm worried I just woke up my neighbors with my laughter after I read this.
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Physically he can take shots and that fight did prove it.
His face was badly messed up. And he never got knocked out. Mentally he couldn't take the punches....thats why he quit....but physically he got rocked and still never got knocked out.
http://www.insidehboboxin...s-keys-to-the-fight.html
Another good read actually giving some credentials to the argument lol.
