:::[Official]World Cup South Africa 2010 Thread:::

[kidoopz]

OM Goodness LMAO... 7-0 ... Thank you Portugal

   8??

 

[leroythegreat38]

I'm surprised Ronaldo didn't hit the ground after that goalie tried to kick the ball away.

 

[xtapolapacetl]

This is too much. I'm starting to get worried for North Korean players and their well being once they return to North Korea. This is no laughing matter.

 

[sinser13]

#POR

 

[omgitswes]

I looked online at the score then went to my car to watch the rest on my phone and posting from it.
That game was like a video game. That will not end well for them, embarrassing their country like that lol

It's an actual football score

 

[jd214]

We need a Ronaldo goal GIF

 

[zerogravity23]

 

[cryingfreemancoa]

RIP to the North Korean team may god be with them

 

[newmoanyuh]

Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa

RIP to the North Korean team may god be with them

 

[jd214]

Originally Posted by newmoanyuh

Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa

RIP to the North Korean team may god be with them

This,what a shame to their country

 

[wayne looney]

Ronaldo

credit to the North Koreans for continuing to try and play though instead of turning it into a foul fest

 

[f sharp005]

Don't know which is worse:

44 years ago, DPRK going up 3 goals only to lose 5-3 to the same country Portugal (Euseubio

), or getting your a*s handed to you 7-0 - with the game televised in DPRK.

The '10 N. Korean squad better start seeking asylum.

Peace
F Sharp005

 

[jd214]

Originally Posted by F Sharp005


Don't know which is worse:

44 years ago, DPRK going up 3 goals only to lose 5-3 to the same country Portugal (Euseubio

), or getting your a*s handed to you 7-0 - with the game televised in DPRK.

The '10 N. Korean squad better start seeking asylum.

Peace
F Sharp005

You can't be serious though. It has to be 7-0.

After this Korea should discontinue their National Team no joke.

 

[sinser13]

Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa

RIP to the North Korean team may god be with them

He's waiting for them to get back home.

 

[keepie uppie]

Ronaldo's goal...video game glitch?

 

[newmoanyuh]

This is not going to sit well at all with Kim Jeong Il
I fear for the safety of the players and their families.
The Zanichi have a chance,but the others...

 

[jd214]

Originally Posted by sinser13

Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa

RIP to the North Korean team may god be with them

He's waiting for them to get back home.

Dude is a joke I don't know how so many people listen to this bum @$+, can they not see or something.

 

[carlos tevez]

Was this match televised over there?

If not, I can imagine the headlines tomorrow:
"DPR Korea defeat Portugal 7-0"
                   "Asian Rooney with a hattrick"

 

[debso]

Originally Posted by newmoanyuh

Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa

RIP to the North Korean team may god be with them

they're gonna be with God shortly.

 

[tonton32]

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Was this match televised over there?

If not, I can imagine the headlines tomorrow:
"DPR Korea defeat Portugal 7-0"
                   "Asian Rooney with a hattrick"

exactly. this news is never goin to make it to the people. and if it does, THEN you have to worry about these players.

 

[f sharp005]

Unfortunately, yes:

http://g.ca.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/north-korean-state-tv-airing-world-cup-match-live--fbintl_ap-wcup-nkorea-livebroadcasts.html

Peace
F Sharp005

 

[newmoanyuh]

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Was this match televised over there?

If not, I can imagine the headlines tomorrow:
"DPR Korea defeat Portugal 7-0"
                   "Asian Rooney with a hattrick"

1.They don't have electricity. It's only turned on during special occasions like when foreigners visit. (looking at link I guess it is a special occasion. this will not end well)
2.You think they would actually have newspapers? with ideas that north korea is not the best country in the world?
3.They'll just turn it into propaganda and tell everyone that North Korea won,just like they won the last game.

Originally Posted by JD214

Dude is a joke I don't know how so many people listen to this bum @$+, can they not see or something.

1. It's all they know. If your grandfather is taught to think nk is best country the world,then your father,then you. It's brainwashing. They don't know anything else.
to them the free world is full of devils. This is what is instilled in them from birth.
2. The people who sneak in dramas,movies,music from south korea and see that it's not as bad as north korea says are in very few numbers. Most get caught and have their entire family
executed or try to flee and get caught and entire family executed,very few actually can leave.

 

[jd214]

Originally Posted by newmoanyuh

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Was this match televised over there?

If not, I can imagine the headlines tomorrow:
"DPR Korea defeat Portugal 7-0"
                   "Asian Rooney with a hattrick"

1.They don't have electricity. It's only turned on during special occasions like when foreigners visit.
2.You think they would actually have newspapers? with ideas that north korea is not the best country in the world?
3.They'll just turn it into propaganda and tell everyone that North Korea won,just like they won the last game.

Originally Posted by JD214

Dude is a joke I don't know how so many people listen to this bum @$+,
can they not see or something.

1. It's all they know. If your grandfather is taught to think nk is best country the world,then your father,then you. It's brainwashing. They don't know anything else.
to them the free world is full of devils. This is what is instilled at them from birth.
2. The people who sneak in dramas,movies,music from south korea and see that it's not as bad as north korea says are in very few numbers. Most get caught and have their entire family
executed or try to flee and get caught and entire family executed,very few actually can leave.

It's no joke guys.

I understand





Sad situation

 

[sn00pee]

if anything, that goalie is done for :smh. i could did a better job than him

 

[persiafly]

I really apologize for continuing this, and I had really decided to stop posting in here last night, but Tevez is pulling stunts that are really unbelievable, so please bear with me once on this one post NT.

Tevez, this is why I don't take you seriously, and why I may be hostile towards you:

You disagree for the sake of disagreement, even if disagreeing means going against your own statements. Almost anytime I state an opinion in here, you come in and disagree with it, and some of the arguments you make in support of your disagreements are just comical. This is why you sense hostility from me. You basically follow me around S&T to disagree with the stuff I say, which I would understand and tolerate if you were actually making good points and conceding points when you were wrong. But you don't. You just disagree, then hammer home the point further if someone disagrees with you in turn.

Exhibit A:

When England was struggling against Algeria, I wrote this:

England is struggling because they're playing cocky soccer. Instead of trying to work the ball into the box, they keep settling for 25 yard shots because they want to make the highlight reel.


You responded with this:

No.

People blamed Beckham in 98, Seaman in 02, Rooney, Ronaldo and 06...now its Robert Green but the same problem persists. THEY CANT SCORE GOALS. Why cant they score goals? BECAUSE THEY LACK TALENT.

This English team is crap. Plain and simple. No creativity, rigid formation = crap team. There is a reason why Premier League teams do so well in Europe. It has nothing to do with English players and everything to do with Premiership clubs bringing in the best talent in the world from other countries.


And then this...

PersiaFly, you arent looking too deep into this. It is not easy to get inside the box in this sport. It takes good technical ability to routinely get the ball inside the box and to create scoring opportunities. England are not taking long shots because they are cocky...they are taking long shots because they do not have the technical ability to break down the staunch Algerian defence, get inside the box and get quality shots on net. This is not a new problem...it's been a problem for them for decades.

You ever wonder why Brazilians are so gifted? Why Germans are such disciplined and smart players? Why Koreans are extremely energetic? Why Italians are such great defenders? It's because that's how they are nurtured. English players are taught from a young age to play a direct and team oriented game. They are usually organized and tactically disciplined but where they fall short is when the circumstances of the game force a player to have an individual moment of brilliance that gets the team the win. Exhibit A is right in front of your TV/computer screen right now.



In response, this I asked why England was able to score 9 goals in two matches against a Croatian team that most consider among the top 15-20 in the world if they are so inherently uncreative. My point was simply that, despite its lack of creativity (which I'm well aware of, have written about on my blog, and which led me to predict they'd be ousted in the Round of 16), England should be able to beat a weak team like Algeria if it was in the right frame of mind. This is where your inability to consider differing opinions or admit that you're wrong comes in. Instead of conceding the point, you come up with this:

The U.S., Algeria and Slovenia are better defensive teams than any of England's WCQ opponents (except for Ukraine). England racked up goals against the likes of Andorra, Belarus and Kazakhstan. Yes, they did crush Croatia twice but when you look at England's results over the last 12-years, those 2 results against Croatia seem to be anomalies. How often do England score that many goals in a match against good teams?


Who brought up England's record over the last 12 years? The entire time the discussion was about THIS England squad, and you had to reach back 12 years to make a point because you are unable to concede a point. No one said England had a long record of smashing good teams by 10 goals, all I said was that they had enough scoring talent and creativity to beat Algeria. What do 12 years of results have to do with that, when qualification results sufficiently prove the point? Well, if qualification results work against your argument, then you have to reach back 12 years to make a point, because you don't have the ability to concede.

This was especially funny to me because you had just predicted England to go to the semifinals of this very World Cup. If you're so aware of their inherent shortcomings, why did you think they'd make it to the semifinals of the World Cup? The fact that you ignored this point completely is another sign of your inability to concede a point or admit you're wrong. You just brush aside arguments that don't work for you.

C: England, US


Your prediction for the group.^ Why did you think this would happen if you're so certain that England lacks the creative ability to beat Algeria? My guess is that you don't really think that, but you jumped in to disagree without thinking too much, then your stubbornness prevented you from admitting the point. If I had come up to you before the tournament and said, "Hey Tevez, do you think England will beat Algeria?" You would have said yes. But you pretend otherwise now so that you can disagree, even though your own predictions go against you.

Which led you to say this, when I pointed out that Algeria was a rather weak defensive team that had conceded 3 goals to Malawi and 4 to Egypt, and there was no reason to believe that England was incapable of beating them given the number of goals England had scored in qualifying:

-Croatia conceded 13 goals in 10 WCQ matches.

-Algeria conceded 8 goals in 12 WCQ matches.

-US conceded 13 goals in 10 WCQ matches


This just put it over the top for me.

Did you really just compare qualification results in UEFA with those in Africa and CONCACAF? Would someone with your level of soccer knowledge really do this? There is no way Carlos Tevez would actually make this sort of comparison, right? Unless he's just too stubborn to admit that he's wrong, and will literally go to laughable lengths to prove a point.

Coming across this confirmed my suspicions:

One of the biggest disadvantages the US NT has is something that is completely out of their control...geography. Due to their location, they're forced to play against very weak opponents in CONCACRAP. The program would benefit greatly if they could play more matches against solid European/Africa/South American opponents however it's extremely difficult to do so in this day and age due to American players being scattered all over the place, the MLS and International club seasons happening at different times, WCQ and other tournies going on, etc. Getting American players to play club soccer in Europe simply isn't enough, the US team needs to consistently get these players together against some real competition.


So when it helps your argument in explaining why the US isn't as good as it could be, you point out how weak CONCACAF is, and how the competition is inferior to EUROPE. Then, when it helps your argument in stating that Algeria is a better defensive team than Croatia, you compare results across CONCACAF, Africa, and Europe, as if the competition levels are really comparable.

This, my friend, is why I don't take you seriously. You leap out of your seat to disagree whenever I state an opinion, then will literally make any available argument to help your case, regardless of whether or not it goes against your prior stated opinions, or whether it actually makes sense.

Now here's a prediction for you. Your response to this will be one of the following.

A) Completely ignore the post.
B) Make a sarcastic comment about how long it took me to put this together.
C) Pick out a few random statements in the post and find a way to disagree with them, rather than addressing the point as a whole.

That's your MO.

So, NT, those of you have read this, I hope you understand why I am annoyed by this constant disagreement. It's not really good-faith soccer discussion, it's someone attaching themselves to you like a leach and disagreeing with everything you say in some childish attempt to assert their supremacy on an internet message board.