* Offiical NBA Off-Season Thread: I'll give one of my damn kidney's for these Melo rumors to stop *

Chandler opting would be a good look for CHA.

Hopefully Felton walks too
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I have a feeling he'll be willing to take less money this time around though
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Bobcats would be in a complete mess, especially since Larry Brown was the only one to be able to control that team.


I figured he wants long term stability and some extra money before the new CBA comes. shrugs.




and why wouldnt the lakers go after tyson? hes a big defensive presence, and thats all they need. odoms been playing like hot garbage, he'll fit in a huge role instead of DJ and powell.
 
Originally Posted by PharelFor3

tyson will regret leaving that money on the table. hope he enjoys the midlevel
Tyson is going to get at least 8-9 for 4-5 years on the free market if he shows that he's healthy.

With the new CBA who's to say he's going to see those numbers again.

  
 
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[h1]Cavs Also In Touch With Mike Woodson[/h1]

Jun 12, 2010 11:10 PM EST

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Tom Izzo still has not decided whether or not he wants to accept the head coaching job of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

The Cavaliers have also talked to Mike Woodson about the position this week, according to sources.

Byron Scott has been widely considered the other leading candidate beyond Izzo.

Cleveland is also reportedly interested in Brian Shaw.


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[h1]Izzo's Staff Might Include Frank, Snow[/h1]

Jun 12, 2010 12:19 PM EST

If Tom Izzo agrees to become the next head coach of the Cavaliers, Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports writes that he'll likely fill out of staff quickly.

Izzo is expected to pursue former Nets coach Lawrence Frank and former Michigan State and Cleveland guard Eric Snow to coach under him.

The Cavaliers have also kept former coach Mike Brown's staff under contract and the team is expected to encourage Izzo to keep guys like Mike Malone and Chris Jent.


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[h1]Rivers Still Uncertain Regarding Future[/h1]

Jun 13, 2010 8:58 AM EST

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Celtics coach Doc Rivers still isn't committing to the team past this season and refused to give anything away when asked about his future on Saturday.

"There's always a reason with the kids, so I don't give a timetable, No. 1," said Rivers. "I just kind of get away. I know one thing you can't do is make a decision a week after a season. Whether you win or lose, you can't. You just can't. So you know, usually after Summer League is all over and a couple weeks after that, Danny [Ainge] and I sit down and just do what we do. So far as work, I'm still here. But the kids are always -- that's the issue each year, do you want to see -- I've got to see them play at some point."


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[h1]Larry Drew May Move Away From Johnson's Playing Style[/h1]

Jun 12, 2010 12:26 PM EST

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The Hawks named Larry Drew their new head coach on Friday and the decision may ultimately effect their ability to re-sign Joe Johnson this summer.

Michael Cunningham of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes that the Hawks "want to move away from an isolation-heavy offensive approach that was influenced by guard Joe Johnson's playing style."

The decision to move away from the style could be in case Johnson leaves as a free agent or to improve their postseason success.

A source close to Johnson told the Journal-Constitution that Johnson is open to returning, but that the team's new coach would have to sell him on relying on his teammates more.


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[h2]Wade Talks With Bosh, Johnson In L.A.[/h2]
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Jun 13, 2010 8:37 AM EST

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Heat guard Dwyane Wade recently spoke with fellow free agents Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson in Los Angeles, reports the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

Wade told the newspaper that he had dinner with Bosh and saw Johnson at a Brand Jordan event.

"I haven't started recruiting yet," he said.

"My friends are the guys that are in the league," Wade told the Sun-Sentinel. "Some of my closest friends in the NBA happen to be certain guys that are up in this free-agent market. Yeah, it's going to be like that. Like I said, I don't worry about it. I smile and I keep on going with my day.

"Me and Chris have been friends since we came into the NBA. We signed with the same agent. So we can't eat together? It's all good. We understand what's going to come about from anything that goes on. But, no worries, it's just friends eating dinner."

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[h2]Cavaliers Confirm Talks With Scott[/h2]
Jun 13, 2010 8:50 AM EST

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While the Cavaliers are still waiting to hear from Michigan State's Tom Izzo, they have confirmed talks with Byron Scott about their vacant head coaching position.

New Cleveland general manager Chris Grant and assistant Lance Blanks talked with Scott over the phone on Thursday.

Scott has coaching experience with the Nets and Hornets.

However, sources claim that assuming Scott is the immediate fallback option if Izzo passes on the job may be false because he has yet to meet with the Cavaliers face-to-face.

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[h2]MSG Could Give LeBron His Own Show[/h2]
Jun 12, 2010 11:31 AM EST

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MSG, the Knicks' cable network, could give LeBron James his own show if the superstar signs with the Knicks this summer.

"We've always tried to provide a way for our viewers to get to know the players in unique ways," MSG executive Dan Ronanye told the New York Post. "We're open to looking at any opportunities."

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[h2]Magic Hope To Retain Redick, Barnes[/h2]
Jun 12, 2010 10:04 AM EST

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Magic general manager Otis Smith said on Friday that the team will do their best to retain guard J.J. Redick and forward Matt Barnes.

Barnes has said that he'll opt out of his contract and Redick will be a restricted free agent.

Smith told the Orlando Sentinel that he will gauge the value of players based on the entire season, not simply the playoffs.

"I use the entire season, not just one thing or another," Smith said. "So I think the moves that I made are fine. I don’t think the moves I made had anything to do with anything. We didn't have as successful a postseason as you would have liked. We get better, come back."

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[h2]Hornets May Make Collison Available[/h2]
Jun 12, 2010 9:48 AM EST

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The Hornets are back in luxury tax territory heading into the 2010-11 season and Marc Stein of ESPN.com writes that they will likely be active on the trade market.

Rival teams will try to convince New Orleans to trade Chris Paul, but it's much more likely that they'll part with promising backup point guard Darren Collison.

Stein writes that the Hornets will likely ask any team interested in Collison to also take one of their cap-clogging contracts -- Emeka Okafor, James Posey or Peja Stojakovic.


The latest buzz has Ray Allen looking to bolt the Celtics when he becomes free on July 1 to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami. New York Daily News


Sources close to the Celtics' veteran shooting guard say that he's not exactly thrilled that Rajon Rondo is playing a more prominent role in the offense, and is looking at Miami as a potential destination. Bosh has long been rumored to be leaving Toronto to go to the Heat, which intends to re-sign Wade and has enough cap space to land Bosh with a maximum-salary deal. New York Daily News

From the Celtics' standpoint, they'd like to keep Allen, although he's looked every bit his age (he'll be 35 in July) during the Finals. When asked about Boston's "window of opportunity" closing for good in this title run, Rivers said, "I don't think it is. I think Kevin (Garnett) is going to be better next year, a year away from surgery. Hopefully, we sign Ray back - I think I can say that. If not, I just got fined." New York Daily News

Then again, the game is indoors at TD Garden. So perhaps Allen will look to rent a panel on the scoreboard or maybe pucker up to the parquet floor for the kiss cam. "I want to be here," said the reserve guard said who will become an unrestricted free agent this summer. "This is definitely where I want to be. Hands down ... My first negotiations are definitely going to be with the Celtics."


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That Ray Allen rumor seems like B.S. to me. If anyone was happy with Rondo's development, it would be him.

I think he'll either stay in Boston or go to Chicago.
 
Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I

That Ray Allen rumor seems like B.S. to me. If anyone was happy with Rondo's development, it would be him.

I think he'll stay in Boston
 
Tyson is going to get at least 8-9 for 4-5 years on the free market if he shows that he's healthy.
He hasn't been consistently productive or healthy in over two years.

Count me out of the "he's getting $40 million+" club.
 
Source: LeBron James '100 percent' behind Cleveland Cavaliers' bid to hire Tom Izzo


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- LeBron James may not be ready to commit to what he's doing in free agency, but he may be willing to make his opinion known on the Cavaliers' coaching search.

According to a high-level source, James would endorse the Cavs' hiring Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo.

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Cavs owner Dan Gilbert said last week that James is not involved in the search for a replacement for Mike Brown, but sources have indicated James approves of the highly-respected Izzo. James also said in an interview with Larry King that he doesn't want to be heavily involved with selecting his next coach.

But James "100 percent" would endorse Izzo's hiring, the source said.

Izzo, meanwhile, is still pondering the Cavs job. On Sunday, Izzo told several Michigan-based reporters via text messages that he was "still gathering" in regards to the Cavs' offer. Gathering facts and opinions, it is assumed. Perhaps even attempting to gather information from James' himself.

Lansing (Mich.) television station WLNS reported on Sunday that Izzo is waiting to speak directly with James, which the station reported had not happened as of Sunday night.

Nonetheless, James isn't believed to be giving anyone a hint to what his personal plans will be once he hits free agency on July 1. That seems to be the greatest issue Izzo is considering. Izzo has consulted numerous friends and acquaintances looking for an opinion of what James' intentions might be and what the Cavs may be able to do if they re-sign him or if they do not.

While he ponders and hopes to speak with James, though, Michigan State is trying to leverage its hometown edge. Several grassroots campaigns have been organized to appeal to Izzo to turn down the Cleveland offer.

A Web site has been formed to collect messages from fans and several groups have formed rallies and gatherings to make signs. There are now hundreds of signs supporting Izzo throughout East Lansing and the route from Izzo's home to the Breslin Center, the Spartans' arena, is littered with signs.

Izzo will likely have to drive past them on Monday when he's scheduled to host the start of a youth basketball camp that bears his name.

Though there has been an expectation that Izzo would make up his mind over the weekend, there were no indications on Sunday that Izzo planned an announcement on Monday.
 
[h3]Raptors Cleaning House?[/h3]
June, 14, 2010
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12:33

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By Chad Ford

The past few weeks I’ve been calling around to every team in the league gathering draft info. Out of all those conversations, one thing that is becoming clear: The Raptors have been the most aggressive team in the league this summer in seeking out all sorts of trades. At this point it’s conceivable that the team could end up trading three of its five starters this summer.

Toronto GM Bryan Colangelo, as we reported in May, is open to a sign-and-trade should Chris Bosh tell him he wants to sign somewhere else on July 1. Obviously the Raptors would like to keep Bosh, and, according to a Raptors source, they are attempting to clean house now to show him they can surround him with a more competitive team. The source told me that there’s been little movement on the Bosh front and that won’t change until they hear from him on what he wants to do.

Meanwhile, the Raptors are not just sitting around. Rather, Colangelo is shopping Hedo Turkoglu, Jose Calderon and Jarrett Jack with an eye toward making trades before July 1.
The same source told me that a Turkoglu trade was already in the works and could happen by the draft. While the source was confident something would happen, the source didn't disclose the potential destination(s). The Calderon and Jack discussions are moving more slowly, but over the past few days the Raptors have been pressing forward on those fronts as well.
At the same time, the Raptors appear to be closing in on a trade for an additional first-round pick. Colangelo has called every team with multiple picks looking for something in the 20s, according to sources. He’s offering cash (the team can pay up to $3 million for a pick) to any team that doesn’t want to make a three-year commitment to a late first rounder. A few teams, including the Thunder and Nets, have said no. But teams with multiple first-round picks or teams trying to save cash or a luxury tax hit are in Colangelo’s sights.

The team is also in a critical point in workouts. They had in Daniel Orton, Ekpe Udoh and Cole Aldrich in last week for workouts and will have in Hassan Whiteside and Solomon Alabi in early this week. There’s no question the team would like a center so that, if Bosh leaves, head coach Jay Triano can move Andrea Bargnani to his more natural position at the four.

However, the Raptors believe that they’ll get a big in any sign-and-trade for Bosh, so team need isn’t limiting their options in the draft right now. Later this week the Raptors will look at potential replacements for all both positions. They’ll have Avery Bradley, Eric Bledsoe, Paul George and Xavier Henry in for a workouts. All four players are in the mix at 13 Raptors sources say with Bradley having the slight edge at the moment.
 
[h1]LeBron James respects coach Tom Izzo but he will not get involved in his possible hire[/h1][h5]Published: Monday, June 14, 2010, 12:20 PM     Updated: Monday, June 14, 2010, 12:33 PM[/h5]
Brian Windhorst, The Plain Dealer

 
LeBron James has respect for Michigan State coach Tom Izzo but he will continue with his plan not to get involved in the Cavaliers' coaching search, a source said on Monday.

A source told The Plan Dealer on Sunday that James would support the Cavs' hiring of Izzo. After hosting him on a visit last Thursday, the Cavs are waiting on an answer on the job offer from Izzo. So, too, is James. But he is doing so from afar.

All along, James has not planned to speak to coaching candidates or lobby for certain coaches to replace Mike Brown. James, according to a source, has not spoken with Izzo about the job or his future and currently has no plans to do so.

He intends to become a free agent on July 1 and does not plan on committing to anything until after he explores his free agent options.

James is not expected to make any sort of promise or guarantee that he'll re-sign with the Cavs no matter who the team ends up hiring.

Izzo did not speak to media members Monday morning when he arrived at Michigan State for the start of his annual youth basketball camp. He declined to discuss the Cavs when a camper asked him a question about it during his address to the group.
 
Updated: June 14, 2010, 12:00 PM ET

[h1]What Nets have to offer LeBron[/h1]

By Chad Ford
ESPN.com



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Nathaniel S. Butler/NBAE/Getty ImagesLeBron may be lining up alongside T-Will each game if a new owner and stadium can draw James in.
In recent weeks we've wrestled with the biggest question in sports: Where will LeBron James land this summer?

In particular, I've detailed how the New York Knicks and Chicago Bulls will make their respective pitches to LeBron when July 1 arrives, provided LBJ chooses to opt out of his contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers and look around at his options.

Today we take a look at the team across the Hudson River from the Knicks, the New Jersey Nets. And, as in the case of the Knicks, a well-placed source familiar with the Nets' plans has provided insight into how the team will pursue LeBron.

Like the Knicks, the Nets have torn down their team to create the opportunity to acquire James and/or another top-tier free agent. In the past 2½ years, New Jersey has traded away Jason Kidd, Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson for young assets and expiring contracts to clear salary space (and ensure high draft picks).

Now that they have the cap room to pursue a top free agent, how will the Nets try to lure LeBron to New Jersey?

When new owner Mikhail Prokhorov, GM Rod Thorn and new head coach Avery Johnson make their pitch to LeBron and his team of advisors, here are their talking points, according to our source:
[h3]1. "The Nets are about to go big-time."[/h3]
After years of toiling in the shadow of the Knicks -- at least in the eyes of local fans -- the Nets are moving closer to Gotham's center stage thanks to Prokhorov, their new gazillionaire owner, and a move to Brooklyn, expected to happen in two years.

Prokhorov could be especially appealing to LeBron. He is a young, hip entrepreneur who eats, drinks and breathes basketball. He built a Euroleague champion in Moscow and has made it clear that he'll spare no expense to turn the Nets into winners.

Not only that, but Prokhorov can sell LeBron on a plan to increase his standing as a "global icon," as James once labeled his ambitions.

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Larry Busacca/Getty Images for New Jersey NetsOwners don't get much more high-profile than Mikhail Prokhorov and longtime LeBron pal Jay-Z.

My source explained why Prokhorov might appeal to LeBron:

"The Nets have an owner with global reach and unlimited resources. They're starting construction on a new state-of-the-art arena in Brooklyn.

"New York fans are hungry for a winner, and I think the Nets could easily eclipse the Knicks with LeBron. I think to be a part of it, to be the face of it, will be very appealing to LeBron.

"Prokhorov has spent much of his life among the most elite people in the world. He understands today's athletes and has the power to help them broaden their reach globally. Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods weren't just American sports heroes. They were global icons. I think Prokhorov can do that for LeBron in a way no other owner can."

Of course, it's well-known that the Nets' ownership group has another high-profile member: Jay-Z, a friend and mentor to LeBron, and arguably the most powerful and influential person in the hip-hop industry. Just as Prokhorov can appeal to LeBron's business ambitions, Jay-Z can reach LeBron on a level that few others could, according to my source. In short, LeBron listens to Jay-Z.

[h3]2. "We have a strong young supporting cast."[/h3]
While much is being made of the supporting cast LeBron would join if he bolted to the Bulls or Los Angeles Clippers, the Nets believe they can offer LeBron an intriguing set of teammates, according to my source.

Start with big man Brook Lopez.

"Every wing man elevates his game when he plays with a great big man, and Lopez is really turning into one," the source said. "There isn't another team in free agency that can offer LeBron a better big to play with than the Nets."

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Lopez, who just turned 22, had an excellent sophomore season, averaging 18.8 points, 8.6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks in 37 minutes per game for the Nets in 2009-10. He regularly drew a double-team in the paint and could open things up for LeBron. Especially when compared to big men Eddy Curry (Knicks), Joakim Noah (Bulls) and Anderson Varejao (Cavaliers), Lopez seems to have a very high ceiling.

By the time they talk to LeBron, the Nets will have another talented young player on board. Whether they use the No. 3 pick in the June 24 NBA draft on Evan Turner, Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins, they'll be able to tout their new player as another potential star.

In addition, the Nets have other young assets -- particularly Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, Yi Jianlian and Terrence Williams. But it's possible that rather than filling out the supporting cast per se, these players, in some combination, could be traded away for the cap space needed to sign another major free agent, such as Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire or Carlos Boozer, especially if that's what it takes to get LeBron to sign. Or the Nets could package some of those players in a direct trade for one of the other top free agents.

"The Nets have a lot of flexibility because they don't have any bad contracts on the books," the source said. "Even if you're not a Harris fan or a Yi fan, there are plenty of GMs who are. The Nets will be able to move those players into other slots to clear more room if they need to."

How much more space would the Nets need to clear to be far enough under to lure a second maximum-salary free agent to New Jersey? Currently they are projected to have around $27 million in cap room this summer, enough to get one max free agent and have about $10 million to spend. To land two max free agents, they would need to drop another $6-7 million off their books. Trading Harris, for example, to a team with cap space would do the trick.

In other words, the source says, the Nets have the makings of a strong supporting cast for LeBron -- and the ability to make it even better.

[h3]3. "Avery Johnson is a winner."[/h3]
Last week's hiring of Avery Johnson as the Nets' new coach raised one big question around the league: Will Johnson be able to attract a top-tier free agent like LeBron?

The question arises in part from the way things unraveled for Johnson in his first head-coaching gig, in Dallas. After the Mavericks' meltdown in the 2006 Finals, they lost in a shocking first-round series versus the Golden State Warriors, and followed that with another first-round elimination in 2008, spelling the end for Johnson.

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Along the way, Johnson developed a rep as a no-nonsense coach who wasn't afraid to speak his mind -- but also as a control freak who micromanaged both young players and veterans. Toward the end of his tenure with the Mavericks, veterans including the likes of Kidd were less than thrilled with his leadership.

Still, Johnson is widely respected in the league. During his tenure in Dallas, he won NBA Coach of the Year honors and accumulated a 194-70 record, a .735 winning percentage which remains the best in NBA history.

But perhaps most importantly to LeBron, Johnson is a former player. Several sources have told ESPN.com that having a former NBA player as a head coach is important to James. Johnson won a championship ring with the San Antonio Spurs in 1999, hitting a series-clinching jumper, and played in the league for more than a decade, earning the nickname "The Little General" for his take-charge style. While he was never a star, Johnson played and played well at the highest level.

The source justified the team's choice: "The Nets needed a coach that had good teaching skills, leadership skills and will understand the fundamental X's and O's of the game. The Nets have been a poor defensive team. They felt like ultimately it's a defensive mindset that wins championships.

"I think LeBron knows that. It didn't work out with Mike Brown [in Cleveland], but Avery's a different guy.

"Ultimately I think players crave discipline. If LeBron wants to be on a team with young players, he needs a coach who can deliver that. If he wants to be on a team with seasoned veterans, then he can always go back to Cleveland. But it didn't work there. I think he's going to have to be open to new ideas. "

While the Nets have no way of knowing for sure whether LeBron is OK with Johnson, you can bet they did their homework to make sure he wasn't against the signing.

[h3]4. "Brooklyn is your future home."[/h3]
When Prokhorov and Jay-Z talk to LeBron, they won't just sell themselves. They'll also sell Brooklyn, where the Nets are eventually headed.

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"I keep hearing how the Knicks are a better destination than the Nets because the Knicks are at Madison Square Garden and the Nets will be in Brooklyn," the source said. "I don't think so. The new arena is going to be six minutes from Wall Street and 20 minutes from midtown via train. That's basically the same trip it takes to get to Madison Square Garden.

"The fans in Brooklyn are passionate. They're hungry for a winner. LeBron would be the king of New York if he plays there."

And if New York City is LeBron's chosen destination, Brooklyn offers access to much the same marketing opportunities, business possibilities and cultural life as Manhattan, as the Nets will point out. So while they may not have the same history and cachet as the Knicks, the Nets will offer a similar future, according to the source.

New Jersey does not appear to be the front-runner for LeBron's services. But if he is willing to listen to the Nets explain what his future could look like, he will probably like what he hears.
 
[h3]After Wall, nothing is certain [/h3]
June, 14, 2010
Jun 14

12:53

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By Chad Ford

The draft is now only a week and a half away and here's all we know for sure -- John Wall will be the No. 1 pick on June 24. We've been writing for weeks that the Washington Wizards' taking a Wall with the No. 1 was a done deal. Multiple team sources, off the record of course, have been telling us for weeks Wall is their man.

Now, it looks even more official. The Washington Post reported over the weekend that Evan Turner wouldn't even be working out for the Wizards and was conceding the No. 1 spot to him. Interesting considering that Wall has a workout.

Why don't the Wizards just go ahead and end the ruse and start plastering Wall posters all over Verizon Center? The league actually strongly discourages teams from disclosing their picks before the draft, so don't expect the Wiz to make it official, but there is no mystery at No. 1.
[h3]Here comes the intrigue[/h3]
Things are less cut and dry at the No. 2 pick. Turner is in for his one and only workout with the Philadelphia 76ers on Thursday. However, the Sixers aren't stopping there. Turner will be followed a day later by DeMarcus Cousins and Derrick Favors and then on Saturday Wesley Johnson will be in the house. All of the workouts leads to the inevitable question: "Why are they working out those guys if Turner is a sure thing?"

While Sixers' sources continue to insist that Turner is GM Ed Stefanski's man and will be taken No. 2, there are other sources that insist that head coach Doug Collins has a say in the pick and he prefers to land a big -- preferably Favors.

Sources also continue to insist that the Sixers are open to a trade if they can get the right combination of talent and cap relief. To get the most value for the pick, the team needs to project that it's taking Turner at No. 2.

Stefanski has said the team isn't shopping the pick, but if you read what he says closely, it's mostly semantics. "We're listening to anybody who calls, but we have not shopped the No. 2 pick whatsoever," Stefanski said. "We don't shut our phones off, but it would take a blockbuster for us to consider moving the pick."

Yes, the Sixers aren't giving the second pick away and don't need to shop it. But they aren't wedded to it the way the Wizards are wedded to Wall. You hear zero talk around the league about the Wizards being open to trading No. 1.
[h3]Jersey's boys[/h3]
Things aren't much clearer in New Jersey at the moment. The New Jersey Nets would take Turner if he is on the board. If he isn't? It's a standoff between Favors and Cousins. The team won't be getting Turner for a workout, but they'll have Favors and Cousins going head-to-head June 21.

The Nets do have a bit of a dilemma at No. 3 if it's Favors and Cousins on the board. I think from a talent standpoint, Cousins has the edge. However, the team will pursue Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire and Carlos Boozer via free agency. You don't draft Cousins to play him 10 minutes a night. He's the most NBA-ready big man in the draft. However, Favors is raw and you could bring him along more slowly.

If the Nets are confident they will be getting Bosh, Stoudemire or Boozer, it might make sense for them to swap picks with a team like the Pistons. They could get another critical piece of the puzzle at the 3 and still have a high pick to draft a backup big.
[h3]Movin' on up?[/h3]
The Minnesota Timberwolves are exploring ways of moving up to No. 2 to get their hands on Turner. However, if they stay at No. 4, and Turner and Favors are off the board, I think you can expect to hear Johnson's name called here. We've had Johnson at No. 4 in the mock draft since May and think he's a lock to go here if Turner and Favors are off the board.

In fact, Cousins won't even come in to work out with the team, his agent John Greig told me. However Greig, along with a league source, disputes a report that Cousins wasn't invited to Minnesota. Greig says that he believes Minnesota is already locked into Johnson at No. 4 and wants to keep Cousins focused on places he could realistically go.
[h3]Kings for a day[/h3]
The Sacramento Kings had a series of big workouts last week. The team had Greg Monroe in June 6. Cole Aldrich, Daniel Orton, Ekpe Udoh, Hassan Whiteside and Ryan Richards on June 8. And it was topped off on Saturday when Favors and Cousins came in to work out.

Monroe worked out by himself and Favors and Cousins didn't actually become the heavyweight bout we thought it would be. The players didn't actually play one-on-one against each other per a request from Favors' agent. Despite the less than ideal workout circumstances, the Kings got a chance to see most of the players they are seriously considering at No. 5.

After speaking with a source on Saturday evening, the following seems clear:

1. Ideally the Kings would like a big.
2. GM Geoff Petrie would prefer a player who, like Tyreke Evans, is capable of making an immediate impact in Sacramento.
3. The Kings don't think Favors will be there at No. 5. If he's not, it looks like Johnson, Monroe and Cousins are battling it out for the spot.

Most likely, Johnson won't be there at No. 5. As we've been reporting since our first mock draft in May, the Wolves are high on Johnson and less so on Cousins.

Sources say Petrie has been high on Monroe all year and before the Cousins workout, felt that Monroe was the safer pick. However, Cousins' size and superior talent have put him seriously in the mix at No. 5.

Cousins had a phenomenal workout in Sacramento on Saturday according to multiple sources. He took around 200 shots, all of which the Kings logged, and he hit 78 percent of them -- the best clip they've had in the 40 players who've come into town.

Cousins also is getting into better shape. He's down to 13 percent body fat from the 16.4 percent number he logged in Chicago. He still needs to drop another 10 pounds, but he's getting there. At this point it looks like the team is split between two players. But now Cousins has two legs up on Monroe. Not only did Cousins have a better season, he also had a better workout.

Also don't be surprised if the Kings end up trading the pick for a veteran who can help the team improve immediately. With young players like Evans, Omri Casspi, Spencer Hawes and Donte Greene already on team, the Kings would like to add some experience.
[h3]"Into the Great Wide Open"[/h3]
After the Kings select at No. 5, the draft opens up pretty wide.

With the team for sale, Don Nelson in limbo and Larry Reilly apparently sending lots of mixed signals, it's hard to find anyone with a good handle on what's going to happen with the Golden State Warriors.

If Cousins slides, he would seem like a no-brainer. The team is also very high on Johnson, should he fall. But I've also heard Al-Farouq Aminu, Xavier Henry, Patrick Patterson and Monroe mentioned here.

The Pistons, meanwhile, are playing a wait-and-see game. They've explored trading up to get their hands on Cousins or Favors, but nothing seems to be happening right now.

The Clippers and Pacers are also exploring all sorts of options including moving up, moving back and even moving out of the draft entirely.

The Jazz, at No. 9, are hoping Monroe slides. If he doesn't, they like both Luke Babbitt and Henry.
[h3]Late-round buzz[/h3]
The Nets sponsored workouts last week with a number of first-round bubble players and second-round picks. Representatives from 23 teams showed up, but the quality of talent at the workouts couldn't keep all of them for the entire three days.

While no one dramatically improved his draft stock, a few players seemed to have helped themselves a bit according to NBA execs and scouts that were in the gym. Here's a look at who got some buzz, both good and bad.

Dexter Pittman
Pittman has always been a favorite of GMs. He has a ton of talent, soft hands and is a pretty good athlete. The question has always been his conditioning. In New Jersey, he drew repeated praise for how hard he worked and that he finished the workout. I get the sense that GMs want to find a way to take this guy. If they get him in the right conditioning program he could be a monster down the road.

Jon Scheyer
Scheyer had missed the past few weeks (including the draft combine) battling mono. So, despite being a four-year senior, he was a fresh face for many NBA GMs on the workout circuit. He didn't disappoint. Scheyer, unsurprisingly, shot the lights out and showed to be a better athlete than he's given credit for. I still doubt that he'll crack the first round, but there are enough GMs that like him that I think he'll hear his name called somewhere in the second round.

Darington Hobson
Hobson wasn't loved by everyone there, but a number of NBA GMs seem to think he could be an unusual player in the league. An Internet report over the weekend claiming Hobson had multiple promises in the first round is not true according to his agent Michael Hodges. But Hobson does have a real shot at the first round if he finds the right team.

Ben Uzoh
The Tulsa combo guard didn't get an invite to the combine, but he has played well in workouts and repeated that performance in the New Jersey workout. Said one NBA exec at the workouts, "He's got the athleticism to make it and I think he's got some real toughness to him. He's very intriguing as a second-round pick."

Sherron Collins
Collins has been battling injuries to his groin and his hand since the combine. That's limited what he can do, and as a result he seems to have fallen badly out of shape. Collins weighed 217 pounds at the combine, which is already a lot for a player that doesn't crack 6-feet. But in New Jersey he weighed a whopping 229. He gained 12 pounds in the course of under three weeks. Collins struggled with weight issues his whole college career and it's going to hurt his draft stock. Every GM in the league thinks he has talent, but all of them are concerned he'll lack the discipline to keep himself in the shape he needs to excel in the league. If he were 6-10 like Pittman, I think GMs would look the other way. But at 5-10, I'm not sure.

Stanley Robinson
We chronicled in May how nerves sometimes get the best of Robinson. That's been a recurring theme in workouts. While teams love his physical tools, it sounds like Robinson has been struggling with his nerves and his jump shot. It may not be fatal to his draft stock, given his explosive athletic ability and the fact that he's a very good kid and a hard worker. But he's yet to really help himself either.
[h3]The injury bug[/h3]
It's that time of year when players doing multiple workouts a week start getting injured. The latest to fall was Avery Bradley. Bradley sprained his left ankle in a workout in Oklahoma City on Sunday, according to his agent, Mitch Butler.

Bradley was doing a 3-on-3 drill and he was going up for an offensive rebound and he stepped on a player's foot coming down. X-Rays and an MRI given by the Thunder were negative. While the sprain is considered mild to a soft medium, the injury was bad enough that it's ending Bradley's workouts.

Butler indicated that they believe the ankle will be healed in time for the NBA's summer league.

The Pacers and Raptors had been looking at Bradley as a potential lottery pick. Several other teams in the first round including the Heat and Thunder were also giving him a serious look. It's unclear how the injury will ultimately affect his draft stock, though the timing couldn't be worse. Bradley was scheduled to come in and do a second workout with the Raptors (who may have been the team highest on him) this week.

Bradley had already worked out for the Pistons, Raptors, Heat, Celtics, Pacers, Clippers, Jazz, Thunder and Rockets. The injury will force him to miss workouts with the Grizzlies, Bucks, Spurs and Bulls, in addition to that second workout with Raptors.
[h3]International deadline[/h3]
Finally, the deadline to withdraw from the draft is at 5 p.m. on Monday. The NCAA set a date of May 8 for college underclassmen, so this deadline really only applies to international players.

Here's a list of international players who have declared for the draft:

Pablo Aguilar, SF, Spain
Andrew Albicy, PG, France
Robin Benzing, F, Germany
Bojan Bogdanovic, F, Serbia
Stefan Bircevic, Serbia
Sarra Camara, France
Antoine Diot, G, France
Bangaly Fofana, France
Miralem Halilovic, Bosnia
Thomas Heurtel, France
Edwin Jackson, G, France
Dusan Korac, Montenegro
Mindaugas Kuzminskas, F, Lithuania
Luc Louves, SF, France
Uros Lukovic, Serbia
Donatas Motiejunas, F, Lithuania
Tomasz Nowakowski, PF, Poland
Tibor Pleiss, C, Germany
Xavier Rabaseda, Spain
Fernando Raposo, PF, France
Ryan Richards, F/C, England
Kevin Seraphin, PF, France
Semen Shashkov, SF, Russia

Most of these players will withdraw from the draft. Donatas Motiejunas -- the only international player ranked as a potential lottery pick -- announced several weeks ago that he'd withdraw.

Two key international players -- big man Kevin Seraphin and point guard Thomas Heurtel -- will remain in the draft their agent, Bouna N'diaye, told ESPN.com.

Seraphin is considered a mid- to late-first-round pick by most GMs. A knee injury limited his ability to work out, but several teams in the 20s including the Thunder, Blazers, Wolves and Grizzlies are looking at him. Heurtel is a point guard who recently walked away with MVP honors at the Adidas Eurocamp. Heurtel is projected as a potential second-round pick.

Two of N'diaye's other clients, Antoine Diot and Fernando Raposo will withdraw from the draft.

English big man Ryan Richards is also staying in the draft according to his agent, Herb Rudoy. The 19-year-old took the combine by storm with his athletic ability at his size. He's had a series of strong workouts and Rudoy thinks he has a good shot of sliding into the first round. However Rudoy stressed that Richards did not have a first-round guarantee. So why stay in the draft? "He wants to play in the NBA next year," Rudoy told ESPN.com. "He's not a guy that a team stashes over in Europe. I think for him to take the next step as a player, he needs to come over now."

Teams love his size and athleticism, but they worry about his relative lack of game experience since he hasn't played at a high level in Europe.

Several other key players were still on the fence as of late Sunday night, including Robin Benzig and Tibor Pleiss. Pleiss is a German big man who has caught the attention of a few teams. He needs to add strength and isn't ready to come to the NBA now, but he could be a good prospect to stash overseas for a few years.

Benzig was leaning toward withdrawing from the draft after the Eurocamp but if he stays in the draft, he has the type of size and shooting ability at the small forward position to intrigue someone in the late first or early second.
 
My brother from another mother is having trouble posting on NT but he sends his regards and the following:



CP1708 wrote:


Mike, I don’t see how the Celts are clowns.  KG, Perk, Ray Allen, PP, Rondo, Sheed, Tony Allen haven’t been out there blowin out birthday candles or takin fake pics or practicin 75 different ways to shake hands.  They are jumpin up and down celebratin wins in a finals series, not regular season wins in Memphis in January.  That ain’t clown, that’s emotion.  Little drool is alright.  Lol  

My Laker fans fallin all over themselves with sadness and fear.  SMH.  It’s a series…..there’s ups and downs.  Based on HC, it’s SUPPOSED to be 3-2 heading back to LA, no matter how it got there.  We protect our homecourt, and we’re fine.  If we don’t, then we don’t deserve to be champs.  That simple.  Just stay the course.  Got people still cryin for Ariza, askin about getting Hedo, getting rid of Bynum, Odom, Artest, Fisher, Farmar, etc etc etc.  LOL   Come on guys.  Can we finish out the damn series first?  Sheesh, no wonder people hate Laker fans.  We all over the place.  Win a game and we can beat the Globetrotters, lose a game and it’s time to get 11 new players.  SMDH  That ain’t my style. 

Maybe I shoulda @#$% all over Boston from the beginning.  I called the Spurs dead before Christmas, but I was always nice to the Celts and said I believed they would put it together at the end, even though they are just as old as the Spurs.  Damn it, I shoulda talked more crap about them.  lololol

I seen Do Be lookin for me, no I ain’t hidin, just CPU issues at work.  Soon as it’s fixed I’ll be in to face the music if that’s what’s needed, but hopefully I’ll be able to check in and cheer on in our celebration.  Just don’t look so good right now.  I’ll try to check in soon as possible, but we all sorts of locked up.  My damn fantasy teams sufferin, no twitter, no ESPN, nothin.  They done pulled the plug on me out here.  lolololol 

People try to tell me all the time that Pau is the MVP of the Lakers.   Those senses of humor they got are mad funny.  Serious.  Those people need to stop watching basketball, maybe watch one of them 0-0 soccer “games’ I keep hearin about, more their speed I think.  Anyone unsure, just go check Pau in close out type road games lately.  He isn’t really “doin it
 
Originally Posted by h3at23


[h3]Raptors Cleaning House?[/h3]
June, 14, 2010
Jun 14

12:33

AM ET

By Chad Ford

The past few weeks I’ve been calling around to every team in the league gathering draft info. Out of all those conversations, one thing that is becoming clear: The Raptors have been the most aggressive team in the league this summer in seeking out all sorts of trades. At this point it’s conceivable that the team could end up trading three of its five starters this summer.

Toronto GM Bryan Colangelo, as we reported in May, is open to a sign-and-trade should Chris Bosh tell him he wants to sign somewhere else on July 1. Obviously the Raptors would like to keep Bosh, and, according to a Raptors source, they are attempting to clean house now to show him they can surround him with a more competitive team. The source told me that there’s been little movement on the Bosh front and that won’t change until they hear from him on what he wants to do.

Meanwhile, the Raptors are not just sitting around. Rather, Colangelo is shopping Hedo Turkoglu, Jose Calderon and Jarrett Jack with an eye toward making trades before July 1.
The same source told me that a Turkoglu trade was already in the works and could happen by the draft. While the source was confident something would happen, the source didn't disclose the potential destination(s). The Calderon and Jack discussions are moving more slowly, but over the past few days the Raptors have been pressing forward on those fronts as well.
At the same time, the Raptors appear to be closing in on a trade for an additional first-round pick. Colangelo has called every team with multiple picks looking for something in the 20s, according to sources. He’s offering cash (the team can pay up to $3 million for a pick) to any team that doesn’t want to make a three-year commitment to a late first rounder. A few teams, including the Thunder and Nets, have said no. But teams with multiple first-round picks or teams trying to save cash or a luxury tax hit are in Colangelo’s sights.

The team is also in a critical point in workouts. They had in Daniel Orton, Ekpe Udoh and Cole Aldrich in last week for workouts and will have in Hassan Whiteside and Solomon Alabi in early this week. There’s no question the team would like a center so that, if Bosh leaves, head coach Jay Triano can move Andrea Bargnani to his more natural position at the four.

However, the Raptors believe that they’ll get a big in any sign-and-trade for Bosh, so team need isn’t limiting their options in the draft right now. Later this week the Raptors will look at potential replacements for all both positions. They’ll have Avery Bradley, Eric Bledsoe, Paul George and Xavier Henry in for a workouts. All four players are in the mix at 13 Raptors sources say with Bradley having the slight edge at the moment.

I have no confidence in Colangelo whatsoever. He's been in charge of the team for 4-seasons now, this will be his 4th major overhaul of a team he's failed to get out of the first round of the playoffs. He has one year left on his contract which means he's probably going to sacrifice the future for some short-term band-aid fixes in order for the team to make the playoffs in 2011 and so he can get a big fat contract extension. #*#% Colangelo.
 
Originally Posted by Bigmike23

the wizards may go after Rudy gay?
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my boy inmymind would kill him before he even signed

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Why everybody want Rudy Gay if he isn't really that good?
  
 
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