Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[duba169]

no respect

that scene was awesome

what did he specifically change from the script

 

[duba169]

no respect

that scene was awesome

what did he specifically change from the script

 

[koolbarbone]

In a nutshell:

If it was a Tarantino film then audiences would have really found Mickey and Mallory cool. Instead, they are portrayed as deranged offshoots of the 90s media culture.

 

[venom lyrix]

John Travolta agrees to play John Gotti - http://bit.ly/h6hVHk

 

[venom lyrix]

John Travolta agrees to play John Gotti - http://bit.ly/h6hVHk

 

[koolbarbone]

In a nutshell:

If it was a Tarantino film then audiences would have really found Mickey and Mallory cool. Instead, they are portrayed as deranged offshoots of the 90s media culture.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Originally Posted by koolbarbone

In a nutshell:

If it was a Tarantino film then audiences would have really found Mickey and Mallory cool. Instead, they are portrayed as deranged offshoots of the 90s media culture.

Basically, they don't have the subtle humanizing characteristics that most Tarantino characters have (Marcellus Wallace's wife's corny little joke, Mr. Pink's Madonna story, etc.).

Got this from Wiki and it pretty much sums up what I couldn't exactly say:

Natural Born Killers was based upon a screenplay written by Quentin Tarantino, in which a married couple suddenly decides to go on a killing spree. Tarantino had sold an option for his script to producers Jane Hamsher and Don Murphy for $10,000 after he had tried, and failed, to direct it himself for $500,000.[sup][3][/sup] Hamsher and Murphy subsequently sold the screenplay to Warner Bros. Around the same time, Oliver Stone was made aware of the script. He was keen to find something more straightforward than his previous production, Heaven & Earth; a difficult shoot which had left him exhausted, and he felt that Natural Born Killers could be what he was looking for.[sup][4][/sup]

Director Oliver Stone, associate producer Richard Rutowski, and writer David Veloz rewrote the script, keeping much of the dialogue but changing the focus of the film from journalist Wayne Gale (Robert Downey, Jr.) to Mickey and Mallory. Indeed, the script was changed so much that as per WGA rules, Tarantino was credited for the film's story only. In a 1993 interview, Tarantino stated that he no longer held any animosity towards Stone, and that he wished the film well;

"It's not going to be my movie, it's going to be Oliver Stone's, and God bless him. I hope he does a good job with it. If I wasn't emotionally attached to it, I'm sure I would find it very interesting. If you like my stuff, you might not like this movie. But if you like his stuff, you're probably going to love it. It might be the best thing he's ever done, but not because of anything to do with me. [...] I actually can't wait to see it, to tell you the truth."[sup][5][/sup]

Initially, when producers Jane Hamsher and Don Murphy had first brought the script to Stone's attention, he had seen it as an action movie; "something Arnold Schwarzenegger would be proud of."[sup][6][/sup] As the project developed however, incidents such as the O.J. Simpson case, the Menendez brothers case, the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan incident, the Rodney King incident and the Federal assault of the Branch Davidian sect all took place. Stone came to feel that the media was heavily involved in the outcome of all of these cases, and that the media had become an all-pervasive entity which marketed violence and suffering for the good of ratings. As such, he changed the tone of the movie from one of simple action to a satirical critique of the media in general.[sup][4][/sup]
The whole satirical critique would've been so much better if Robert Downey Jr. played more of a role throughout the film, than just the last act.

John Travolta agrees to play John Gotti - http://bit.ly/h6hVHk


http://bit.ly/h6hVHk
Guess karma really does exist.

And Dub, I meant the whole interview thing with Woody and Robert Downey Jr. The escape was pretty badass, I'll give them that.
Edit: Wait, I think you're talking about the Dangerfield scene, took me a minute to get the "no respect"

Speaking of Wood and Downey, anybody watch A Scanner Darkly? Just watched it before and that is one trippy #!+ movie.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Originally Posted by koolbarbone

In a nutshell:

If it was a Tarantino film then audiences would have really found Mickey and Mallory cool. Instead, they are portrayed as deranged offshoots of the 90s media culture.

Basically, they don't have the subtle humanizing characteristics that most Tarantino characters have (Marcellus Wallace's wife's corny little joke, Mr. Pink's Madonna story, etc.).

Got this from Wiki and it pretty much sums up what I couldn't exactly say:

Natural Born Killers was based upon a screenplay written by Quentin Tarantino, in which a married couple suddenly decides to go on a killing spree. Tarantino had sold an option for his script to producers Jane Hamsher and Don Murphy for $10,000 after he had tried, and failed, to direct it himself for $500,000.[sup][3][/sup] Hamsher and Murphy subsequently sold the screenplay to Warner Bros. Around the same time, Oliver Stone was made aware of the script. He was keen to find something more straightforward than his previous production, Heaven & Earth; a difficult shoot which had left him exhausted, and he felt that Natural Born Killers could be what he was looking for.[sup][4][/sup]

Director Oliver Stone, associate producer Richard Rutowski, and writer David Veloz rewrote the script, keeping much of the dialogue but changing the focus of the film from journalist Wayne Gale (Robert Downey, Jr.) to Mickey and Mallory. Indeed, the script was changed so much that as per WGA rules, Tarantino was credited for the film's story only. In a 1993 interview, Tarantino stated that he no longer held any animosity towards Stone, and that he wished the film well;

"It's not going to be my movie, it's going to be Oliver Stone's, and God bless him. I hope he does a good job with it. If I wasn't emotionally attached to it, I'm sure I would find it very interesting. If you like my stuff, you might not like this movie. But if you like his stuff, you're probably going to love it. It might be the best thing he's ever done, but not because of anything to do with me. [...] I actually can't wait to see it, to tell you the truth."[sup][5][/sup]

Initially, when producers Jane Hamsher and Don Murphy had first brought the script to Stone's attention, he had seen it as an action movie; "something Arnold Schwarzenegger would be proud of."[sup][6][/sup] As the project developed however, incidents such as the O.J. Simpson case, the Menendez brothers case, the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan incident, the Rodney King incident and the Federal assault of the Branch Davidian sect all took place. Stone came to feel that the media was heavily involved in the outcome of all of these cases, and that the media had become an all-pervasive entity which marketed violence and suffering for the good of ratings. As such, he changed the tone of the movie from one of simple action to a satirical critique of the media in general.[sup][4][/sup]
The whole satirical critique would've been so much better if Robert Downey Jr. played more of a role throughout the film, than just the last act.

John Travolta agrees to play John Gotti - http://bit.ly/h6hVHk


http://bit.ly/h6hVHk
Guess karma really does exist.

And Dub, I meant the whole interview thing with Woody and Robert Downey Jr. The escape was pretty badass, I'll give them that.
Edit: Wait, I think you're talking about the Dangerfield scene, took me a minute to get the "no respect"

Speaking of Wood and Downey, anybody watch A Scanner Darkly? Just watched it before and that is one trippy #!+ movie.

 

[jrp44]

Sports-
Noskey- The Sandlot- 3
Venom- Rudy- 2
JRS- Happy Gilmore- 1
Drama-
Noskey- Goodfellas- 3
CP- Shawshank- 2
JRS- American Beauty-1
Comedy-
CP- American Pie- 3
Noskey- The Big Lebowski 2
Mr.O- Lion King 1
Horror/Thriller-
Mr.O- Fight Club- 3
JRS- Silence of the Lambs- 2
ill- Sixth Sense- 1
Crime-
Venom- Casino- 3
Ill- Pulp Fiction- 2
Dub- Carlito's Way- 1
Sci-Fi-
Dub- T2- 3
Kool- Matrix- 2
Dirk- Jurassic Park- 1
Action-
Big J- Saving Private Ryan- 3
Dirk- Hunt for Red October- 2
Venom- Face Off- 1
Western-
Ill- Tombstone- 3
Kool- Unforgiven- 2
JRS- Dances with Wolves- 1
Utility-
Big J- Bronx Tale- 3
CP- Good Will Hunting- 3
Mr. O- South Park -2
JRS- Philadelphia- 2
Noskey- Truman Show- 1
Dub- Green Mile - 1


Ill: 6 Points
MrO: 6 Points
Venom: 6 Points
JohnnyRed: 7 Points
Noskey: 9 Points
Prime: 0 Points
CP: 8 Points
Dub: 5 Points
Kool: 4 Points
Big J: 6 Points
Dirk: 3 Points
JPZx: 0 Point

1st- Noskey
2nd- CP
3rd- JRS

 

[jrp44]

Sports-
Noskey- The Sandlot- 3
Venom- Rudy- 2
JRS- Happy Gilmore- 1
Drama-
Noskey- Goodfellas- 3
CP- Shawshank- 2
JRS- American Beauty-1
Comedy-
CP- American Pie- 3
Noskey- The Big Lebowski 2
Mr.O- Lion King 1
Horror/Thriller-
Mr.O- Fight Club- 3
JRS- Silence of the Lambs- 2
ill- Sixth Sense- 1
Crime-
Venom- Casino- 3
Ill- Pulp Fiction- 2
Dub- Carlito's Way- 1
Sci-Fi-
Dub- T2- 3
Kool- Matrix- 2
Dirk- Jurassic Park- 1
Action-
Big J- Saving Private Ryan- 3
Dirk- Hunt for Red October- 2
Venom- Face Off- 1
Western-
Ill- Tombstone- 3
Kool- Unforgiven- 2
JRS- Dances with Wolves- 1
Utility-
Big J- Bronx Tale- 3
CP- Good Will Hunting- 3
Mr. O- South Park -2
JRS- Philadelphia- 2
Noskey- Truman Show- 1
Dub- Green Mile - 1


Ill: 6 Points
MrO: 6 Points
Venom: 6 Points
JohnnyRed: 7 Points
Noskey: 9 Points
Prime: 0 Points
CP: 8 Points
Dub: 5 Points
Kool: 4 Points
Big J: 6 Points
Dirk: 3 Points
JPZx: 0 Point

1st- Noskey
2nd- CP
3rd- JRS

 

[mronegative]

See, I was gonna pick Any Given Sunday...then I remembered it was an Oliver Stone film...and a lot of the scenes besides that speech, he's such a hamfisted director...even compared to He Got Game...

 

[mronegative]

See, I was gonna pick Any Given Sunday...then I remembered it was an Oliver Stone film...and a lot of the scenes besides that speech, he's such a hamfisted director...even compared to He Got Game...

 

[big j 33]

No love for Hoop Dreams

 

[big j 33]

No love for Hoop Dreams

 

[jrp44]

Man it was hard as hell to break down some of the categories....

I voted based on my personal preference btw

 

[jrp44]

Man it was hard as hell to break down some of the categories....

I voted based on my personal preference btw

 

[jpzx]

No points though?

 

[jpzx]

No points though?

 

[jrp44]

Its crazy bc I think you have a top 5 overall team, but I guess in each category I didn't give you any points 

 

[jrp44]

Its crazy bc I think you have a top 5 overall team, but I guess in each category I didn't give you any points 

 

[venom lyrix]

First Look at "Drive" starring Ryan Gosling as a stunt driver - http://bit.ly/eedxZG

 

[venom lyrix]

First Look at "Drive" starring Ryan Gosling as a stunt driver - http://bit.ly/eedxZG

 

[illmaticsoulchild]

Originally Posted by Big J 33

No love for Hoop Dreams

Hoop Dreams is a great 90's film period. I honestly thought it would slip low enough in the draft for me to steal it.

 

[illmaticsoulchild]

Originally Posted by Big J 33

No love for Hoop Dreams

Hoop Dreams is a great 90's film period. I honestly thought it would slip low enough in the draft for me to steal it.

 

[chaostheory]

Simmon's The Book of Basketball.. dude is too jokes

& Space Jam.