Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

donnie darko has much more meaning than that ******g show about the island where they threw crap at the wall to see what would stick

yes i'm mad

I don't remember anything in there that didn't seem like it had a purpose. I don't understand the comparison to that show and any lynch surreal movie. I honestly don't think there is that much to "figure out".
The jet engine through the bedroom? :lol

I don't think of Darko as a complicated, "take it how you wanna take it" Lynch type thing.

Darko was pretty clearly *spoilers* an alternate timeline, where this kid gets the chance (through time travel) to see how life with him living would've turned out and is given the option to go back and sacrifice himself to save the girl he loves. And he's his own little superhero, because no one will ever know about the choice he made. *end spoilers*

it is true that the directors cut was bad
It's the worst. Maybe before I saw the director's cut, calling it Lynch-lite would maybe make sense.

Remember when everyone wanted answers from Lost, but were OK with not getting any for a while?
And then we got answers, but those answers were straight trash?

Darko was short and sweet and mysterious. And whatever questions you had, you just had to rewatch it and debate with friends til you figured something out. Because all that really mattered were the emotions and this unique dreamlike soft sci-fi world. You don't need answers to be charmed by this movie. The Director's cut is Richard Kelly shoving answers in.

I was out with friends. Half saw it already, half didn't. Bought it, put it on and the ones of us who saw it already were like...what in the ****? :{

Longer takes for no reason. Weird transitions. Bad pacing. And there are actual cue cards that pop up between every chapter with time travel, theme and movie plot ideas and explanations. I'm not kidding. :{

Ruins the whole ******g movie. The pace, the mystery, the charm, the atmosphere...all of it. Throw it out the window.

That and Southland Tales proved to me that Richard Kelly was in a George Lucas situation.
Where the combo of his creativity, naivete and limitations made something special, half on accident.
 
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Yeah sure, I was shocked when I saw the directors cut. It was surprisingly terrible. Only detracted from the movie. I don't remember the cue cards though.

I watched it twice. Looked at a few theories online. And that was all I needed. I never felt cheated or needed some type of concrete answers because I got the point and the whole self sacrifice theme was all I really needed.

And that everyone has their own end of the world.

I'm cool with subjective movies. I love the master but I don't think it really needs to be "figured out" with concrete precision. I love 2001 and the ending of blade runner. I love alien and don't care where the alien came from

But 6 seasons worth of question after question and unexplained crap and disappearing characters and characters doing things for no explicit reason, and teaser commercials, and the writers basically making fun of the audience. Nahhhhh **** that show
 
To say Blue Valentine was depressing would be an understatement.! Ryan Gosling is becoming one of my favorite actors....dude is legit.
 
But 6 seasons worth of question after question and unexplained crap and disappearing characters and characters doing things for no explicit reason, and teaser commercials, and the writers basically making fun of the audience. Nahhhhh **** that show
Yea....:lol

I don't want to think about Lost anymore. As far as I'm concerned, ABC cancelled it after season 5.

I should watch Darko again, though.
Haven't seen it since I saw Southland Tales and realized Richard Kelly wasn't gonna be the next Aronofsky. :{
 
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Imread that south land tales only makes sense if you read the comics

Which is a terrible way to make a movie. But you might get more enjoyment out of it if you read it. You simply can't do what he was trying to do


Southland Tales was initially planned to be a nine-part "interactive experience", with the first six parts published in six 100-page graphic novels that would be released in a six-month period up to the film's release. The feature film comprises the final three parts of the experience. A website was also developed to intertwine with the graphic novels and the film itself.[10] The idea of six graphic novels was later narrowed down to three. The novels were written by Kelly and illustrated by Brett Weldele. Kelly wrote them while making the film and found it very difficult as it pushed him "to the edge of my own sanity", as he remarked in an interview.[18]


Part One: Two Roads Diverge (May 25, 2006, ISBN 0-936211-75-X)
Part Two: Fingerprints (September 15, 2006, ISBN 0-936211-76-8)
Part Three: The Mechanicals (January 31, 2007, ISBN 0-936211-77-6)


They have been collected together into one single volume:
Southland Tales: The Prequel Saga (360 pages, Graphitti Designs, ISBN 0-936211-80-6)


The titles of the parts in the film are:
Part Four: Temptation Waits
Part Five: Memory Gospel
Part Six: Wave of Mutilation
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The thing is Southland Tales is a really terrible movie. It's not the understanding that makes it bad. It's that every single scene and sound is badly done. And the voiceover from Justin Timberlake. And Buffy and The Rock. It seemed like it had some interesting ideas buried under just...bad. And all the ideas felt so trashy and preachy. It felt like a political radio rant.
 
He wrote the script before 9/11 and then completley changed it up after. Maybe that pushed it into the preachy realm.

I didn't see it though. Kinda want to but I don't because I've always heard it was terrible. But ambitious
 
^^^ Wreck-It-Ralph was very good. I definitely recommend it. I wouldn't rank it as better than any of the Pixar movies - except maybe the Cars franchise. But still a very good animated film. ParaNorman was also excellent. Very different from Ralph, but also well worth watching. That said, of the two movies that have come out of the studio that made ParaNorman, I actually like Coraline better:
 
^i always confuse Mulholland Dr. and Mulholland Falls.  I wanted to see one, but I can't remember which.

any Film Noir heads in here?  What are your faves? 

Sunset Blvd.

Double Indemnity

The Lost Weekend

Witness for the Prosecution (watched it twice this week)

^pretty much anything Billy Wilder
 
Film noir is awesome. The Big Sleep and Double Indemnity are my favorites.

The Lost Weekend is about the alcoholic writer right. What a tough sad movie that was somehow really good.
 
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I personally hated that movie with a passion lol. Only lynch movies I truly liked we're blue velvet

I've heard the elephant man is a classic movie. I've read everything about it and it just seems to sad for me to watch. I dunno why he just became super surreal poster boy.

I want to see crumb and inland empire. If I hate those I'm not giving his movies another look.
 
I personally hated that movie with a passion lol.
 
lol I know I know. Lynch has his dedicated following for a reason. Maybe I just didn't have an open enough mind

I read a long *** article which explained which parts are real and which aren't. I may give it another shot one day. But I'm admittedly not into the super abstract surreal movies



Paul Thomas Anderson, Aronofsky, Nolan, Tarantino are probably the only directors right now that I would go see their movies opening weekend regardless of genre or subject. Scorsese is a maybe at this point but probably.
 
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I love Mulholland Drive, even if I don't fully get it.

Really liked Double Indemnity. Never seen The Big Sleep or Sunset Blvd.
 
Sunset Blvd. is great, the lead actress is what I imagine most hollywood stars are still like

watching it and hearing an iconic line that's been in so many movies in its original place

Scarlet Street is another of my favorites, the ending is so good and it has Edward G. Robinson

not sure if it's officially classified as a film noir though

i'm downloading the Big Sleep now....
 
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