Paypal Dispute Question Vol. Scammed by NT member

[camar087]

So recently I sold shoes here on NT.  I ship the shoes and once the shoes are delivered he files an "unauthorized claim." I even have pm's from this guy saying he has the shoes too.

Could anyone tell me the likelihood of me winning the dispute? So far I've only given paypal the tracking info for the package. 

 
Here's his NT username: So if you're selling something in the buy/sell forums be careful of this guy because he could possibly do the same to you.

Username:
DonBudd

Paypal Address:
[email protected]

Address:
DON BUDD
1000 CENTRAL AVE
KANSAS CITY KS, 66102

Phone Number:
913-321-0629

 

[bk201]

 

[stuntman mike]

Originally Posted by Camar087


 I even have pm's from this guy saying he has the shoes too.

post up the screen shots. 

 

[160jordansdeep]

damn DON BUDD 

BTW 

when it comes to mail orders 

i only take money orders if someone wants to get slick like 

mr budd

if thats his real name 

 

[young halo]

this is why i think twice about selling my kicks

OP, is there any proof of delivery or something like that?

 

[430AM]

grimey.

 

[pacmagic2002]

If you have tracking and you sent it to the confirmed address, you should be good. If they didnt have a confirmed address and dont have a tracking number, then you are in deep @$%@.

 

[camar087]

The package was delivered yesterday via USPS. Tracking number: 0310 2640 0000 0947 7971

Here is a screen shot: 
The first pm is him saying he got the shoes an hour ago.
The second pm is him promising that he'll cancel the paypal claim once the shoes arrive. (The shoes were suppose to arrive on March 11, 2011)


Here is a screen shot of the paypal claim: This is only one of the claims. He bought 2 pairs of shoes from me.

 

[pacmagic2002]

was it a confirmed or unconfirmed address?

 

[rns666]

Oh damn... This makes me leary of selling my kicks too.

 

[WhatisLove]

You should be protected if the confirmation number is showing "delivered" AND you shipped it to the address that was provided. Plus with all the PM's and stuff (not that Paypal will really care about that), you should have some evidence.

The only way you're not going to be covered is if the transaction was for $250+... then you would have needed signature confirmation that is viewable online in order to win. Delivery confirmation doesn't cut it for $250+ transactions.

Just going by what I see though, you did it in separate transactions, with the one you have showing being $125... so I would say you're good. But you never know with Paypal...

 

[camar087]

Originally Posted by pacmagic2002

was it a confirmed or unconfirmed address?

The payment was sent as a gift.

 

[triplekrown]

You need to call Payapl and get a claims specialist on the phone. I just had this sutation in reverse. I bought a crankshaft puley returned it and the seller would not answer my calls or messages. Call them they will refund your $.

 

[cwrite78]

and a gift it was, apparently

 

[taimaishu123]

Originally Posted by Camar087

Originally Posted by pacmagic2002

was it a confirmed or unconfirmed address?

The payment was sent as a gift.

thats where you messed up.

ill be in KC on the 1st tho

 

[WhatisLove]

Originally Posted by Camar087

Originally Posted by pacmagic2002

was it a confirmed or unconfirmed address?

The payment was sent as a gift.

Oh, well disregard everything I wrote then, as it doesn't apply for "gift"/personal payments (only purchases).

and a gift it was, apparently

This.  RIP.

 

[doosta45]

Originally Posted by Dr LukeMartin

If the payment was sent as a gift, then no claim can be opened.....

i thought the same thing.

 

[raptors29]

Originally Posted by Camar087

Originally Posted by pacmagic2002

was it a confirmed or unconfirmed address?

The payment was sent as a gift.

I never send anything as a gift for a reason. 

 

[mo greene]

you tried to scam paypal. don budd scammed you.

 

[oh you mad]

Originally Posted by doosta45

Originally Posted by Dr LukeMartin

If the payment was sent as a gift, then no claim can be opened.....

i thought the same thing.

This aint a regular non receipt claim though.. its a unauthorized claim. If he can convince paypal he didnt authorize the transfer you outta luck fam.

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[camar087]

He sent me the payment as a gift.

I was on the phone with Paypal today and he is claiming that someone used his account without his permission.  That is why he’s claiming an “unauthorized

 

[camar087]

Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by doosta45

Originally Posted by Dr LukeMartin

If the payment was sent as a gift, then no claim can be opened.....

i thought the same thing.

This aint a regular non receipt claim though.. its a unauthorized claim. If he can convince paypal he didnt authorize the transfer you outta luck fam.

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This. He convinced Paypal that he did not authorize the transfer.   

 

[pacmagic2002]

Yea, that was a dumb thing to do as far as the gift....Now that there is no item attached to the claim, you`re pretty much screwed.

Only way i can see you winning is if you show them the emails you got from him and the communication with him.

(Which i dont think paypal does......i tried this before and they wouldnt accept it)

 

[el cuco]

Originally Posted by Camar087

Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by doosta45

i thought the same thing.

This aint a regular non receipt claim though.. its a unauthorized claim. If he can convince paypal he didnt authorize the transfer you outta luck fam.

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This. He convinced Paypal that he did not authorize the transfer.   

So he used the gift option to screw you ?
Now thats just grimey

 

[Bert.]

Originally Posted by Dr LukeMartin

If the payment was sent as a gift, then no claim can be opened.....

[retty much, he filed a chargeback with his credit card company