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"Trout beat him .."
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Rewatched the fight once in normal speed and once in slow motion. Still had Lara winning a close competitive fight.
Lara Canelo
1 10/9
2 10/9
3 10/9
4 9/10
5 10/9
6 9/10
7 9/10
8 9/10
9 10/9
10 10/9
11 10/9
12 9/10
The fight pretty much went in 3 segments. Lara took the first segment with ease 3-1 boxing Canelo's head off. Canelo took the next segment 3-1 as Lara was adjusting to the cut over his eye from that sweet uppercut by Canelo. The young Mexican also did his best body work in the second segment. Lara came back strong in the last segment again moving and boxing Canelo's head off 3-1. Lara won this fight and at worse you can say it was a draw.
Lara Canelo
1 10/9
2 10/9
3 10/9
4 9/10
5 10/9
6 9/10
7 9/10
8 9/10
9 10/9
10 10/9
11 10/9
12 9/10
The fight pretty much went in 3 segments. Lara took the first segment with ease 3-1 boxing Canelo's head off. Canelo took the next segment 3-1 as Lara was adjusting to the cut over his eye from that sweet uppercut by Canelo. The young Mexican also did his best body work in the second segment. Lara came back strong in the last segment again moving and boxing Canelo's head off 3-1. Lara won this fight and at worse you can say it was a draw.
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I have to think in terms of "if the shoe was on the other foot" and ask myself this question.
If Canelo fought the fight Lara fought, and Lara fought Canelo style "body shot dominant"
Canelo wins Unanimously or at least by Majority. Split decision wouldn't have been the outcome.
If Canelo fought the fight Lara fought, and Lara fought Canelo style "body shot dominant"
Canelo wins Unanimously or at least by Majority. Split decision wouldn't have been the outcome.
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If those head shots belonged to Canelo
And the body count to Lara,
Canelo all day, all day
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You score a fight based on four principles. Defense, ring generalship, clean punches and effective aggression. Canelo went to the body well and that's about it. Lara went to the head well and also made Canelo fight on his terms. He controlled pretty much controlled when and where they fought. Clearly Lara threw less yet landed more. Made Canelo look stupid swinging for the fences slipping punches. The last part of the equation is effective aggression. Canelo was aggressive but it wasn't effective majority of the fight.
Just look at the body language of Lara and his team versus Canelo and his team. One camp was happy as hell the other was sullen and silent. Canelo knew he lost. He had the same look when Mayweather beat his ***.
Just look at the body language of Lara and his team versus Canelo and his team. One camp was happy as hell the other was sullen and silent. Canelo knew he lost. He had the same look when Mayweather beat his ***.
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Good point right here.
I knew Lara would get robbed but damn at least call it a draw. 117-111
.. Hopefully we get a rematch.
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You know damn well he ain't getting a rematch b. The fight would be a repeat and they know it. Canelo chasing Lara around the ring missing punches and eating leather for 12 roundsGood point right here.
I knew Lara would get robbed but damn at least call it a draw. 117-111.. Hopefully we get a rematch.
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Once they added Kellerman, I followed in hopes that they'd let him discuss boxing in his blocks.
They don't let him discuss it for long, but his opinion is one I value highly no matter if 45 seconds or 45 minutes
Once they added Kellerman, I followed in hopes that they'd let him discuss boxing in his blocks.
They don't let him discuss it for long, but his opinion is one I value highly no matter if 45 seconds or 45 minutes
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Just follow him on twitter it's even better. He always give his thoughts after major fights and he interact with fans who disagree with him.
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Good idea man, doing that now. Thanks mate.
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is canelo having trouble make 154 I thought I heard? I think that's why you hear cotto or GGG at 160
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Dude weighed in at 171. No wonder that uppercut did just that, cut Lara's upper.
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That was one of the best uppercuts I've seen in a while 
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He got asked if he was moving up to 160 anytime soon and said there are no plans to and that he makes 154 comfortably.
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He's had trouble making weight since Marthew Hatton. He'd be short at 160. There are even a lot of 154 lbers who are 6'. He needs to try diuretics like Chavez Jr.
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Opinion split in boxing media on who won the Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez-Erislandy Lara showdown
at people getting outraged at Canelo winning when it was a close fight that could have gone either way.
at people getting outraged at Canelo winning when it was a close fight that could have gone either way.
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Most sensible people aren't outraged by Canelo winning but the 117-111 score.
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117-111 was a ******** judgement.
That said even if Lara landed 10 more overall punches, Canelo landed the more pertinent leather.
You don't win fights by being on your bicycle. You have to land pertinent leather in the process.
He was in control the first 3 rounds and then let Canelo back in that 4th round. His efficiency and accuracy took a dip as well. After that point his accuracy was about on par with Canelos. But again Canelo was landing the more pertinent leather.
If you go back a month/two months ago. I firmly believed Lara was going to upset Canelo. I believed Canelo never fought a southpaw with the boxing acumen and hand-speed Lara possesses. Not Trout nor Ryan Rhodes are on the level Lara is.
I still believe he can beat Canelo, but as it stands Canelo took back control of the fight, settled in, and did enough to earn the victory. Could it have went the other way? Certainly. IMO either way you slice it, it would've been a controversial decision. That 117-111 judgement however was so bad however that I can't possibly muster a justification.
But again, you cannot win fights on a bicycle. Canelo landed 36 more power shots than Lara. That's why he got his hand raised.
Take the Mayweather/Maidana bout for example.
Maidana landed more punches than anyone ever has against Mayweather. But Mayweather not only outlanded him, he landed nearly as many power punches as Canelo did and he did so at a 65% accuracy clip.
That's how you win fights as a pure boxer, as a counter-puncher, as a fighter with the faster hands. You cannot let a guy just cut the ring off and bully you. You need to at some point land leather.
Lara only has himself to blame. Bad judging or not. Would love to see a rematch. I'm sure Lara being the high IQ technician he is would make the necessary adjustments to win.
That said even if Lara landed 10 more overall punches, Canelo landed the more pertinent leather.
You don't win fights by being on your bicycle. You have to land pertinent leather in the process.
He was in control the first 3 rounds and then let Canelo back in that 4th round. His efficiency and accuracy took a dip as well. After that point his accuracy was about on par with Canelos. But again Canelo was landing the more pertinent leather.
If you go back a month/two months ago. I firmly believed Lara was going to upset Canelo. I believed Canelo never fought a southpaw with the boxing acumen and hand-speed Lara possesses. Not Trout nor Ryan Rhodes are on the level Lara is.
I still believe he can beat Canelo, but as it stands Canelo took back control of the fight, settled in, and did enough to earn the victory. Could it have went the other way? Certainly. IMO either way you slice it, it would've been a controversial decision. That 117-111 judgement however was so bad however that I can't possibly muster a justification.
But again, you cannot win fights on a bicycle. Canelo landed 36 more power shots than Lara. That's why he got his hand raised.
Take the Mayweather/Maidana bout for example.
Maidana landed more punches than anyone ever has against Mayweather. But Mayweather not only outlanded him, he landed nearly as many power punches as Canelo did and he did so at a 65% accuracy clip.
That's how you win fights as a pure boxer, as a counter-puncher, as a fighter with the faster hands. You cannot let a guy just cut the ring off and bully you. You need to at some point land leather.
Lara only has himself to blame. Bad judging or not. Would love to see a rematch. I'm sure Lara being the high IQ technician he is would make the necessary adjustments to win.
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I think we are going to see a vintage Floyd Mayweather performance vs Maidana.
Think he's going to get off first from the jump and exploit Maidana's lack of defense.
I just re watched Shane/Floyd. From 2:30 of the 2nd round til the final bell, Floyd Dominated offensively. He's got that alpha dog in him when tested. Just like he did Castillo in the rematch.
Think he's going to get off first from the jump and exploit Maidana's lack of defense.
I just re watched Shane/Floyd. From 2:30 of the 2nd round til the final bell, Floyd Dominated offensively. He's got that alpha dog in him when tested. Just like he did Castillo in the rematch.
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Opinion split in boxing media on who won the Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez-Erislandy Lara showdown
Lol, only person that seemed outraged was
unclerukus
Everyone else seemed to have watched the fight with no bias.
There is no way Lara did enough to win.
Draw, yea, but even though a Lara was my pick, I would like to see him do more to take the fight.
With Canelo being the Champ, I think the belt should have stayed with him based on what I saw.
Lara lost it in 4-8. You can't lose 5 RD's in a row, even if you won the first 3, and still win a fight, unless the rounds 9-12 that you do win, you win convincingly, and those rounds that were won or lost in 9-12 were a toss up between either fighter.
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Canelo still sucks at cutting off the ring. I understand loyalty, but hire an extra trainer that specializes in that. Especially since he make's so much money now. Imagine how much better he will be if he can cut off the ring effectively.
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PBF is going to be a lot more mobile in the Maidana rematch. He did a great job landing the straight right hand and the jab to the body in the first fight, and I expect more of the same in September. Floyd showed why he's the best when it comes to making adjustments, as he lessened the effectiveness of Maidana's offensive attack with the use of the ropes and boxing and moving in spurts. Mayweather will win by wide UD.
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I think it's going to be just like the first time. Sure Floyd will be more mobile. But he won't take control of the fight until Maidana's output drops in the middle rounds. Maidana's attacks are too wild and erratic for Floyd to time. The referee will not allow Maidana to get away with dirty tactics.
