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[bostongeorge]

Not sure how you feel about "Value brands" when it comes to performance parts but look into VRSF

My brother has the down pipes and im currently trying to convince him to pick up the intercooler. They get great reviews on the forums and don't have the high cost of the AR and others in that price range.

That's the brand I'm looking at only 479 shipped for the 7inch intercooler.

 

[Nawzlew]

 

Make sure you get rid of your brakes

Am I missing something here?

Brakes are useless. If you have good tires and a pair of bicycle brakes, you can cash out on your stock ones. They're both as effective for daily driving.

#ntextremes.

I'm just saying if you want to decrease stopping distance, getting stickier tires will help more than buying big brakes.

 

[waitwut]

quick someone post a pic of their car

 

[Nawzlew]

Tires are one of the most important elements when stopping a vehicle quickly and efficiently. When engineers calculate braking distance, they use several variables. One of them is traction coefficient. The higher the traction coefficient is, the shorter the braking distance will be [source: Jones & Childers]. Thus, the braking distance can change greatly based on the type and condition of the vehicle's tires. Tires with little or no tread will be more susceptible to skidding during heavy braking. When the tires skid (a decrease of the traction coefficient), they lose traction and increase the braking distance. Tire compound or makeup can also change braking distance. Some high performance tires offer better adhesion under heavy braking and won't break loose or skid as easily as harder tires.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-...ts/how-to-test-vehicle-stopping-distance1.htm

The Physics Behind Stopping.

Physics doesn't discriminate between starting or stopping, but instead considers them both changes in kinetic energy. Thus, an object at a constant speed reacts the same as an object that is sitting still. That being said, the Standard Kinetic Friction Equation applies to stopping just as much as starting movement. In simple terms it says an object in contact with the ground will absorb the most kinetic energy right before movement, or sliding. This applies in the reverse as well: an car in motion will absorb the most kinetic energy right before the wheels lock up. With respect to modern vehicles, this equation states that the only way to make a car stop quicker is to either increase the coefficient of friction with the road, (e.g. upgraded tires) or decrease mass by lightening the vehicle. Note, both of these things have little to do with brakes.

Why Big Brakes Don't Reduce Stopping Distance.

As the physics lesson states, under braking, your car absorbs the most kinetic energy (movement) right before the tires lock up. This is true for both non-ABS cars and ones equipped with ABS. Abs shortens stopping distance by attempting to keep the brakes on the point of locking- where most kinetic energy is absorbed. Even though they have come a long way, even the most advanced ABS systems react by pulsing braking pressure resulting in a slide, roll, slide, roll pattern. In a perfect world, a perfect ABS system would perch the brakes at the cusp of sliding without ever actually locking up. Upgraded calipers and rotors in a big brake kit will result in more braking torque, the stopping force applied to the wheels. This will bring about wheel lockup or ABS intervention sooner than with the stock system. This should not be interpreted as a shorter stopping distance. In many instances the larger brakes confuse the stock ABS system which is not tuned to the different pressures required to engage and disengage the brakes.

What a Big Brake System Does to Improve Performance.

Big brake systems were not designed to stop your car sooner, but rather, stop it more efficiently and consistently. The larger calipers, vented discs, and exotic-compound pads increase heat capacity and heat dissipation. These upgraded braking systems not only perform well under extreme temperatures, but in most cases perform better when hot as opposed to average street driving temperatures. This is definitely something to consider when deciding on rotor and pad compounds. Because these brakes dissipate heat more effectively, they reduce brake fade. Brake fade occurs under high temperatures, can be caused by boiled brake fluid, and results in a soft pedal and elongated stopping distances. Big brake systems don't decrease your car's stopping distance over stock. Instead, they are designed to perform consistently under extreme conditions so that your car will stop just as well the first time as the N'th time.

http://www.autos.com/aftermarket-parts/why-a-big-brake-kit-wont-make-your-car-stop-faster

In fact, Dan Barnes of StopTech surprised the heck out of us when he said, "If you have a properly-functioning, well-designed brake system already, the only thing you can do to improve single-stop braking distance is get better tires. Any force that accelerates, slows or stops the car can only be applied through the tire's contact patches. If your current brake system is using all four tires to stop the car as effectively as possible, no brake system change will result in a shorter stopping distance."

So if better brakes won't help you stop shorter, what will they do? Here's Chris Bernal, brake division manager for Stillen: "Let's say a guy goes to a track day once in a while, or he drives the canyons hard, going deep into corners-within the legal limits, of course. He's building heat in the brake system. Most vehicles as delivered from the factory have great brake systems to keep from hitting people in crosswalks, but not to deal with heat buildup. If you're feeling brake fade or a soft brake pedal, you need an upgrade."


Read more: http://www.superstreetonline.com/ho...0605-aftermarket-brake-upgrade/#ixzz3Vclmq2qx

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1850247-Purchased

http://www.i-club.com/forums/suspen...what-will-decrease-my-braking-distance-45930/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5136

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-distance-What-s-the-deal-with-drilled-rotors

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2111543

 

[kevenmayne]

Brakes are useless. If you have good tires and a pair of bicycle brakes, you can cash out on your stock ones. They're both as effective for daily driving.

Clearly you and others in here don't understand the meaning of upgrading. Which is what I am talking about the whole time. Obviously you can't put a fiat's brakes on an 18 wheeler either, @ the other guy.

Let's all take a moment and research what upgrading means, please lol.
And I've already stated they do matter for autoX and track, I'm so confused that people can be this hard headed and not understand what I'm saying. Am I speaking in slang, posting only smileys, or not using any logic? Nope. You guys, on the other hand...*shrugs*

 

[kevenmayne]

Omg, actual evidence is being posted and not just "LOLz omgz you are wrong, brembos are the b3st"

Thank you for posting that, no one in here laughing at me has shown me they can comprehend any reading material, though.

 

[Nawzlew]

Omg, actual evidence is being posted and not just "LOLz omgz you are wrong, brembos are the b3st"

Thank you for posting that, no one in here has shown me they can comprehend any reading material, though.

I still wouldn't say that Brembos/BBK's are gimmicks though, they work.

If you have the money and want to get them whether it's for your daily or for your track car, go for it. An upgrade is an upgrade.

 

[polosanddunks]

Let dude believe what he wants to believe . Lets see some cars and information

 

[Nawzlew]

Ok, fair enough.

I didn't say they were useless, that other guy did.

 

[omariwestafari]

Homie just went Google crazy, to say nothing.

I'm positive it's that superb dude.

To be honest u acting liek a troll posting this kinda response to his FAX

 

[omariwestafari]

Im not getting into dis brah

For once i dont wanna argue

Instead ill post one of da goats

 

[waitwut]

da e30 was nice

til i saw da fender

 

[omariwestafari]

I can never satisfy yall

 

[nelson999]

Its like there was some kind of underground group that got together and planned on ruining the best threads on NT on this Friday. This thread and the NBA thread have been under attack today

 

[retro707]

Washing bae today. May post *** pics. Of the car of course. Love it or hate it. It's My M. #nuffsaid

 

[jocruz89]

I still don't understand how you dudes so much about the FT1 brakes when the car hasn't even reached production yet. Could someone explain?

 

[omariwestafari]

I still don't understand how you dudes so much about the FT1 brakes when the car hasn't even reached production yet. Could someone explain?

They were just pulling ur leg my b,
No one was serious papi

 

[jocruz89]

They were just pulling ur leg my b,
No one was serious papi

LOL DAMN

 

[retro707]

Just got back from SF. Stayed at W. Chill spot

 

[omariwestafari]

My dude copped da m4 but couldnt upgrade from da sidekick

.not srs papi :}

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Its like there was some kind of underground group that got together and planned on ruining the best threads on NT on this Friday. This thread and the NBA thread have been under attack today

+1

 

[retro707]

Just got back from SF. Stayed at W. Chill spot

Lol. Yup. Sorry. Can't afford a nice camera. Since ALL of you post professional pics. Damb.

 

[retro707]

Dudes gotta do better.. sidekick jokes. Smh. What else bro? My m4 not blue enough? Room got too many windows. . Lmao

 

[waitwut]

u wanted a lip on ur m4 right? any catch ur eye yet

 

[omariwestafari]

Dudes gotta do better.. sidekick jokes. Smh. What else bro? My m4 not blue enough? Room got too many windows. . Lmao

broooo did u not read my black text

i said just joking

im just poking fun at you papi, just tryna lighten up themood no shots thrown b