President of Poland killed in plane crash

Poland was next in line to default... The bankers didn't want as much resistence as they had with Greece.... The world is a game with no rules... Nwo is in full effect...
 
Poland was next in line to default... The bankers didn't want as much resistence as they had with Greece.... The world is a game with no rules... Nwo is in full effect...
 
Poland was next in line to default... The bankers didn't want as much resistence as they had with Greece.... The world is a game with no rules... Nwo is in full effect...
 
I'm Polish myself and moved to the the US when I was 7 so this hits close to home in my heart as I still feel close ties to my birth country and the family and friends I have there. I mean this is devastating and I feel sadness even though I disliked the president with a passion. Though, no ducktales, I was actually related to him as well.

But I really find it ironic that this occurred celebrating the 70th anniversary of the massacre of Polish prisoners of war in the village of Katyn. I mean if you guys look up the actual massacre you see just how Russia was the "protector of the slavic culture" that they kept deeming themselves after world war 1. And the truth about it just came out roughly 20 years ago. There is a lot of conspiracy theories being drawn up in our media now because it seems like it's more than just coincidence.


Oh and EstBeast, that movie was nominated for the best international movie oscar 2 or 3 years ago.



Edit.  2 notes I want to make for the people who don't know.

One, our ex Prime Minister Miller got into a plane accident in that same plane a few years back.  Now how the hell do you use a plane like that for a president.  I'll never understand

Two, how the hell do you put that many politicians and people of political standing in one %$+*+%* plane.  I will never understand.
 
Originally Posted by devildog1776

Poland was next in line to default... The bankers didn't want as much resistence as they had with Greece.... The world is a game with no rules... Nwo is in full effect...

Funny, Poland had the strongest GDP growth in the EU in 2009.  95 people lost their lives man.
 
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Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
 
Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 
 
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
i rest my case.
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i hope ur being sarcastic
 
Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.

           Siberian prisoncamps you know about them??? My family have suffered too much, %+!+ RUSSIA
 
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
i rest my case.
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i hope ur being sarcastic
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.
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Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
i rest my case.
Spoiler [+]
i hope ur being sarcastic
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.
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I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lol
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research.  Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
 
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
i rest my case.
Spoiler [+]
i hope ur being sarcastic
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.
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I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lol
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research.  Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.


Mind you this isn't a Good Guy/bad guy thing, its an argument on facts, the U.S. is no angel, and neither are the Russians.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
i rest my case.
Spoiler [+]
i hope ur being sarcastic
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.
glasses.gif
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lol
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research.  Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.


Mind you this isn't a Good Guy/bad guy thing, its an argument on facts, the U.S. is no angel, and neither are the Russians.
why we arguing then? the thing that was bugging me initially was that dudes were quick to blame Russia when in fact it could be the US or Russia.
 
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
i rest my case.
Spoiler [+]
i hope ur being sarcastic
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.
glasses.gif
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lol
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research.  Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.


Mind you this isn't a Good Guy/bad guy thing, its an argument on facts, the U.S. is no angel, and neither are the Russians.
why we arguing then? the thing that was bugging me initially was that dudes were quick to blame Russia when in fact it could be the US or Russia.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TeamJordan79

Originally Posted by Sputnik

Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy. 

Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
i rest my case.
Spoiler [+]
i hope ur being sarcastic
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.
glasses.gif
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lol
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research.  Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.


Mind you this isn't a Good Guy/bad guy thing, its an argument on facts, the U.S. is no angel, and neither are the Russians.
why we arguing then? the thing that was bugging me initially was that dudes were quick to blame Russia when in fact it could be the US or Russia.
U firmly believe that Russia has historically been and still is the bad guy based on the very "facts" that u were conditioned with. What do u want me to refute?

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