QB THREAD - 2x quarterbacky award winner: Lamar Jackson

3 of the throws to Matthews were good throws, put the ball where only his guy could get it

Russell Wilson was playing with a guy who was working at Foot Locker

Foot Locker?

Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

Remember how you cried about Marino having to play with the UPS guy?

I do. And foot locker guy was catching the ball on the wrong side of his body, but that's a great throw, to you. :lol :rollin
 
:lol Its called a back shoulder fade

Its a staple of most professional offenses especially with big recievers
 
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Brady 135 Att, 4 INT
Luck 120 Att, 4 INT
Flacco 74 att, 2 INT
Rodgers 69 att, 2 INT
Cam 68 Att, 3 INT

Russ 72 att, 5 INT


Transcendent. :hat
 
Arguing with Mr. Friendly is like arguing with a child. I am not going to get into how good or bad Wilson played yesterday, but I will echo the fact that myself and a few others have been saying in here all season long.....

Aside from the very small handful of games in his career that Wilson's poor play was a direct reason the Seahawks lost, whether Wilson plays great or doesnt do much of anything, the Seahawks success is 100% predicated on their defense.

They gave up 28 points yesterday, they lost. Its really that simple.
 
Arguing with Mr. Friendly is like arguing with a child. I am not going to get into how good or bad Wilson played yesterday, but I will echo the fact that myself and a few others have been saying in here all season long.....

Aside from the very small handful of games in his career that Wilson's poor play was a direct reason the Seahawks lost, whether Wilson plays great or doesnt do much of anything, the Seahawks success is 100% predicated on their defense.

They gave up 28 points yesterday, they lost. Its really that simple.

Yep.

And they outguessed themselves when they went away from their best player on the goalline.

Give it to Lynch, he has 108 yards, 2 TD's, a 31 yard catch, and is the MVP, and they win the Super Bowl.


Instead, they gave it to the Transcendent INT maker. Fail Mary INT game winner, the 4 INT NFC Title game winner, and the Super Bowl INT, game winner. (just for the other team this time)

So many transcendent INT's. :hat
 
 
Brady's legacy is set. IMO, the Seahawks legacy is set. Both are one of the best of all time at what they do...nothing that happens in this game should change that narrative.

I've always believed that body of work > individual performances & small sample sizes.
Still believe in this.

Brady's individual performance was excellent, MUCH better than what I thought it would be. I thought he would struggle a lot more. BB & Josh had a hell of a gameplan. There's obviously other circumstances that went in the Patriots favor, and it's part of the reason why I'm not with the "all or nothing, black & white" thought with everything riding on one game.

If there's one thing I've learned to appreciate in the past 10 years, it's how truly difficult it is to go on that run and finish the job. You also need luck, bounce of the balls, health, etc. to go your way as well. Brady & the offense handed the lead to their defense late in the 4th Q in 3 consecutive SB games and the team managed to win 1 out of 3. Were real close last night to being 0 for 3 if it wasn't for (again) other circumstances. So the narrative today would've been Brady losing 3 SB games in a row w/ mostly a negative spin even though he did more than his part in this game vs. the previous two L's. And today the talking heads would've brought up Spygate, Deflategate, etc. as a way to **** on him...because the Seahawks decided not use Marshawn at the 1.
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Dumb.

Honestly do not care about ranks and any of that stuff. I've never been a big fan of arguing lists and rankings. At the end of the day, it's all subjective. Even though you should probably have a good feel of where certain players belong.

All that GOAT **** riding on one game is too damn arbitrary for me. Winning a SB is a team accomplishment, and Body of work w/ context > W/L result from one game.
 
brady's 4th quarter was the best i've seen a qb play vs the LOB. it just had to be in the 4th quarter of the super bowl :{

russ should've been better, but thought he did enough to win. just a stupid *** playcall at the end. also credit to the pats dbs, played a great game yesterday.
 
 
Brady's legacy is set. IMO, the Seahawks legacy is set. Both are one of the best of all time at what they do...nothing that happens in this game should change that narrative.

I've always believed that body of work > individual performances

Still believe in this.

Brady's individual performance was excellent, MUCH better than what I thought it would be. I thought he would struggle a lot more. BB & Josh had a hell of a gameplan. There's obviously other circumstances that went in the Patriots favor, and it's part of the reason why I'm not with the "all or nothing, black & white" thought with everything riding on one game.

If there's one thing I've learned to appreciate in the past 10 years, it's how truly difficult it is to go on that run and finish the job. You also need luck, bounce of the balls, health, etc. to go your way as well. Brady & the offense handed the lead to their defense late in the 4th Q in 3 consecutive SB games and the team managed to win 1 out of 3. Were real close last night to being 0 for 3 if it wasn't for (again) other circumstances. So the narrative today would've been Brady losing 3 SB games in a row w/ mostly a negative spin even though he did more than his part in this game vs. the previous two L's. And today the talking heads would've brought up Spygate, Deflategate, etc. as a way to **** on him...because the Seahawks decided not use Marshawn at the 1. :lol :{ Dumb.

Honestly do not care about ranks and any of that stuff. I've never been a big fan of arguing lists and rankings. At the end of the day, it's all subjective. Even though you should probably have a good feel of where certain players belong.

All that GOAT **** riding on one game is too damn arbitrary for me. Winning a SB is a team accomplishment, and Body of work w/ context > W/L result from one game.


Very much like what I was saying in that long *** post I made a couple weeks back. So much singular stuff that changes EVERYTHING that gets recorded.

1 yard line run changes Brady from GOAT status, to 0-3 the last 7-8 years, and moves Russ up to “Winner” status, etc etc.

The Tyree catch alone should have been a huge indicator of how dicey it is. Brady threw the game winning TD, and then he didn’t. All off that catch. :lol


Either way, what Brady did vs that defense is somethin special. I had been tweeting, NE was going to be stuck on 14, aren’t they? We’d seen it so much from this defense, they are going to lock him up at 14 points, just like the previous 10 games vs Super Bowl QB’s. (13.8) And then in the 4th, he went historic. Peter King mentioned that in game, the Pats switched their blocking scheme on Bennett, and that changed everything for Tom. I’m sure we’ll see/hear more of that as the film gets dissected, but Bennett was EVERYWHERE in the first half, I don’t remember if he did much in the second. I’ll double check when I get home tonight. But either way, tremendous performance from Tom.
 
ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 8m8 minutes ago
Tom Brady threw 2 TD passes in the 4th quarter last night.

The Seahawks had allowed 1 4th-quarter Pass TD TOTAL in their previous 10 games.
 
This trollin dude rollin thru, tellin people about 1984 & ****, then tellin us that Russ is great cuz he threw them balls on the wrong side of the receiver, but it's ok cuz that's called "back shoulder" throws, and Brady was great, but they lost their 9th and 10th best defenders, so they couldn't adjust to Mr Brady etc etc etc. :lol


Are you related to Antidope in any way? Just curious. I sense a long lost brother type situation, we may be able to reunite you fellas. :Nthat
 
Woah woah woah woah.

Lane and Avril weren't important? I mean can Avril is the only other half way decent pass rusher besides bennett and Lane like I said before is arguably the best nickel DB in the L. Not to mention it forced Tharold Simon out there almost every play and it but Bryan Walters as a gunner on special teams :x
 
Like I said, 9th or 10th most important defenders. Seahawks still had TONS of talent on that side of the ball. TONS.

New England played without Buchanan, Easley, Mayo, Ridley, Dennard, and they all matter to that team. But they had enough to keep going.

A defense with Sherman, Kam, ET, Irvin, Bennett, Wagner, Wright, Williams, McDaniel etc is still REAL good. That alone is more talent than a lot of teams. You can't possibly be sellin me that Seattle lost because they lost those 2 guys. I know you wouldn't do that, or use that excuse. I know you're better than that.
 
Would Avril and Lane even be good enough to get a Starting Lineup action figure?
 
Like I said, 9th or 10th most important defenders. Seahawks still had TONS of talent on that side of the ball. TONS.

New England played without Buchanan, Easley, Mayo, Ridley, Dennard, and they all matter to that team. But they had enough to keep going.

A defense with Sherman, Kam, ET, Irvin, Bennett, Wagner, Wright, Williams, McDaniel etc is still REAL good. That alone is more talent than a lot of teams. You can't possibly be sellin me that Seattle lost because they lost those 2 guys. I know you wouldn't do that, or use that excuse. I know you're better than that.

bruh Tharold Simon is hot garbage. Same dude made Cam look decent for a stretch in the divisional game. Our pass rush has been trash all year and losing our 6th defensive lineman showed after Avril left.
Acting like dudes wouldn't be top 3 guys and 90% of the other leagues defense's in the league :lol
 
I have a different opinion than you do

I said Russell is more than a game manager and borderline elite at best

I stand by that....I'm only taking Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger and Luck over him and sleeping great at night.

9th and 10 defenders?

It doesn't work like that in the NFL
 
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