QB THREAD - 2x quarterbacky award winner: Lamar Jackson

[dland24]

Jesus grow Up. I watched the games. If I was just reading a boxscore I wouldnt have forgotten Russell's gift.

Why are you Seahawk fans so sensitive? Whenever people try to compliment you all world defense, its the same thing with you guys. "But, but Russell Wilson...."

 

[a55a5in11]

Jesus grow Up. I watched the games. If I was just reading a boxscore I wouldnt have forgotten Russell's gift.

Why are you Seahawk fans so sensitive? Whenever people try to compliment you all world defense, its the same thing with you guys. "But, but Russell Wilson...."

But you did forget

 

[100027]

Jesus grow Up. I watched the games. If I was just reading a boxscore I wouldnt have forgotten Russell's gift.

Why are you Seahawk fans so sensitive? Whenever people try to compliment you all world defense, its the same thing with you guys. "But, but Russell Wilson...."

You're trying too hard.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Sooooooooooo... how about that Andy Dalton guy?

 

[va757va]

I think he deserves some praise...

as ive said before, dalton simply looks different..more in control..doesnt throw stupid balls anymore..

some of thos throws were sick sunday..the deep ball to eifert was unfair..

I think Andy has taken that next step, where he can win you games instead of just being there for the ride and looking lost when the pressure turns up..

I never thought highly of him prior to this year...not afraid to change my mind tho..

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Oh he most definitely deserves praise. Down 17 to the Seahawks and gets the comeback W. He was throwing some darts.

Really impressed thus far.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

He got a confidence boost from somewhere. Seems like hes bought into the fact that its his team and is empowered to step up and go make plays instead of not lose games.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Russ gonna get a pass for scoring a single TD in 70 minutes of football?

 

[dmxfury]

Andy out dueling Russ and shredding that Sehawks D in the fourth quarter had me impressed

 

[Chester McFloppy]

He can't carry them tho.

@NKMLBA
Seahawks are 0-10 with Russell Wilson as a starter when their defense allows 25 points or more

 

[Lovetohate3000]

Russ gonna get a pass for scoring a single TD in 70 minutes of football?

mr system qb not that good , what a surprise.

. i been said seahawks going to regret giving russ that contract. hes just not that good or worth anything close to what they paid him . 

seahawks fans are dumb. 

yeah good game by dalton but its not even half way through the season. ima wait on him to perform in the postseason first as well. 

 

[DeadsetAce]

He can't carry them tho.

@NKMLBA
Seahawks are 0-10 with Russell Wilson as a starter when their defense allows 25 points or more

damn

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Dude.

Seahawks have only allowed 25+ points 10 times in 61 games.

Bruh.

 

[DeadsetAce]

25 is the magic number versus them

 

[Chester McFloppy]

25 is the magic number versus them

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[DeadsetAce]

 

[elpablo21]

Anyone have the record for other QBs when their team allows 25+ points? 

Certainly Russ needs to take a step forward, the offense in general needs to implement an offensive scheme that pushes that style along the way. I think CHECKS mentioned this in the team thread but Russ height is really starting to stick out when he is not attacking the mid range game in the middle of the field...when he has the time

I feel like Russ missed two TD's (the completion to Dougie and the Incomplete to Lockett) both blown by their coverage and would have walked in imo. His deep ball was real inaccurate and that's usually a plus for him. The offensive line doesnt help, and forcing Jimmy to block doesnt help either, it's pretty much the same mundane **** every weekend from a schematic point of view.

Anyways carry on with your circle jerk

Edit: Closest thing I could find

24+ points*

Brady (week 3, '01 NEP)	40-42	3-8
P. Manning (week 1, '98 IND; week 1, '12 DEN)	45-63	1-10
Roethlisberger (week 3, '04 PIT)	16-31	2-9
Brees (week 1, '02 SDC; week 1'06 NO)	30-73	2-9
Rodgers (week1, '08 GB)	16-26	1-10
Wilson (week 1, '12 SEA)	2-9	2-9
Luck (week 1, '12 IND)	11-15	5-6
Kaepernick (week 10, '12 SFO)	8-7-1	6-4-1
Romo	16-36	6-5
Flacco	15-22	5-6
Eli	20-61	2-9
Joe Cool	23-25	5-6
Felipe Rios	20-37	4-7
Ryan	16-38	3-8
Stafford	10-31	3-8
Supercam	3-24-1	null
Cutler	12-35	null
Bridgewater	3-2	null

[th=""]QB/First start/Team[/th][th=""]Overall Record[/th][th=""]First 11[/th]

end of the day, the offense has to give that defense a break when they are on the field too long or are not on their A++ game

 

[Lovetohate3000]

 
Anyone have the record for other QBs when their team allows 25+ points? 

Certainly Russ needs to take a step forward, the offense in general needs to implement an offensive scheme that pushes that style along the way. I think CHECKS mentioned this in the team thread but Russ height is really starting to stick out when he is not attacking the mid range game in the middle of the field...when he has the time

I feel like Russ missed two TD's (the completion to Dougie and the Incomplete to Lockett) both blown by their coverage and would have walked in imo. His deep ball was real inaccurate and that's usually a plus for him. The offensive line doesnt help, and forcing Jimmy to block doesnt help either, it's pretty much the same mundane **** every weekend from a schematic point of view.

Anyways carry on with your circle jerk

when opponents score between 25-27 points 

rodgers is 7 -3

brady is 11-9 

eli is 4-10

flacco is 5-6 

stafford is 2-10 

luck is 3-0 

luck is 1-9 when opponents score 40+ points  . 

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Anyone have the record for other QBs when their team allows 25+ points?

Matt Hasselbeck's backup is 10-15 when his team allows 25+ points.

Uggs is 25-30.

Shaky is 12-22.

Here's an article from March for records when team allows 21+ points. Thomas. :x

http://www.footballperspective.com/quarterback-records-when-their-team-allows-21-points/

 

[elpablo21]

 

 
Anyone have the record for other QBs when their team allows 25+ points? 

Certainly Russ needs to take a step forward, the offense in general needs to implement an offensive scheme that pushes that style along the way. I think CHECKS mentioned this in the team thread but Russ height is really starting to stick out when he is not attacking the mid range game in the middle of the field...when he has the time

I feel like Russ missed two TD's (the completion to Dougie and the Incomplete to Lockett) both blown by their coverage and would have walked in imo. His deep ball was real inaccurate and that's usually a plus for him. The offensive line doesnt help, and forcing Jimmy to block doesnt help either, it's pretty much the same mundane **** every weekend from a schematic point of view.

Anyways carry on with your circle jerk

when opponents score between 25-27 points 

rodgers is 7 -3

brady is 11-9 

eli is 4-10

flacco is 5-6 

stafford is 2-10 

luck is 3-0 

luck is 1-9 when opponents score 40+ points  . 

 

Anyone have the record for other QBs when their team allows 25+ points?

Matt Hasselbeck's backup is 10-15 when his team allows 25+ points.

Uggs is 25-30.

Shaky is 12-22.

Here's an article from March for records when team allows 21+ points. Thomas.

http://www.footballperspective.com/quarterback-records-when-their-team-allows-21-points/

Source?

These post arent matching up 

 

I'm surprised Rodgers record isnt closer to Brady's if that's accurate 

 

[Chester McFloppy]

I just went to PFF and sorted the games by score and added them up. Only had one cup of coffee this morning so maybe I miscounted?

 

[Lovetohate3000]

 
Source?

These post arent matching up 

 

I'm surprised Rodgers record isnt closer to Brady's if that's accurate 

was looking at this. 

13-15	21-1	34-0	19-0	11-2	16-1	15-4	9-1	6-3	7-0	6-1
10-12	16-0	14-0	8-0	5-0	10-0	14-1	7-1	3-0	5-0	3-0
22-24	18-8	22-13	15-13	7-3	12-15	5-13	12-3	6-9	4-3	5-2
16-18	27-5	30-3	26-3	11-1	16-4	10-3	12-3	5-3	4-0	8-1
25-27	11-9	11-17	10-15	6-3	4-10	5-6	3-6	2-9	3-0	0-0
1-3	9-0	10-0	4-0	6-0	7-0	4-0	2-0	2-0	3-0	3-0
28-30	11-10	8-10	6-12	1-6	3-3	3-1	3-5	3-1	2-2	0-6
31-33	5-5	6-11	6-9	1-1	3-10	1-4	3-7	1-3	2-1	0-0
19-21	27-6	29-8	13-9	14-8	11-5	4-4	12-9	4-2	2-1	4-3
7-9	22-0	11-0	8-0	7-1	10-0	11-0	9-0	1-0	2-0	9-0
40+	0-4	1-11	0-9	0-4	0-13	0-4	0-7	0-5	1-9	0-0
0	7-0	1-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	1-0	2-0	0-0	1-0	2-0
34-36	2-5	5-8	2-11	2-4	3-10	2-5	1-6	1-6	0-1	0-1
37-39	1-2	1-9	0-8	2-6	0-9	0-0	1-4	1-3	0-1	0-0
4-6	4-0	7-0	4-0	0-0	3-0	4-0	1-0	0-0	0-0	2-0

[th=""]Opp Score[/th][th=""]Tom Brady[/th][th=""]Peyton Manning[/th][th=""]Drew Brees[/th][th=""]Aaron Rodgers[/th][th=""]Eli Manning[/th][th=""]Joe Flacco[/th][th=""]Tony Romo[/th][th=""]Matthew Stafford[/th][th=""]Andrew Luck[/th][th=""]Russell Wilson[/th]

 

[elpablo21]

I just went to PFF and sorted the games by score and added them up. Only had one cup of coffee this morning so maybe I miscounted?

That part of the paid subscription territory?

 

 
Source?

These post arent matching up 

 

I'm surprised Rodgers record isnt closer to Brady's if that's accurate 

was looking at this. 

13-15	21-1	34-0	19-0	11-2	16-1	15-4	9-1	6-3	7-0	6-1
10-12	16-0	14-0	8-0	5-0	10-0	14-1	7-1	3-0	5-0	3-0
22-24	18-8	22-13	15-13	7-3	12-15	5-13	12-3	6-9	4-3	5-2
16-18	27-5	30-3	26-3	11-1	16-4	10-3	12-3	5-3	4-0	8-1
25-27	11-9	11-17	10-15	6-3	4-10	5-6	3-6	2-9	3-0	0-0
1-3	9-0	10-0	4-0	6-0	7-0	4-0	2-0	2-0	3-0	3-0
28-30	11-10	8-10	6-12	1-6	3-3	3-1	3-5	3-1	2-2	0-6
31-33	5-5	6-11	6-9	1-1	3-10	1-4	3-7	1-3	2-1	0-0
19-21	27-6	29-8	13-9	14-8	11-5	4-4	12-9	4-2	2-1	4-3
7-9	22-0	11-0	8-0	7-1	10-0	11-0	9-0	1-0	2-0	9-0
40+	0-4	1-11	0-9	0-4	0-13	0-4	0-7	0-5	1-9	0-0
0	7-0	1-0	2-0	2-0	2-0	1-0	2-0	0-0	1-0	2-0
34-36	2-5	5-8	2-11	2-4	3-10	2-5	1-6	1-6	0-1	0-1
37-39	1-2	1-9	0-8	2-6	0-9	0-0	1-4	1-3	0-1	0-0
4-6	4-0	7-0	4-0	0-0	3-0	4-0	1-0	0-0	0-0	2-0

[th=""]Opp Score[/th][th=""]Tom Brady[/th][th=""]Peyton Manning[/th][th=""]Drew Brees[/th][th=""]Aaron Rodgers[/th][th=""]Eli Manning[/th][th=""]Joe Flacco[/th][th=""]Tony Romo[/th][th=""]Matthew Stafford[/th][th=""]Andrew Luck[/th][th=""]Russell Wilson[/th]

Thanks.

At least he's good in the 22-24 range.

Stafford record for 28-30 range, hmmm

Like I said before for Russ, they need to gradually improve on the passing scheme, it is way too simplistic and predictable at this point and stop being so hesitant on pulling the trigger

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Errr not PFF, Pro Football Reference. Gamelogs -> Sort.

Agree about the passing game. Right now it's like they just expect Russ to run around for 7 seconds until Baldwin/Kearse are somehow wide open and fling it up.

 

[mister friendly]

Russell Wilson needs to play better.

I've only seen 3 of the Seahawks games but he's looked average in them. He needs to cut down on his turnovers too.

See how that works?

You can like a guy not cape for him and make every excuse in the book for him when he's not playing good.