QB THREAD - 2x quarterbacky award winner: Lamar Jackson

I find it is hard to speculate on that type of stuff and projected stats because IMO it doesn't follow a linear path
 
 
Thought this stat was interesting...

Aaron Rodgers is 26th in pass attempts per game. Yet he still putting up wild numbers. Imagine if he gets to throw as much as Brees, Luck, and Manning. 
Always been like that with him... Hes not gonna put up stupid attempts and yards... But he'll still throw up the TD numbers like he was chucking it 40x per game.

Peyton, Brees, Stafford types throw the ball on some ridiculous regularity. 

He throws TD's on 6.6% of his passes (career) compared to Peyton 5.9... Hes on'y behind dudes that played in the 1950's
1.Sid Luckman+7.9%  1939-1950 chi
2.Frankie Albert7.4%  1946-1952 sfo
3.Frank Ryan7.0%  1958-1970 3TM
4.Otto Graham+6.6%  1946-1955 cle
 Aaron Rodgers  (31)6.6%  2005-2014 gnb
6.Len Dawson+6.4%  1957-1975 3TM
7.Daryle Lamonica6.3%  1963-1974 2TM
8.Sammy Baugh+6.2%  1937-1952 was
9.Charlie Conerly6.1%  1948-1961 nyg
10.Bob Waterfield+6.0%  1945-1952 ram
 Earl Morrall6.0%  1956-1976 6TM
 Sonny Jurgensen+6.0%  1957-1974 2TM
 Norm Van Brocklin+6.0%  1949-1960 2TM
14.Peyton Manning  (38)5.9%  1998-2014 2TM
 George Blanda+5.9%  1949-1975 4TM
16.Don Meredith5.8%  1960-1968 dal
 Eddie LeBaron5.8%  1952-1963 2TM
18.Bob Griese+5.6%  1967-1980 mia
 Johnny Unitas+5.6%  1956-1973 2TM
 Steve Young+5.6%  1985-1999 2TM
 Tony Romo  (34)5.6%  2004-2014 dal
22.Y.A. Tittle+5.5%  1948-1964 3TM
 Tom Brady  (37)5.5%  2000-2014 nwe
 Philip Rivers  (33)5.5%  2004-2014 sdg
25.Terry Bradshaw+5.4%  1970-1983 pit
 Tom Flores5.4%  1960-1969 3TM
27.Babe Parilli5.3%  1952-1969 5TM
 Drew Brees  (35)5.3%  2001-2014 2TM
[th=""]Rank[/th][th=""]Player (age), + - HOFer,  Bold  - Active[/th][th=""]TD%[/th][th=""]Years[/th][th=""]Teams[/th]
Also top 3 behind the old timers in Yards/attempt
1.Otto Graham+9.0  1946-1955 cle
2.Sid Luckman+8.4  1939-1950 chi
3.Aaron Rodgers  (31)8.2  2005-2014 gnb
 Norm Van Brocklin+8.2  1949-1960 2TM
5.Steve Young+8.0  1985-1999 2TM
6.Kurt Warner7.9  1998-2009 3TM
 Philip Rivers  (33)7.9  2004-2014 sdg
 Tony Romo  (34)7.9  2004-2014 dal
 Ben Roethlisberger  (32)7.9  2004-2014 pit
 Ed Brown7.9  1954-1965 3TM
11.Bart Starr+7.8  1956-1971 gnb
 Johnny Unitas+7.8  1956-1973 2TM
13.Earl Morrall7.7  1956-1976 6TM
 Peyton Manning  (38)7.7  1998-2014 2TM
[th=""]Rank[/th][th=""]Player (age), + - HOFer,  Bold  - Active[/th][th=""]Y/A[/th][th=""]Years[/th][th=""]Teams[/th]
All while throwing the least amount of INT's per attempt
1.Aaron Rodgers  (31)1.7%  2005-2014 gnb
2.Tom Brady  (37)2.0%  2000-2014 nwe
3.Neil O'Donnell2.1%  1991-2003 4TM
4.Sam Bradford  (27)2.2%  2010-2014 ram
 Donovan McNabb2.2%  1999-2011 3TM
6.Jeff Garcia2.3%  1999-2011 6TM
 Andrew Luck  (25)2.3%  2012-2014 clt
 Mark Brunell2.3%  1994-2011 5TM
 Matt Ryan  (29)2.3%  2008-2014 atl
10.David Garrard  (36)2.4%  2002-2013 2TM
 Jason Campbell  (33)2.4%  2006-2014 5TM
12.Steve Bono2.5%  1985-1999 7TM
 Rich Gannon2.5%  1987-2004 4TM
 Joe Flacco  (29)2.5%  2008-2014 rav
 Alex Smith  (30)2.5%  2005-2014 2TM
 Kyle Orton  (32)2.5%  2005-2014 5TM
 Philip Rivers  (33)2.5%  2004-2014 sdg
18.Peyton Manning  (38)2.6%  1998-2014 2TM
[th=""]Rank[/th][th=""]Player (age), + - HOFer,  Bold  - Active[/th][th=""]Int%[/th][th=""]Years[/th][th=""]Teams[/th]
 
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Heres career attempts per game list:
1.Matthew Stafford  (26)40.5  2009-2014 det
2.Andrew Luck  (25)38.8  2012-2014 clt
3.Drew Brees  (35)36.8  2001-2014 2TM
4.Sam Bradford  (27)35.9  2010-2014 ram
5.Peyton Manning  (38)35.4  1998-2014 2TM
6.Matt Ryan  (29)35.2  2008-2014 atl
7.Drew Bledsoe34.6  1993-2006 3TM
8.Dan Marino+34.5  1983-1999 mia
9.Tom Brady  (37)34.3  2000-2014 nwe
10.Carson Palmer  (35)34.1  2004-2014 3TM
11.Brett Favre33.7  1991-2010 4TM
12.Andy Dalton  (27)33.5  2011-2014 cin
13.Josh Freeman  (26)33.1  2009-2013 2TM
14.Marc Bulger33.0  2002-2009 ram
15.Eli Manning  (33)32.9  2004-2014 nyg
16.Kurt Warner32.8  1998-2009 3TM
 Warren Moon+32.8  1984-2000 4TM
18.Joe Flacco  (29)32.6  2008-2014 rav
19.Jay Cutler  (31)32.2  2006-2014 2TM
 Donovan McNabb32.2  1999-2011 3TM
21.Aaron Brooks31.9  2000-2006 2TM
22.Kerry Collins31.6  1995-2011 6TM
23.Jon Kitna  (42)31.5  1997-2013 4TM
24.Aaron Rodgers  (31)31.4  2005-2014 gnb
[th=""]Rank[/th][th=""]Player (age), + - HOFer,  Bold  - Active[/th][th=""]A/G[/th][th=""]Years[/th][th=""]Teams[/th]
 
i mean it's four attempts between #5 and #24 on that list. i don't think that's a huge difference IMO
 
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the other stat on INTs per attempt is more impressive IMO...especially considering he chucks it downfield a ton
 
i mean it's four attempts between #5 and #24 on that list. i don't think that's a huge difference IMO
I'm not trying to play the hypothetical of "if he threw it more then: results"... Just pointing out that he's always been less attempts guy compared to Brees, Staff, Peyton and even Brady... Especially now though since he actually has a running game.

Just for fun and to contradict what I just said: 4.5 more attempts per game = 72 attempts per year... TD rate of 6.6% adds 5 TD's per 16 games to pace and 600 yards. 
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i mean it's four attempts between #5 and #24 on that list. i don't think that's a huge difference IMO
I'm not trying to play the hypothetical of "if he threw it more then: results"... Just pointing out that he's always been less attempts guy compared to Brees, Staff, Peyton and even Brady... Especially now though since he actually has a running game.

Just for fun and to contradict what I just said: 4.5 more attempts per game = 72 attempts per year... TD rate of 6.6% adds 5 TD's per 16 games to pace and 600 yards. :lol 8o


goes both ways...you're assuming his numbers don't slide with more attempts, of course :lol
 
 
 
i mean it's four attempts between #5 and #24 on that list. i don't think that's a huge difference IMO
I'm not trying to play the hypothetical of "if he threw it more then: results"... Just pointing out that he's always been less attempts guy compared to Brees, Staff, Peyton and even Brady... Especially now though since he actually has a running game.

Just for fun and to contradict what I just said: 4.5 more attempts per game = 72 attempts per year... TD rate of 6.6% adds 5 TD's per 16 games to pace and 600 yards. 
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goes both ways...you're assuming his numbers don't slide with more attempts, of course
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Right, I agree with DMX that you shouldn't really play that game. LIS "just for fun".

AR's numbers without speculation are gaudy enough.
 
I don't focus too much on the numbers anymore unless it's to serve a purpose during discussions. It's like when dudes in MLB were hitting 50 HR's like it was nothing.
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 This **** means less and less every year.

Aaron Rodgers = best in the world.
 
#parktheCarr

He threw Moore under the bus vs New England.
Threw Homes under the bus vs San Diego.

Now our "classy" QB is throwing DMac under the bus for another of his bone headed plays.

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Q: What happened on the pass to Khalif Barnes (left tackle)?

Carr:“On that play, that’s right where ‘D-Mac’ [Darren McFadden]’s check-down should be, so if you see my eyes are looking to the left and obviously I’m not looking at the rush, so I go to throw it, it wasn’t there. So, I felt obviously the pressure coming, tucked the ball to protect it and then all of a sudden I just saw out of the corner of my eye, this guy standing by himself, facing me, and so I obviously assumed in my head that it was ‘D-Mac’, so I turned to go throw it and in my head as soon as I threw it, I was like, ‘Please knock it down.’ That’s just one of those things. It’s happened to me in high school, it’s happened in college. It’s just one of those thing, you know where your guy’s at, you react. Everything is happening so fast. It’s just one of those things. Obviously, where we’re at right now, it just looks ugly, but it’s just one of those things that happens.”

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The game is too fast for this kid.
He cant throw more than 5yds per play and panics when he feels the rush.
He reminds me of Matt Leinart.


Carr lovers preach patience cuz Manning went 3-13 or something with many INTs but Manning was putting up a ton of passing yards. Carr lead our team to 90yds of total offense yesterday with two interceptions LOL

#parktheCarr

Start McGloin!
Start Winston!
Start Mariota!
Start Bobby Bouche!
Start Uncle Rico!

Start anyone but Carr.
 
Wait........

If I read those lists right..........

Andrew Luck, 6th, in NFL history, lowest INT rates per attempt?

But, but, but.....Andrew Luck needs to cut down on the interceptions, doesn't he? 8o

I'm so confused.


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Anyhoo, I really wish the Bears coulda scored a couple early TD's and let Rodgers play the full 60 minutes. 10 TD's was in play.
 
#parktheCarr

He threw Moore under the bus vs New England.
Threw Homes under the bus vs San Diego.

Now our "classy" QB is throwing DMac under the bus for another of his bone headed plays.

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Q: What happened on the pass to Khalif Barnes (left tackle)?

Carr:“On that play, that’s right where ‘D-Mac’ [Darren McFadden]’s check-down should be, so if you see my eyes are looking to the left and obviously I’m not looking at the rush, so I go to throw it, it wasn’t there. So, I felt obviously the pressure coming, tucked the ball to protect it and then all of a sudden I just saw out of the corner of my eye, this guy standing by himself, facing me, and so I obviously assumed in my head that it was ‘D-Mac’, so I turned to go throw it and in my head as soon as I threw it, I was like, ‘Please knock it down.’ That’s just one of those things. It’s happened to me in high school, it’s happened in college. It’s just one of those thing, you know where your guy’s at, you react. Everything is happening so fast. It’s just one of those things. Obviously, where we’re at right now, it just looks ugly, but it’s just one of those things that happens.”

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The game is too fast for this kid.
He cant throw more than 5yds per play and panics when he feels the rush.
He reminds me of Matt Leinart.


Carr lovers preach patience cuz Manning went 3-13 or something with many INTs but Manning was putting up a ton of passing yards. Carr lead our team to 90yds of total offense yesterday with two interceptions LOL

#parktheCarr

Start McGloin!
Start Winston!
Start Mariota!
Start Bobby Bouche!
Start Uncle Rico!

Start anyone but Carr.

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"Lovers"
 
 
#parktheCarr

He threw Moore under the bus vs New England.
Threw Homes under the bus vs San Diego.

Now our "classy" QB is throwing DMac under the bus for another of his bone headed plays.

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Q: What happened on the pass to Khalif Barnes (left tackle)?

Carr:“On that play, that’s right where ‘D-Mac’ [Darren McFadden]’s check-down should be, so if you see my eyes are looking to the left and obviously I’m not looking at the rush, so I go to throw it, it wasn’t there. So, I felt obviously the pressure coming, tucked the ball to protect it and then all of a sudden I just saw out of the corner of my eye, this guy standing by himself, facing me, and so I obviously assumed in my head that it was ‘D-Mac’, so I turned to go throw it and in my head as soon as I threw it, I was like, ‘Please knock it down.’ That’s just one of those things. It’s happened to me in high school, it’s happened in college. It’s just one of those thing, you know where your guy’s at, you react. Everything is happening so fast. It’s just one of those things. Obviously, where we’re at right now, it just looks ugly, but it’s just one of those things that happens.”

---


The game is too fast for this kid.
He cant throw more than 5yds per play and panics when he feels the rush.
He reminds me of Matt Leinart.


Carr lovers preach patience cuz Manning went 3-13 or something with many INTs but Manning was putting up a ton of passing yards. Carr lead our team to 90yds of total offense yesterday with two interceptions LOL

#parktheCarr

Start McGloin!
Start Winston!
Start Mariota!
Start Bobby Bouche!
Start Uncle Rico!

Start anyone but Carr.
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"Lovers"
Isn't AJ a Raider fan?
 
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