question, why do black people think their culture is "the most emulated"

[trhee]

Not even talking about culture. All these examples are just fashion statements.

 

[north dade represent]

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

black people invented civilization that's why

Hmm.. Interesting.

 

[north dade represent]

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

black people invented civilization that's why

Hmm.. Interesting.

 

[a55a5in11]

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

QFT

 

[a55a5in11]

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

QFT

 

[usainboltisfast]

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

 

[usainboltisfast]

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

 

[whiterails]

Originally Posted by North Dade Represent

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

black people invented civilization that's why

Hmm.. Interesting.

Interesting but false.
Depending on your exact definition of civilization, but generally speaking civilization arose independently in several areas of the world, including Egypt, the Middle East, the Indus Valley (India) and along the Yellow River (China).

 

[whiterails]

Originally Posted by North Dade Represent

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

black people invented civilization that's why

Hmm.. Interesting.

Interesting but false.
Depending on your exact definition of civilization, but generally speaking civilization arose independently in several areas of the world, including Egypt, the Middle East, the Indus Valley (India) and along the Yellow River (China).

 

[soltheman]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

All of those groups were initially small. But I don't think that trying to be white is appropriate. I think back in those days, if you weren't apart of the movement you were just trying to stay low. Out of sight and out of mind.

 

[soltheman]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

All of those groups were initially small. But I don't think that trying to be white is appropriate. I think back in those days, if you weren't apart of the movement you were just trying to stay low. Out of sight and out of mind.

 

[sevit86]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

Your pointing at one specific movement, don't generalize.

Thats like saying the World is copying Chinese people because they created gunpowder. Or that wine makers in California
are trying to act "French" because they grow grapes and drink wine similar to the customs in France.

One thing I noticed on this board (or in society in general) is that if something that could be perceived as offensive to one race
but is not geared towards African-Americans then its brushed under the rug, but if someone made a comment that even "remotely"
might insinuate a racially fueled comment towards the African-American community, everyone is up in arms.

kidplay's remark is sound because there are people who "act" perceptibly outside there race even today. though personally i believe
we are all human beings. and acting outside ones race is a ludicrous way of thinking.

Louis Armstrong was, in his hay day, ostracized by the black community for playing music that was embraced by the white community.

usainboltisfast if you wish to make an argument on something as sensitive as race may i suggest you back your arguments up with sound debates and dont pigeon hole yourself by saying things with out backing them up.

edit: or at least try to look at the bigger picture

 

[sevit86]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

Your pointing at one specific movement, don't generalize.

Thats like saying the World is copying Chinese people because they created gunpowder. Or that wine makers in California
are trying to act "French" because they grow grapes and drink wine similar to the customs in France.

One thing I noticed on this board (or in society in general) is that if something that could be perceived as offensive to one race
but is not geared towards African-Americans then its brushed under the rug, but if someone made a comment that even "remotely"
might insinuate a racially fueled comment towards the African-American community, everyone is up in arms.

kidplay's remark is sound because there are people who "act" perceptibly outside there race even today. though personally i believe
we are all human beings. and acting outside ones race is a ludicrous way of thinking.

Louis Armstrong was, in his hay day, ostracized by the black community for playing music that was embraced by the white community.

usainboltisfast if you wish to make an argument on something as sensitive as race may i suggest you back your arguments up with sound debates and dont pigeon hole yourself by saying things with out backing them up.

edit: or at least try to look at the bigger picture

 

[bleach]

 

[bleach]

 

[illwill8710]

Originally Posted by whiterails

Originally Posted by North Dade Represent

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

black people invented civilization that's why

Hmm.. Interesting.

Interesting but false.
Depending on your exact definition of civilization, but generally speaking civilization arose independently in several areas of the world, including Egypt, the Middle East, the Indus Valley (India) and along the Yellow River (China).

No. Civilization began in Africa. The oldest artifacts of civilization and people are all found in Egypt (which was populated by nothing but black people at the time) and West Africa. The civilizations of the middle east, Indian and China have also been traced back to Africa as well.

It is interesting and recommend researching it. Start with some of Cheikh Anta Diop 's work.

 

[illwill8710]

Originally Posted by whiterails

Originally Posted by North Dade Represent

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

black people invented civilization that's why

Hmm.. Interesting.

Interesting but false.
Depending on your exact definition of civilization, but generally speaking civilization arose independently in several areas of the world, including Egypt, the Middle East, the Indus Valley (India) and along the Yellow River (China).

No. Civilization began in Africa. The oldest artifacts of civilization and people are all found in Egypt (which was populated by nothing but black people at the time) and West Africa. The civilizations of the middle east, Indian and China have also been traced back to Africa as well.

It is interesting and recommend researching it. Start with some of Cheikh Anta Diop 's work.

 

[usainboltisfast]

Originally Posted by sevit86

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

Your pointing at one specific movement, don't generalize.

Thats like saying the World is copying Chinese people because they created gunpowder. Or that wine makers in California
are trying to act "French" because they grow grapes and drink wine similar to the customs in France.

One thing I noticed on this board (or in society in general) is that if something that could be perceived as offensive to one race
but is not geared towards African-Americans then its brushed under the rug, but if someone made a comment that even "remotely"
might insinuate a racially fueled comment towards the African-American community, everyone is up in arms.

kidplay's remark is sound because there are people who "act" perceptibly outside there race even today. though personally i believe
we are all human beings. and acting outside ones race is a ludicrous way of thinking.

Louis Armstrong was, in his hay day, ostracized by the black community for playing music that was embraced by the white community.

usainboltisfast if you wish to make an argument on something as sensitive as race may i suggest you back your arguments up with sound debates and dont pigeon hole yourself by saying things with out backing them up.

edit: or at least try to look at the bigger picture

One specific movement? Are you insinuating that organizations like SNCC and the SCLC tried to promote white assimilation in the black community? What kidplay said was 100% wrong.

 

[usainboltisfast]

Originally Posted by sevit86

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by kidplay

for every person emulating the african american culture, there are a ton of ppl who are emulating any stereotypical traits of a race. 
it's probably more prevalent in the major urban cities, but US is a lot larger than nyc, sf, la, chicago and miami.....

also even if this were the case, this has been only a recent phenomenon in the past 2 decades with the growing popularity of 'hip hop/urban' culture (which is basically what ppl mean when they say african american culture)

during segregation, in the 50's/60's it was black ppl who tried to be more 'white'

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

Your pointing at one specific movement, don't generalize.

Thats like saying the World is copying Chinese people because they created gunpowder. Or that wine makers in California
are trying to act "French" because they grow grapes and drink wine similar to the customs in France.

One thing I noticed on this board (or in society in general) is that if something that could be perceived as offensive to one race
but is not geared towards African-Americans then its brushed under the rug, but if someone made a comment that even "remotely"
might insinuate a racially fueled comment towards the African-American community, everyone is up in arms.

kidplay's remark is sound because there are people who "act" perceptibly outside there race even today. though personally i believe
we are all human beings. and acting outside ones race is a ludicrous way of thinking.

Louis Armstrong was, in his hay day, ostracized by the black community for playing music that was embraced by the white community.

usainboltisfast if you wish to make an argument on something as sensitive as race may i suggest you back your arguments up with sound debates and dont pigeon hole yourself by saying things with out backing them up.

edit: or at least try to look at the bigger picture

One specific movement? Are you insinuating that organizations like SNCC and the SCLC tried to promote white assimilation in the black community? What kidplay said was 100% wrong.

 

[jdiggs]

Mabey dudes wear du-rags to train long hair back.. thats what I was told when I grew out my hair.

And imo style or culture is defined by region.. not race nowadays.

 

[jdiggs]

Mabey dudes wear du-rags to train long hair back.. thats what I was told when I grew out my hair.

And imo style or culture is defined by region.. not race nowadays.

 

[sevit86]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by sevit86

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

Your pointing at one specific movement, don't generalize.

Thats like saying the World is copying Chinese people because they created gunpowder. Or that wine makers in California
are trying to act "French" because they grow grapes and drink wine similar to the customs in France.

One thing I noticed on this board (or in society in general) is that if something that could be perceived as offensive to one race
but is not geared towards African-Americans then its brushed under the rug, but if someone made a comment that even "remotely"
might insinuate a racially fueled comment towards the African-American community, everyone is up in arms.

kidplay's remark is sound because there are people who "act" perceptibly outside there race even today. though personally i believe
we are all human beings. and acting outside ones race is a ludicrous way of thinking.

Louis Armstrong was, in his hay day, ostracized by the black community for playing music that was embraced by the white community.

usainboltisfast if you wish to make an argument on something as sensitive as race may i suggest you back your arguments up with sound debates and dont pigeon hole yourself by saying things with out backing them up.

edit: or at least try to look at the bigger picture

One specific movement? Are you insinuating that organizations like SNCC and the SCLC tried to promote white assimilation in the black community? What kidplay said was 100% wrong.

Your saying the "entire" black community was this way during that time period? he was generalizing an ethnic group and so are you. your both arguing but from opposite sides of the same pie (figuratively).  you said in your first post
 
"You had groups like the Black Panthers "

which is what i was referring to. 

SNCC and SCLC are other specific "movements" as well. But do you speak for the entire Black community by saying during the 1900's you know how every Black man and women acted?

kidplay was correct in saying that Blacks "acted" white. but your also correct in saying others went militant and others found peaceful means of expressing their outrage during that time period.

Everyone has an opinion in this day and age, but don't just jump to conclusions blindly following what you believe. and don't just research what you believe but research things you aren't comfortable with so that you can back up your views with counter arguments as well.

 

[sevit86]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

Originally Posted by sevit86

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

explain please. You probably missed the entire Black Power movement or more than likely your teacher didn't even teach you it. You had groups like the Black Panthers that created their OWN social welfare not needing white people. Black panthers started their own schools, ambulance programs, feed millions, and did it with out the support of the general white population (plently of whites did help with the movement though see Marlon Brando).

Your pointing at one specific movement, don't generalize.

Thats like saying the World is copying Chinese people because they created gunpowder. Or that wine makers in California
are trying to act "French" because they grow grapes and drink wine similar to the customs in France.

One thing I noticed on this board (or in society in general) is that if something that could be perceived as offensive to one race
but is not geared towards African-Americans then its brushed under the rug, but if someone made a comment that even "remotely"
might insinuate a racially fueled comment towards the African-American community, everyone is up in arms.

kidplay's remark is sound because there are people who "act" perceptibly outside there race even today. though personally i believe
we are all human beings. and acting outside ones race is a ludicrous way of thinking.

Louis Armstrong was, in his hay day, ostracized by the black community for playing music that was embraced by the white community.

usainboltisfast if you wish to make an argument on something as sensitive as race may i suggest you back your arguments up with sound debates and dont pigeon hole yourself by saying things with out backing them up.

edit: or at least try to look at the bigger picture

One specific movement? Are you insinuating that organizations like SNCC and the SCLC tried to promote white assimilation in the black community? What kidplay said was 100% wrong.

Your saying the "entire" black community was this way during that time period? he was generalizing an ethnic group and so are you. your both arguing but from opposite sides of the same pie (figuratively).  you said in your first post
 
"You had groups like the Black Panthers "

which is what i was referring to. 

SNCC and SCLC are other specific "movements" as well. But do you speak for the entire Black community by saying during the 1900's you know how every Black man and women acted?

kidplay was correct in saying that Blacks "acted" white. but your also correct in saying others went militant and others found peaceful means of expressing their outrage during that time period.

Everyone has an opinion in this day and age, but don't just jump to conclusions blindly following what you believe. and don't just research what you believe but research things you aren't comfortable with so that you can back up your views with counter arguments as well.

 

[p0tat0 5alad]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

One specific movement? Are you insinuating that organizations like SNCC and the SCLC tried to promote white assimilation in the black community? What kidplay said was 100% wrong.

kidplay poorly worded his statement and soltheman clarified it by saying that they wanted to "lay low, out sight and out of mind." And for the record, "acting white" doesn't necessarily mean assimilating. You can still retain your "cultural identity" even during though you are "acting a certain race". Irregardless, can we please talk about the discussion at hand instead of getting side tracked? 

 

[p0tat0 5alad]

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

One specific movement? Are you insinuating that organizations like SNCC and the SCLC tried to promote white assimilation in the black community? What kidplay said was 100% wrong.

kidplay poorly worded his statement and soltheman clarified it by saying that they wanted to "lay low, out sight and out of mind." And for the record, "acting white" doesn't necessarily mean assimilating. You can still retain your "cultural identity" even during though you are "acting a certain race". Irregardless, can we please talk about the discussion at hand instead of getting side tracked?