Originally Posted by Diego
RiKaN HaVoK wrote:
what a ******ed statement .....
You MAD?Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK
Originally Posted by Diego
RiKaN HaVoK wrote:
what a ******ed statement .....
It's a little underhanded but it's true. Almost every Puerto Rican I know owns a PR flag, a beaded necklace flag, a tattoo, a CD with the PR flag hanging from their rear view, and/or a couple t-shirts.
Why would you get upset? That's a step up.
when did I said you instulted me to make a point? My dude - just stop it .. just stop it .. You said the statement was fairly true and if I wasarguing because I was puertorican .. then I proceded to tell you what I was .. so .. SMH ...
Originally Posted by MECKS
that's like this lady at the store i work at. i swear she offended me so bad i was about to !*$!@ slap her
i was like damn. she really being racist. i don't know if i took it wrong but this is how the dialogue went:
*looks at my name tag*
"david?, how did you end up with david? I'm suprised your name isn't jose, i know so many jose's"
ME: (i fake chuckled to play it off but like i said i was heated) "i guess my parents were just creative"
her: "yeah i guess"
Me: "either that or they read the bible a lot, do you ever read it?"
*asks how much her total is*
i giveto myself for making her think about what she said, AND making her feel hella uncomfortable
but damn, wasn't that racist or is it just me?
and like said above... if u went up to a dude and called him female he'd be mad... that's why people get upset. Your calling them something they are not, nor represent
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]and honestly, in the latin world, mexicans/cubans are seen as the poorest/dirtyest[/color] . i don't know why i noticed this a lot growing up. and i agree with the puerto rican pride thing. I mean i rep my mexican heritage to the fullest, but puerto ricans are just crazy about it like they are the best/finest/graceful creatures on earth.. going as far as getting borricua tatted on them etc.
i realize the irony in my talking about the pride of reppin ur race (being nicknamed mex) but yeah... just my 2 cents.
So what youre saying is that Puerto Ricans tend to think they are somehow better or above other hispanic groups?Originally Posted by SuperAntigen
Originally Posted by MECKS
that's like this lady at the store i work at. i swear she offended me so bad i was about to !*$!@ slap her
i was like damn. she really being racist. i don't know if i took it wrong but this is how the dialogue went:
*looks at my name tag*
"david?, how did you end up with david? I'm suprised your name isn't jose, i know so many jose's"
ME: (i fake chuckled to play it off but like i said i was heated) "i guess my parents were just creative"
her: "yeah i guess"
Me: "either that or they read the bible a lot, do you ever read it?"
*asks how much her total is*
i giveto myself for making her think about what she said, AND making her feel hella uncomfortable
but damn, wasn't that racist or is it just me?
and like said above... if u went up to a dude and called him female he'd be mad... that's why people get upset. Your calling them something they are not, nor represent
and honestly, in the latin world, mexicans/cubans are seen as the poorest/dirtyest . i don't know why i noticed this a lot growing up. and i agree with the puerto rican pride thing. I mean i rep my mexican heritage to the fullest, but puerto ricans are just crazy about it like they are the best/finest/graceful creatures on earth.. going as far as getting borricua tatted on them etc.
i realize the irony in my talking about the pride of reppin ur race (being nicknamed mex) but yeah... just my 2 cents.
I wouldn't say she was "racist" per-se, especially when the issue here has NOTHING to do with race, or nationality or ethnicity for that matter, and everything to do with her ignorance and obtuseness stemming from, simply stated, the privilege afforded by an ethnocentric perspective.
Calling a male a female is NOT the same as calling someone the wrong name--sorry....
Lastly, imo, I think the real issue here--why different nationalities get offended when they are mistaking for another-- has to do with the fact that within the Latin community itself, there exists this fictional hierarchy of superiority and inferiority complexes attached to the various Hispanic nationalities .
Growing up in the Castle Hill section of the Bronx, where to a large extent my Hispanic friends were largely comprised of Puerto-Ricans, I was taught indirectly that Puerto-Ricans were better than every other hispanic group. I was taught that Dominicans were jealous of Puerto-Ricans and with respect to the aforementioned hierarchy, in relation to Puerto-Ricans, were on an inferior level. And then even amongst members inherent to these two groups, I learned that the biggest sin you could commit against them was to refer to them, jokingly or insultingly, as Mexican. Why?--because, well, as Mecks already pointed out, Mexicans were viewed as the "lowest".
Originally Posted by Diego
SuperAntigen wrote:
MECKS wrote:
that's like this lady at the store i work at. i swear she offended me so bad i was about to !*$!@ slap her
i was like damn. she really being racist. i don't know if i took it wrong but this is how the dialogue went:
*looks at my name tag*
"david?, how did you end up with david? I'm suprised your name isn't jose, i know so many jose's"
ME: (i fake chuckled to play it off but like i said i was heated) "i guess my parents were just creative"
her: "yeah i guess"
Me: "either that or they read the bible a lot, do you ever read it?"
*asks how much her total is*
i giveto myself for making her think about what she said, AND making her feel hella uncomfortable
but damn, wasn't that racist or is it just me?
and like said above... if u went up to a dude and called him female he'd be mad... that's why people get upset. Your calling them something they are not, nor represent
and honestly, in the latin world, mexicans/cubans are seen as the poorest/dirtyest . i don't know why i noticed this a lot growing up. and i agree with the puerto rican pride thing. I mean i rep my mexican heritage to the fullest, but puerto ricans are just crazy about it like they are the best/finest/graceful creatures on earth.. going as far as getting borricua tatted on them etc.
i realize the irony in my talking about the pride of reppin ur race (being nicknamed mex) but yeah... just my 2 cents.
The difference is that as a result of immigration to this county and this country's simplistic categorization of all things that lie outsideof the "mainstream," these varied "Hispanic" nationalities are lumped into one entire category/group (aka "Hispanic,""Latino," etc). They are now viewed as a monolithic culture when in reality, they have little, if any relation to one another based on culture,history and customs. This goes for newly arrived immigrants and even first or second generation offspring who continue to view themselves in the model of theirimmigrant experience rather than full-blown American, which in reality is what they should be referring to themselves as rather than some hyphenated identity.Originally Posted by SuperAntigen
I wouldn't say she was "racist" per-se, especially when the issue here has NOTHING to do with race, or nationality or ethnicity for that matter, and everything to do with her ignorance and obtuseness stemming from, simply stated, the privilege afforded by an ethnocentric perspective.
Calling a male a female is NOT the same as calling someone the wrong name--sorry....
Lastly, imo, I think the real issue here--why different [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]nationalities[/color] get offended when they are mistaking for another-- has to do with the fact that within the Latin community itself, there exists this fictional hierarchy of superiority and inferiority complexes attached to the various Hispanic [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]nationalities[/color] .
While a small fraction within any Hispanic population may indeed have legitimate pride for all the right reasons, and this is often with members from the older generation, I am fairly of the opinion, based on past and current impressions, that the great majority have pride for all the wrong reasons--see previously mentioned superiority complex.
Just like it's cool to have the latest Jordans, I think members of the "new generation" find it cool to claim to be Puerto Rican/Dominican/Cuban/and Mexican for superficial reasons. Even so, these subscriptions are all the more vain (once again, imo) especially when you realize that all they're doing is repping [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]nationalities[/color]--which is also, to an extent, a construction of fictional proportions. Why?
--because ethnically speaking, aren't many of the Caribbean Hispanics the same, however variable the percentages of African, Native American Indian, and Spanish blood, they may have? And can the same not be said about many of the Southern American Hispanics, with some exceptions for Brazilians and any other non-spanish descended populations, and with some special consideration for the variance among the various South American Indian groups?
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Well she was the only Guatemalan girl I've ever seen so I honestly didn't know the difference. And I broke up with her, she didn'tbreak up with me.Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK
Originally Posted by DaNiKeRhiNo
Yeah I noticed that too, I was talking to my ex Diana the other day who is Guatemalan and Mexican and I mistakenly said "damn I love your Salvadorian skin complexion" and she hung up the phone on me. She's still a got a little heated when I brought it up today.
Anyways, I'm black and filipino and people mistaken me for Puerto Rican all the time (except for black and filipinos).
come on dude you called your ex girl salvadorian .. like are you serious????
no wonder why she's your ex ..
Originally Posted by infamousod
what a retarted statement .....
Originally Posted by Black Jesus
Originally Posted by infamousod
what a retarted statement .....
It's a little underhanded but it's true. Almost every Puerto Rican I know owns a PR flag, a beaded necklace flag, a tattoo, a CD with the PR flag hanging from their rear view, and/or a couple t-shirts.
