R.I.P Trayvon

[dayman]

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

i can provide tons of medical source and im currently in nursing school, so i know how the human body works. I can easily call my brother and friends who are doctors to support my statement, too. You wont get paralyzed by banging your head against the floor, but u can easily get hemorrhage and die. I banged my head once against a wall and I got mini seizure. I dont think you know how dangerous what TM was doing to GZ, so you're taking it so lightly.

i seen the pcitures and i aint see all of that what u talking about.  none of that MMA stuff says he was going to kill GZ or maim him in any kind of way.  and if its as bad as all that, was GZ about to lose consciousness?  he was on the verge of blacking out?  did he coherently go for his gun or was it punch drunk reflex?  Why did GZ not deem it necessary to fight back at all, not throw not one punch or anything?  I dont think it was ever definitely proven who was screaming for help either.

According to the trial, TM attacked GZ first. GZ probably did not expect the punch and as we all know, a good punch can knock someone down.

I'm not sure if you have been in a fight, but when you are hit in the face, you lose your balance and coordination. Again, according to the trial, while TM was on top of GZ banging his head against the floor, GZ had his hands on his back reaching for his gun. Imagine getting your head repeatedly smashed against the floor....u think u can simply over power someone? GZ also stated TM said he was going to die. If someone was on top of me, banging my head against the floor, losing my coordination, and the guy told me I was going to die, I am def going to reach for my gun, too. It's either me or him.

 

[dayman]

Damn dudes in here really trying to throw dirt on Trayvon's name. You have to remember he was a 17 year old male. When we were that age many of us liked to get into scraps, be tough guys, we all assume the bad boy image at one point, most of us smoked a little herb, drank a little, played with knives, got caught stealing/cheating. Boys will be boys.

Not every teenager is a saint. It's not completely abnormal to do the things that Trayvon is accused of. People are reaching hard after the fact. You can predict behavior B off of behavior A. It's a lot more complex.

100% agree and who knows...what TM was 25 and more mature. Would he have attacked GZ? Would he have just got up after throwing a couple punches towards GZ? Would he have just tried to work things out verbally?

It sucks that TM had to die, but his young age and aggression led him to his death.

 

[heliumclinton]

Also keep in mind that burglary tools were found in TM's school locker. I'm not saying TM was the one robbing houses, but it's a possibility

Trying to understand what this has to do anything? Didn't Trayvon go to school in Miami? He didn't even live with his father he was visiting. Plus wth does something in his locker have to do with that night?

 

[harlemtothebronx]

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

i can provide tons of medical source and im currently in nursing school, so i know how the human body works. I can easily call my brother and friends who are doctors to support my statement, too. You wont get paralyzed by banging your head against the floor, but u can easily get hemorrhage and die. I banged my head once against a wall and I got mini seizure. I dont think you know how dangerous what TM was doing to GZ, so you're taking it so lightly.

i should have wrote 'trained in mma fighting'....my bad lol

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[dayman]

GZ was very lucky nothing critical happened to him with those attacks

 

[dayman]

Also keep in mind that burglary tools were found in TM's school locker. I'm not saying TM was the one robbing houses, but it's a possibility

Trying to understand what this has to do anything? Didn't Trayvon go to school in Miami? He didn't even live with his father he was visiting. Plus wth does something in his locker have to do with that night?

those burglary tools was just to say that TM was not a media-portrayed saint after all.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Trayvon Martin was trained in MMA? Since when?

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Also keep in mind that burglary tools were found in TM's school locker. I'm not saying TM was the one robbing houses, but it's a possibility

Trying to understand what this has to do anything? Didn't Trayvon go to school in Miami? He didn't even live with his father he was visiting. Plus wth does something in his locker have to do with that night?

those burglary tools was just to say that TM was not a media-portrayed saint after all.

What were the 'burglary tools exactly?'

 

[dayman]

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

i can provide tons of medical source and im currently in nursing school, so i know how the human body works. I can easily call my brother and friends who are doctors to support my statement, too. You wont get paralyzed by banging your head against the floor, but u can easily get hemorrhage and die. I banged my head once against a wall and I got mini seizure. I dont think you know how dangerous what TM was doing to GZ, so you're taking it so lightly.

i should have wrote 'trained in mma fighting'....my bad lol

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i corrected my statement.

 

[dayman]

Also keep in mind that burglary tools were found in TM's school locker. I'm not saying TM was the one robbing houses, but it's a possibility

Trying to understand what this has to do anything? Didn't Trayvon go to school in Miami? He didn't even live with his father he was visiting. Plus wth does something in his locker have to do with that night?

those burglary tools was just to say that TM was not a media-portrayed saint after all.

What were the 'burglary tools exactly?'

screwdriver was found in his locker along with multiple female jewelry

im not saying he was the one robbing the houses in the gated community. So dont twist my words around

 

[dayman]

Trayvon Martin was trained in MMA? Since when?

i dont know when he started training...can u find out?

 

[sundoobie]

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

@ how Fox News was able to manipulate you to spew this nonsense on here.

Zimmerman had a GUN... did you forget that part? If you have a gun, you're ready to draw at any moment especially in the dark, especially when you are confronting a possible burglar! Zimmerman didn't have injuries to his hands or knuckles because he wasn't fighting back, he was reaching for his gun from the moment of the confrontation. How do we know TM wasn't defending himself from a stalker with a gun whom eventually shot him to death?

And you're talking about these little scratches that you said were life threatening injuries?

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Obviously you have never knuckled up before!

"The individual who examined him and treated Mr. Zimmerman told him sutures were not required," Rao said. "She put a BandAid on each of them, and that was the extent of the treatment."

"If someone's head is repeatedly slammed against against concrete with great force I would expect lacerations, a lot of injuries that would bleed profusely that would necessitate suturing, so I don't see that in this picture," Rao said.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Also keep in mind that burglary tools were found in TM's school locker. I'm not saying TM was the one robbing houses, but it's a possibility

Trying to understand what this has to do anything? Didn't Trayvon go to school in Miami? He didn't even live with his father he was visiting. Plus wth does something in his locker have to do with that night?

those burglary tools was just to say that TM was not a media-portrayed saint after all.

What were the 'burglary tools exactly?'

screwdriver was found in his locker along with multiple female jewelry
im not saying he was the one robbing the houses in the gated community. So dont twist my words around

I'm not, just trying to get past the sensational wording and to the actual objects that were found.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

This thread is still open.

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

People still believing that BS.

 

[dayman]

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

@ how Fox News was able to manipulate you to spew this nonsense on here.

Zimmerman had a GUN... did you forget that part? If you have a gun, you're ready to draw at any moment especially in the dark, especially when you are confronting a possible burglar! Zimmerman didn't have injuries to his hands or knuckles because he wasn't fighting back, he was reaching for his gun from the moment of the confrontation. How do we know TM wasn't defending himself from a stalker with a gun whom eventually shot him to death?

And you're talking about these little scratches that you said were life threatening injuries?

Obviously you have never knuckled up before!

"The individual who examined him and treated Mr. Zimmerman told him sutures were not required," Rao said. "She put a BandAid on each of them, and that was the extent of the treatment."

"If someone's head is repeatedly slammed against against concrete with great force I would expect lacerations, a lot of injuries that would bleed profusely that would necessitate suturing, so I don't see that in this picture," Rao said.

and a new challenger appears. not gonna start with this guy lol if u wanna join the convo, then read my previous replies in this thread. if not, dont bother debating with me.

and FYI, i've been in fights (not lately..too old for that nonsense) but i never had my head banged against the floor during a fight.

 

[dayman]

Also keep in mind that burglary tools were found in TM's school locker. I'm not saying TM was the one robbing houses, but it's a possibility

Trying to understand what this has to do anything? Didn't Trayvon go to school in Miami? He didn't even live with his father he was visiting. Plus wth does something in his locker have to do with that night?

those burglary tools was just to say that TM was not a media-portrayed saint after all.

What were the 'burglary tools exactly?'

screwdriver was found in his locker along with multiple female jewelry
im not saying he was the one robbing the houses in the gated community. So dont twist my words around

I'm not, just trying to get past the sensational wording and to the actual objects that were found.

ok well i never said he robbed houses....just that it was a possibility

 

[gllahone84]

Screwdriver man...

 

[harlemtothebronx]

This thread is still open.

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

People still believing that BS.

Mods gotta be doing this on purpose.

 

[dayman]

This thread is still open.

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

People still believing that BS.

What's BS?

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Screwdriver man...

Burglar tools*

 

[dayman]

Screwdriver man...

lol a screwdriver is like a must have for all burglars

 

[gllahone84]

This thread has probably caused more division between NTers than any thread in the history of NT...

Dudes I use to rock with got blocked over this....

 

[dayman]

This thread is still open.

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

People still believing that BS.

Mods gotta be doing this on purpose.

it's a good debate...no racial slurs or personal attacks are being thrown at each other

we're not even making it a white vs black issue. We jsut have our own opinions about the case regarding whether it was a self defense case or not and the backgrounds of each individuals.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

This thread is still open.

TM was a trained MMA fighter with a violent mindset when it comes to fighting. He said he wanted a rematch with a fighter because he did not bleed enough. Imagine that mindset along with the aggression he got from GZ. TM was ground and pounding GZ and banging his head against the concrete floor, while GZ was yelling for help. You can very EASILY kill someone by maliciously banging their head against the floor. Have you seen the cuts on the back of GZ's head?

People still believing that BS.

What's BS?

Everything you typed.

Screwdriver man...

Burglar tools*

"It's a possibility"

 

[dayman]

This thread has probably caused more division between NTers than any thread in the history of NT...

Dudes I use to rock with got blocked over this....

u blocked them over this?