Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[tay1]

Do you have an actual answer to my question?

Performing does not equal c***ing

And the two situations aren't even comparable. One is auditioning for a job through a structured process. Bobby was putting on his best "look at what Iz can do suhh" routine to get signed. He had the record of the summer, they were going to sign him. He didn't need to go through with all the extras. He was there tryna impress hard and he looked goofy doing so

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Only valid reasoning is Bobby was real young and he didn't understand the undertones of that. Anything else just sounds silly.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Performing does not equal c***ing

And the two situations aren't even comparable. One is auditioning for a job through a structured process. Bobby was putting on his best "look at what Iz can do suhh" routine to get signed. He had the record of the summer, they were going to sign him. He didn't need to go through with all the extras. He was there tryna impress hard and he looked goody doing so

I never once said he wasn't ****ing. There's not a single line of text of me saying he wasn't. I'm not sure why you keep trying to debate me about WHAT'S taking place. I agree with you. I simply asked...what's the DIFFERENCE between what's taking place in a board room in front of his "massa" and what's taking place when he's doing it in a music video perpetuating the SAME negative images that make you "cringe" ? Again...is this all only entertainment or not?

Rapping and dancing about gang violence in an office of white people (and a black label head at the time) = cringeworthy
Rapping and dancing about gang violence amongst his own in a music video = who cares if the beat hard. it's entertainment.




21 Savage shoots 21 ****** in the first verse = fire.
line about jew money = cringeworthy

Does "our" image only matter when juxtaposed against how "they" see "us"? Shouldn't it matter amongst "us" just as much?

Also, please enlighten me on this structured process you speak of. If you're telling me that artists performing in front of execs is not commonplace...that's news to me. I'm sure @str8drop and @illphillip can speak to this. From what I know...it is. What Bobby did in that room is the same thing that most of the ****** being posted in here every day did. When you see unsigned artists post pictures of their visits to major labels and streaming giants...you think them ****** are going in there to show execs a powerpoint presentation or something? How do you know "what he had to do" as far his business goes?

Donald Glover did an episode of television about this. Kanye West performed at the Facebook office.

 

[tay1]

Now he's just thottin it up

 

[TipsyMcStagga]

Mannn fat boy SPAZZED on this

 

[Figured it out]

Still....... free Bobby

 

[6 Rings G.O.A.T.]

 

[doxen5703]

Mannn fat boy SPAZZED on this

ONLY FAT ***** IN THE SAUNA WITH JEWELS.

 

[wavycrocket]

I never once said he wasn't ****ing. There's not a single line of text of me saying he wasn't. I'm not sure why you keep trying to debate me about WHAT'S taking place. I agree with you. I simply asked...what's the DIFFERENCE between what's taking place in a board room in front of his "massa" and what's taking place when he's doing it in a music video perpetuating the SAME negative images that make you "cringe" ? Again...is this all only entertainment or not?

Rapping and dancing about gang violence in an office of white people (and a black label head at the time) = cringeworthy
Rapping and dancing about gang violence amongst his own in a music video = who cares if the beat hard. it's entertainment.




21 Savage shoots 21 *****s in the first verse = fire.
line about jew money = cringeworthy

Does "our" image only matter when juxtaposed against how "they" see "us"? Shouldn't it matter amongst "us" just as much?

Also, please enlighten me on this structured process you speak of. If you're telling me that artists performing in front of execs is not commonplace...that's news to me. I'm sure @str8drop and @illphillip can speak to this. From what I know...it is. What Bobby did in that room is the same thing that most of the *****s being posted in here every day did. When you see unsigned artists post pictures of their visits to major labels and streaming giants...you think them *****s are going in there to show execs a powerpoint presentation or something? How do you know "what he had to do" as far his business goes?

Donald Glover did an episode of television about this. Kanye West performed at the Facebook office.

Crazy. I had the exact same line of thinking rewatching that. Conflicted of course. But props to you for putting it in words

 

[wavycrocket]

Was watching the Pull Up....and Joe & CTG pointed out how the Good Music albums didn’t have any visuals.

Like, Daytona ain’t have any videos for real
Other than if you know you know. Never really noticed that.

 

[JRaW’d]

They didn’t release with vids but a few did surface outta that run.

Nas JUST released some sorta video with some songs/verses from the album.

Teyanna recently released a vid too.

They do all seem like afterthoughts tho.

Artist should think twice before signing to ye. That whole run of albums was handled poorly on so many levels. **** was doomed from the start.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Ain't know this had a video

 

[Magic33]

Was watching the Pull Up....and Joe & CTG pointed out how the Good Music albums didn’t have any visuals.

Like, Daytona ain’t have any videos for real
Other than if you know you know. Never really noticed that.

I'd really like to know the budgets for those albums. It seems like Kanye and Def Jam got over.

 

[6pac]

something bout this old crazy auntie *** ***** so sexy to me

 

[Xennial]

Charlamagne and Budden both agreed Khaled is the biggest finesser in hip hop, it really comes down to Khaled or French

 

[2163O1baller90]

French was a hustler from day 1

 

[ahat]

Akhi

 

[doxen5703]

Dave East verse on We Got Everything is top 10 this year to me.

 

[Proposition Joe]

 

[Maximus Meridius]

And she still gotta spilt that with other song creators.

 

[tomdiginson]

I'd really like to know the budgets for those albums. It seems like Kanye and Def Jam got over.

Kanye Tricked off the budget on all the producers and strange locations they were working out of.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

I was searching like hell for this

 

[ahat]

My heart so cold I could put it in my cup

 

[tay1]

I never once said he wasn't ****ing. There's not a single line of text of me saying he wasn't. I'm not sure why you keep trying to debate me about WHAT'S taking place. I agree with you. I simply asked...what's the DIFFERENCE between what's taking place in a board room in front of his "massa" and what's taking place when he's doing it in a music video perpetuating the SAME negative images that make you "cringe" ? Again...is this all only entertainment or not?

I answered your first question the way I did because your original question was unclear to begin with. You elaborated here in ways you didn't do so in the first question.

And I find it hard to believe you can't understand the difference in the two scenarios you painting. You seem to be focusing on content and image, while everybody else is solely focusing on the image of dude shucking and jiving to get a deal. The difference between what he's doing in there than what he's doing in his own music video is he's simpy vibing to his own track instead of skinnin and grinnin to get a deal in front of execs. Big difference. Again "Look massa at what Iz can do"

Rapping and dancing about gang violence in an office of white people (and a black label head at the time) = cringeworthy
Rapping and dancing about gang violence amongst his own in a music video = who cares if the beat hard. it's entertainment.




21 Savage shoots 21 *****s in the first verse = fire.
line about jew money = cringeworthy

Does "our" image only matter when juxtaposed against how "they" see "us"? Shouldn't it matter amongst "us" just as much?

Again nobody was focused on content. But if you are, then I'll tackle it. Nobody fully supports anyone rapping, glorifying and promote gang violence or shooting but its apart of the lives of many of these dudes that come into rap. It's reality. This is what separates rap from other genres. It's the music from the streets. If we want to be all moral with it then 90% of rap shouldn't exist, but unfortunately this is the life many of these dudes live, and Bobby and GS9 were about that life, so to me, there's no problem with them rapping about what they were living, despite what it portrays. If we want to pick and choose what dudes should rap about according to what should and shouldn't be portrayed, then rap will cease to exist. I don't support all the killing and gun talk in rap, but its reality and I'm not gon be mad about dudes rapping about their lives even if its done in the wrong manner.

Also, please enlighten me on this structured process you speak of. If you're telling me that artists performing in front of execs is not commonplace...that's news to me. I'm sure @str8drop and @illphillip can speak to this. From what I know...it is. What Bobby did in that room is the same thing that most of the *****s being posted in here every day did. When you see unsigned artists post pictures of their visits to major labels and streaming giants...you think them *****s are going in there to show execs a powerpoint presentation or something? How do you know "what he had to do" as far his business goes?

Donald Glover did an episode of television about this. Kanye West performed at the Facebook office.

I was referring to the structured process of an acting audition which is the conparison you made . You come in and read a script. There's no need for the level of extraness that Bobby portrayed. Again that is the focus. Bobby looking goofy for the deal. Nobody is simply complaining about performing in front of execs. Its the over the top antics that made Bobby look goofy and we all know it.

 

[nawghtyhare]

And she still gotta spilt that with other song creators.

streaming is convenient
but so trash