Scientists to Unveil Proof of 'God Particle' (Article) (Link) (PRETTY DAMN INTERESTING)

[veintisiete]

Saw this on a few other forums I visit, you may have already as well.

This is huge news guys. +1 for science!

And  no, in NO WAY does this article imply that there is proof of God. Just so there are no confusions.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/scientists-unveil-proof-god-particle-165431909.html   

This is as big as the, well, big bang theory: Scientists working at the world's largest atom smasher say they have enough evidence of the long-sought-after Higgs boson.

To the layman, the Higgs boson is the "God particle" and a key puzzle piece in the scientific explanation of the origin of the universe. Physicists around the globe—and perhaps elsewhere, given the size of the universe—have invested billions of dollars in research and have been hunting for the Higgs boson for decades.

Researchers at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (or CERN) are expected to announce Wednesday that they have proof of its existence, reports The Associated Press.

The Higgs boson appeared 13.7 billion years ago in the chaos of the Big Bang and turned the flying debris into galaxies, stars and planets.

Its formal discovery, according to a broad scientific consensus, would be the greatest advance in knowledge of the universe in decades and a key to confirming the standard model of physics that explains what gives mass to matter and, by extension, how the universe was formed, according to the AP.

Rutgers University physicist Matt Strassler told Reuters that without the particle, "nothing like human beings, or the earth we live on, could exist."

Physicist Joseph Lykken of the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory near Chicago explained in an interview with National Public Radio the difficulty for physicists in tracking down Higgs boson.

"We think the Higgs boson is a manifestation of the fact that the universe is filled with a force that we haven't been able to detect yet that gives other particles mass," Lykken told NPR. "It exists for a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a second, or something like that, and then falls apart into other particles."

Thus, scientists are in a bit of a quagmire, according to the AP. While they appear to have enough evidence to report the existence of the "God particle," they still hedge on whether to report "a discovery." It's a fine line, indeed, but one that scientists will likely continue to debate.

"I agree that any reasonable outside observer would say, 'It looks like a discovery,'" British theoretical physicist John Ellis, a professor at King's College London who has worked at CERN since the 1970s, told The Associated Press. "We've discovered something which is consistent with being a Higgs."

Oh those wacky scientists.

 

[goldenchild9]

lol

 

[jaehow]

this frightens the hell out of me.

 

[c hanna]

after taking a physics class i am astonished at how smart these damn physicists are.
I personally think theyre the true geniuses of the world

 

[kix4kix]

R.i.p

 

[elcatfisho]

"oh those wacky scientists" Jeff Stacklin is quite the one-upper for a journalist. 

Anyway, July 4th will be a grand day for physics enthusiasts who've been VERY interested in finding this out for years. I'm excited to see what use this information will have in the future.

 

[shogun]

Isn't this similar to the thing that happened in "Angels & Demons"?  They were able to duplicate the Big Bang with the same equipment.

 

[odog24]

sillyputty would have a field day with this...

im glad that we as a civilization are advancing now only if we can put more resources into science and less into military spending we can finally get some hoverboards

 

[ricky409]

Read about the god particle a few years ago...

Its finally coming tl fruition!

#freeSillyPutty

 

[veintisiete]

guess this went over alot of people's heads

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

Angels & Demons

 

[wr]

people more interested in fireworks shows than the actual source of the fire...

 

[Renaldo Balkman]

Originally Posted by VeintiSiete

guess this went over alot of people's heads

this... I thought the religious heads would be up and arms by now

 

[niketalker23]

Science might as well be a religion. To believe the whole universe expanding from nothing is just as hard to believe as there being one being responsible for creating everything. Scientists are just like priests. They both claim to know the origin of the universe. 99% of population will believe one or the other and that same 99% will nether be able to prove or disprove their theory themselves. They just take the scientist's and priets' word for it. 

 

[ryda421]

p4l

 

[dt43]

It's not the "God particle", it's the Higgs boson. And yes, very interesting stuff.

My soph year physics professor was involved with the research for years, I remember he would always fly to Switzerland for weeks and leave his crappy FOB TA to teach the class. Dude is probably wet right now.

 

[elcatfisho]

Originally Posted by DT43

It's not the "God particle", it's the Higgs boson. And yes, very interesting stuff.

My soph year physics professor was involved with the research for years, I remember he would always fly to Switzerland for weeks and leave his crappy FOB TA to teach the class. Dude is probably wet right now.

this happens at every university across the country, your experience is not alone.

 

[g14]

ITS TIME!!!....OPEN UP THE DIMENSION :floats in ufo:

 

[milestailsprowe]

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Science might as well be a religion. To believe the whole universe expanding from nothing is just as hard to believe as there being one being responsible for creating everything. Scientists are just like priests. They both claim to know the origin of the universe. 99% of population will believe one or the other and that same 99% will nether be able to prove or disprove their theory themselves. They just take the scientist's and priets' word for it. 

I see is no why it shown't be. Science has given abilities gaining on to the powers of God himself. Time will tell what comes of these Particles. 

 

[pleasurephd]

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Science might as well be a religion. To believe the whole universe expanding from nothing is just as hard to believe as there being one being responsible for creating everything. Scientists are just like priests. They both claim to know the origin of the universe. 99% of population will believe one or the other and that same 99% will nether be able to prove or disprove their theory themselves. They just take the scientist's and priets' word for it. 

So wrong. So so wrong.

&

Science as a BODY OF KNOWLEDGE which is always being built upon, improved, tested, etc... is NOT the same as an organization in which one or a few individuals ideas/thought that are considered as an ABSOLUTE are used to manipulate people into following and acting in certain ways which are either morally wrong or right. Science doesn't force you to do anything. It's just there as knowledge. It CAN NOT manipulate or cause malice. Unlike religion which can and has been used to manipulate and cause people to act in malicious ways. Don't get me wrong science information and knowledge can be used TO manipulate or be used IN malicious ways, but this is due to people desiring to use the information in these ways (sometimes even due to religion). But the information itself doesn't contain any pernicious base.

People act like science is a thing, an entity, a book or writings, or a group of people. When will they understand that SCIENCE is just a body of knowledge built upon by MANY different fields of study which all compliment each other. This is why it is NOT a religion and CAN NOT be compared to a religion. It doesn't take blind faith and it is not an absolute. It takes evidence and testing. And NO true scientist would EVER claim to know the origins of the universe. It is currently untestable and there for that claim can not be scientifically made as a theory or even a hypothesis, at this point. In time though. In time. The Higgs discovery would be a step in the right direction.

Anyway.

This will mean nothing to believers. Even if the new news on Wednesday is that they truly have a "new discovery" (by definition of discovery when it comes to this field of physics, with sufficient confidence) of the Higgs.

First off most people don't even know what that would mean.

Secondly, believers would come up with something out of either *** to refute it or show it's inability to still fully answer the question of the beginning, ignoring how it would completely crush all that is believed in the organized religions.

Lastly, most believers would just be on that Prometheus tip, not even giving a damb and still believing.

 

[1c3m4m]

dude said billionth of a billionth of a dam second or something like that

 

[ballahb]

Originally Posted by Jaehow

this frightens the hell out of me.

OFT

 

[blackxme]

Originally Posted by PleasurePhD

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Science might as well be a religion. To believe the whole universe expanding from nothing is just as hard to believe as there being one being responsible for creating everything. Scientists are just like priests. They both claim to know the origin of the universe. 99% of population will believe one or the other and that same 99% will nether be able to prove or disprove their theory themselves. They just take the scientist's and priets' word for it. 

So wrong. So so wrong.

&

Science as a BODY OF KNOWLEDGE which is always being built upon, improved, tested, etc... is NOT the same as an organization in which one or a few individuals ideas/thought that are considered as an ABSOLUTE are used to manipulate people into following and acting in certain ways which are either morally wrong or right. Science doesn't force you to do anything. It's just there as knowledge. It CAN NOT manipulate or cause malice. Unlike religion which can and has been used to manipulate and cause people to act in malicious ways. Don't get me wrong science information and knowledge can be used TO manipulate or be used IN malicious ways, but this is due to people desiring to use the information in these ways (sometimes even due to religion). But the information itself doesn't contain any pernicious base.

People act like science is a thing, an entity, a book or writings, or a group of people. When will they understand that SCIENCE is just a body of knowledge built upon by MANY different fields of study which all compliment each other. This is why it is NOT a religion and CAN NOT be compared to a religion. It doesn't take blind faith and it is not an absolute. It takes evidence and testing. And NO true scientist would EVER claim to know the origins of the universe. It is currently untestable and there for that claim can not be scientifically made as a theory or even a hypothesis, at this point. In time though. In time. The Higgs discovery would be a step in the right direction.

Anyway.

This will mean nothing to believers. Even if the new news on Wednesday is that they truly have a "new discovery" (by definition of discovery when it comes to this field of physics, with sufficient confidence) of the Higgs.

First off most people don't even know what that would mean.

Secondly, believers would come up with something out of either *** to refute it or show it's inability to still fully answer the question of the beginning, ignoring how it would completely crush all that is believed in the organized religions.

Lastly, most believers would just be on that Prometheus tip, not even giving a damb and still believing.

Pretty much what I wanted to say.

I can't believe that people actually believe science is a religion.

 

[b smooth 202]

there is nothing to talk about

*$$#%$!@!!#$$ dont ever try and understand anything..all they want to do is further an argument....there is no argument at all!

 

[flacobey]

Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks

Angels & Demons